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 edlowe wrote:
Im pretty sure now that I've seen that rune before, maybe in the old realm of chaos book in the dark tongue rune page? Or maybe the old beastmen book.

slaanesh was the weakest god so he fused/or/joined with the horned god to become something entirely new and stronger...sex with rats is the new theme.

Seeing as daemons are the same in both games, if they remove Slaanesh what would that mean for 40k?

I won't miss slaanesh, not one bit.

GW lacked the subtlety to do Slaanesh properly, instead going for your average 10 year old's idea of "naughty things."

Even Tzeentch, who gets shoved to the bottom constantly, has better development, execution and intrigue surrounding him.

It doesn't help some of Slaanesh's descriptions can come off as somewhat transphobic (not trying to start a huge debate, I don't personally think Slaanesh is transphobic but I see how others could).


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 ImAGeek wrote:
Seeing as daemons are the same in both games, if they remove Slaanesh what would that mean for 40k?

Seeing as Eidolon (EC HQ) is going to be released soon, I doubt it. Most people are theorizing that (s)he is being eliminated purely from Fanatasy due to the new "kid-friendly" direction AoS is hurtling at bone shattering speeds towards.

bitethythumb wrote:

 edlowe wrote:
Im pretty sure now that I've seen that rune before, maybe in the old realm of chaos book in the dark tongue rune page? Or maybe the old beastmen book.

slaanesh was the weakest god so he fused/or/joined with the horned god to become something entirely new and stronger...sex with rats is the new theme.

Sex with scheming, diseased, warmongering rats that is. Ultimately, there can only be one

Wonderwolf wrote:

bitethythumb wrote:

 edlowe wrote:
Im pretty sure now that I've seen that rune before, maybe in the old realm of chaos book in the dark tongue rune page? Or maybe the old beastmen book.

slaanesh was the weakest god so he fused/or/joined with the horned god to become something entirely new and stronger...sex with rats is the new theme.

Sex with scheming, diseased, warmongering rats that is. Ultimately, there can only be one

its a perfect fit for slaanesh, plus the Verminlord with boobies would rock...

 Manchu wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
Can a moderator change the title of OP?

Feel free to suggest an extremely concise alternative.

Well I wasn't expecting a moderator to be smart aleck over a simple request..

This post title is super misleading. Its basically like Slaanesh is being removed from the game entirely. A retcon implies all traces of the character are gone, histories, events, everything regarding them. This is far from a retcon, we even have leak evidence to the contrary now. All I asked is if it could be changed to avoid the annoying knee jerk reactions we're already seeing a lot of. There was no reason for an attitude, its not like i demanded it or put in a report.

This thread is already toxic without feeding into the frenzy of people thinking AOS is the end of existence for everything moreso than it already is.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Seeing as daemons are the same in both games, if they remove Slaanesh what would that mean for 40k?

I'm pretty sure that slannesh is not being removed that fact that he gets named in the new fluff as being captured, not destroyed, lead me to expect that he's going to be a big part of the narrative in the upcoming first book. I think he may play a different role in the storyline going forward, which could be interesting, and maybe lead to a new direction for him and the other gods. I think we've already seen some development for the chaos gods, I dont remember the canibal side of khorne workship being such a big thing as it appears in the new khornate faction, maybe they'll revamp slaaneshy faction in the same way.

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
I won't miss slaanesh, not one bit.

GW lacked the subtlety to do Slaanesh properly, instead going for your average 10 year old's idea of "naughty things."

Even Tzeentch, who gets shoved to the bottom constantly, has better development, execution and intrigue surrounding him.

It doesn't help some of Slaanesh's descriptions can come off as somewhat transphobic (not trying to start a huge debate, I don't personally think Slaanesh is transphobic but I see how others could).


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 ImAGeek wrote:
Seeing as daemons are the same in both games, if they remove Slaanesh what would that mean for 40k?

Seeing as Eidolon (EC HQ) is going to be released soon, I doubt it. Most people are theorizing that (s)he is being eliminated purely from Fanatasy due to the new "kid-friendly" direction AoS is hurtling at bone shattering speeds towards.

I almost want to say I wouldn't miss Slaanesh in fantasy much as well. (I would miss it in 40k however, a lot of it due to the Emperor's Children etc). I definitely will miss the idea of what Slaanesh could have been if GW had done things right. But Slaanesh as he/she is right now in fantasy doesn't interest me one bit. Hopefully GW does something more interesting with Slaanesh this time around, in terms of both fluff and models. I'm hoping Slaanesh doesn't merge with anything Skaven related though, the two just don't go together well. But anything involving Morathi/Malekith could work...or going under some kind of transformation into something that allows for better models.

Where is it stated that Slaanesh is imprisoned? I'm trying to remember how Morathi's interaction with Slaanesh in the Vortex played out in Khaine but I'm drawing a bit of a blank.

Also the graphic descriptions of Khornate cannibalism in the novel seems like kid friendly isn't the first priority.

 Eldarain wrote:
Where is it stated that Slaanesh is imprisoned? I'm trying to remember how Morathi's interaction with Slaanesh in the Vortex played out in Khaine but I'm drawing a bit of a blank.

Also the graphic descriptions of Khornate cannibalism in the novel seems like kid friendly isn't the first priority.

This leak from 4chan, where we've gotten basically every other WD and "rulebook" leak to date.

http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1436344267191.jpg

And that's my take, people are screaming KID FRIENDLY, which makes me laugh.

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
Can a moderator change the title of OP?

Feel free to suggest an extremely concise alternative.

Well I wasn't expecting a moderator to be smart aleck over a simple request..

This post title is super misleading. Its basically like Slaanesh is being removed from the game entirely. A retcon implies all traces of the character are gone, histories, events, everything regarding them. This is far from a retcon, we even have leak evidence to the contrary now. All I asked is if it could be changed to avoid the annoying knee jerk reactions we're already seeing a lot of. There was no reason for an attitude, its not like i demanded it or put in a report.

This thread is already toxic without feeding into the frenzy of people thinking AOS is the end of existence for everything moreso than it already is.

That was a smart-ass, toxic response now? And there it just struck me as: give me something short and sweet to fit into the subject heading. Wow.

 Thargrim wrote:

 Bronzefists42 wrote:
I won't miss slaanesh, not one bit.

GW lacked the subtlety to do Slaanesh properly, instead going for your average 10 year old's idea of "naughty things."

Even Tzeentch, who gets shoved to the bottom constantly, has better development, execution and intrigue surrounding him.

It doesn't help some of Slaanesh's descriptions can come off as somewhat transphobic (not trying to start a huge debate, I don't personally think Slaanesh is transphobic but I see how others could).


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 ImAGeek wrote:
Seeing as daemons are the same in both games, if they remove Slaanesh what would that mean for 40k?

Seeing as Eidolon (EC HQ) is going to be released soon, I doubt it. Most people are theorizing that (s)he is being eliminated purely from Fanatasy due to the new "kid-friendly" direction AoS is hurtling at bone shattering speeds towards.

I almost want to say I wouldn't miss Slaanesh in fantasy much as well. (I would miss it in 40k however, a lot of it due to the Emperor's Children etc). I definitely will miss the idea of what Slaanesh could have been if GW had done things right. But Slaanesh as he/she is right now in fantasy doesn't interest me one bit. Hopefully GW does something more interesting with Slaanesh this time around, in terms of both fluff and models. I'm hoping Slaanesh doesn't merge with anything Skaven related though, the two just don't go together well. But anything involving Morathi/Malekith could work...or going under some kind of transformation into something that allows for better models.

they kinda do if you ask me... slaanesh at its purest is excess... correct? using deception, attacking the weak, lying, cheating, using too much risk (like overdosing) that is pretty much skaven (and rats and excess kinda go together, I mean they eat each other, overeat, kill, constantly fight, they have short lives and therefore live the largest way possible, slaanesh is all about that, living fast, dying faster, rat like)... plus slaanesh was the "weakest" of the gods, maybe joining with the rat man gave him a needed boost... and it would give skaven a new thing to roll with, rat men high on chaos dust fighting with boobies out.

 Torga_DW wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
Can a moderator change the title of OP?

Feel free to suggest an extremely concise alternative.

Well I wasn't expecting a moderator to be smart aleck over a simple request..

This post title is super misleading. Its basically like Slaanesh is being removed from the game entirely. A retcon implies all traces of the character are gone, histories, events, everything regarding them. This is far from a retcon, we even have leak evidence to the contrary now. All I asked is if it could be changed to avoid the annoying knee jerk reactions we're already seeing a lot of. There was no reason for an attitude, its not like i demanded it or put in a report.

This thread is already toxic without feeding into the frenzy of people thinking AOS is the end of existence for everything moreso than it already is.

That was a smart-ass, toxic response now? And there it just struck me as: give me something short and sweet to fit into the subject heading. Wow.

The italicized extremely concise bit. It seemed like he was just implying requesting a better title was a waste of his time and stupid to do.

if I was wrong, I apologize, but that definitely is what it came off as.

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
Where is it stated that Slaanesh is imprisoned? I'm trying to remember how Morathi's interaction with Slaanesh in the Vortex played out in Khaine but I'm drawing a bit of a blank.

Also the graphic descriptions of Khornate cannibalism in the novel seems like kid friendly isn't the first priority.

This leak from 4chan, where we've gotten basically every other WD and "rulebook" leak to date.

http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1436344267191.jpg

And that's my take, people are screaming KID FRIENDLY, which makes me laugh.

The quote doesn't actually say that they were successful

 edlowe wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
Where is it stated that Slaanesh is imprisoned? I'm trying to remember how Morathi's interaction with Slaanesh in the Vortex played out in Khaine but I'm drawing a bit of a blank.

Also the graphic descriptions of Khornate cannibalism in the novel seems like kid friendly isn't the first priority.

This leak from 4chan, where we've gotten basically every other WD and "rulebook" leak to date.

http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1436344267191.jpg

And that's my take, people are screaming KID FRIENDLY, which makes me laugh.

The quote doesn't actually say that they were successful

That's true, I hadn't really considered that.

I think we can connect the dots of "missing Slaanesh icon" and "attempt to capture him" by Sigmar's followers. It could be possible he died in the encounter though which would change things.

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Torga_DW wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
Can a moderator change the title of OP?

Feel free to suggest an extremely concise alternative.

Well I wasn't expecting a moderator to be smart aleck over a simple request..

This post title is super misleading. Its basically like Slaanesh is being removed from the game entirely. A retcon implies all traces of the character are gone, histories, events, everything regarding them. This is far from a retcon, we even have leak evidence to the contrary now. All I asked is if it could be changed to avoid the annoying knee jerk reactions we're already seeing a lot of. There was no reason for an attitude, its not like i demanded it or put in a report.

This thread is already toxic without feeding into the frenzy of people thinking AOS is the end of existence for everything moreso than it already is.

That was a smart-ass, toxic response now? And there it just struck me as: give me something short and sweet to fit into the subject heading. Wow.

The italicized extremely concise bit. It seemed like he was just implying requesting a better title was a waste of his time and stupid to do.

if I was wrong, I apologize, but that definitely is what it came off as.

I think you may be reading too much into it. There's only so much that can fit into the subject heading before bits start to disappear. I'd probably go with: slaanesh captured!

A month ago, I'd have told you that you were crazy suggesting that Slaanesh would be getting sacked. Now, not so much...

Noooo!. No more PG13 S&M? All is lost!

I'd just say Slaanesh missing instead of retcon'd. Hell for all we know that might just be a revised Slaanesh icon and the 4chan leak is a lie.

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
Can a moderator change the title of OP?

Feel free to suggest an extremely concise alternative.

Well I wasn't expecting a moderator to be smart aleck over a simple request..

That was a perfectly sincere post.

 Manchu wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
Can a moderator change the title of OP?

Feel free to suggest an extremely concise alternative.

Well I wasn't expecting a moderator to be smart aleck over a simple request..

That was a perfectly sincere post.

Than my sincerest apologies, the italicized extremely came off as kinda of jerkish in my misread. Simple miscommunication. I've been dealing with really, really uh, orkish? people all over the internet this morning and I assumed the worst.

Simply "Slaanesh Missing" fits much, much better given the presented information, as a retcon is a completely removal of everything in the backstory and overriding of their existence ever happening.

Also didn't realize it was you because your avatar was different on my phone for some reason or I would've known lol

 Torga_DW wrote:


I think you may be reading too much into it. There's only so much that can fit into the subject heading before bits start to disappear. I'd probably go with: slaanesh captured!

Slaanesh captured by Elves (Ælfs?), no less.

With writers more talented than GW's current lot, I could see some interesting 40K parallels too.

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 edlowe wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
Where is it stated that Slaanesh is imprisoned? I'm trying to remember how Morathi's interaction with Slaanesh in the Vortex played out in Khaine but I'm drawing a bit of a blank.

Also the graphic descriptions of Khornate cannibalism in the novel seems like kid friendly isn't the first priority.

This leak from 4chan, where we've gotten basically every other WD and "rulebook" leak to date.

http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1436344267191.jpg

And that's my take, people are screaming KID FRIENDLY, which makes me laugh.

The quote doesn't actually say that they were successful

That's true, I hadn't really considered that.

I think we can connect the dots of "missing Slaanesh icon" and "attempt to capture him" by Sigmar's followers. It could be possible he died in the encounter though which would change things.

I definitely open to different interpretation, but thats the problem with only have that one line to work with. The next white dwarf is meant to have more details with the tagline 'where is the dark prince?'which implies hes either missing or somewhere you would not expect? Either sounds interesting.

I'm wondering who the improbable allies are and how they managed to invade the realm of chaos?

 edlowe wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 edlowe wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:
Where is it stated that Slaanesh is imprisoned? I'm trying to remember how Morathi's interaction with Slaanesh in the Vortex played out in Khaine but I'm drawing a bit of a blank.

Also the graphic descriptions of Khornate cannibalism in the novel seems like kid friendly isn't the first priority.

This leak from 4chan, where we've gotten basically every other WD and "rulebook" leak to date.

http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1436344267191.jpg

And that's my take, people are screaming KID FRIENDLY, which makes me laugh.

The quote doesn't actually say that they were successful

That's true, I hadn't really considered that.

I think we can connect the dots of "missing Slaanesh icon" and "attempt to capture him" by Sigmar's followers. It could be possible he died in the encounter though which would change things.

I definitely open to different interpretation, but thats the problem with only have that one line to work with. The next white dwarf is meant to have more details with the tagline 'where is the dark prince?'which implies hes either missing or somewhere you would not expect? Either sounds interesting.

I'm wondering who the improbable allies are and how they managed to invade the realm of chaos?

I'm really hoping they bring into the fold some of the other Empire gods, they really all started falling behind in more modern lore and so many of them are cool. It'd be nice to see some of them set up and form factions in the new world.

Wonderwolf wrote:

 Torga_DW wrote:


I think you may be reading too much into it. There's only so much that can fit into the subject heading before bits start to disappear. I'd probably go with: slaanesh captured!

Slaanesh captured by Elves (Ælfs?), no less.

With writers more talented than GW's current lot, I could see some interesting 40K parallels too.

Spoiler:

no, slaanesh censored! edit: by elves!

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
Can a moderator change the title of OP?

Feel free to suggest an extremely concise alternative.

Well I wasn't expecting a moderator to be smart aleck over a simple request..

That was a perfectly sincere post.

Than my sincerest apologies, the italicized extremely came off as kinda of jerkish in my misread. Simple miscommunication. I've been dealing with really, really uh, orkish? people all over the internet this morning and I assumed the worst.

Simply "Slaanesh Missing" fits much, much better given the presented information, as a retcon is a completely removal of everything in the backstory and overriding of their existence ever happening.

Also didn't realize it was you because your avatar was different on my phone for some reason or I would've known lol

I think your understanding of the term retcon is a little off dude. It is simply making a change in an established chronology. It can be something as simple as changing an origin story, or even a name of a character. It doesn't necessarily mean surgically removing the existence of a character.

No worries about miscommunication; I used italics because it really has to be very short considering thread title limitations.

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
"Slaanesh Missing"

This one seems misleading. We don't know if that new symbol stands for Slaanesh or something else. Also, the term "retcon" is a portmanteau of retroactive and continuity; it just means that something previously established has been retroactively changed. It doesn't necessarily mean that the previously established character, fact, event, etc, has been removed. I think I will leave it as it is until we have more info.

Gork and Mork became one?!

 Eggs wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Manchu wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:
Can a moderator change the title of OP?

Feel free to suggest an extremely concise alternative.

Well I wasn't expecting a moderator to be smart aleck over a simple request..

That was a perfectly sincere post.

Than my sincerest apologies, the italicized extremely came off as kinda of jerkish in my misread. Simple miscommunication. I've been dealing with really, really uh, orkish? people all over the internet this morning and I assumed the worst.

Simply "Slaanesh Missing" fits much, much better given the presented information, as a retcon is a completely removal of everything in the backstory and overriding of their existence ever happening.

Also didn't realize it was you because your avatar was different on my phone for some reason or I would've known lol

I think your understanding of the term retcon is a little off dude. It is simply making a change in an established chronology. It can be something as simple as changing an origin story, or even a name of a character. It doesn't necessarily mean surgically removing the existence of a character.

To be fair thsi isn't a retcon as all the past fluff remains, its just a progression of the story line. If they'd changed it so there was never a god called slannesh and instead there was a different fourth god that would be a retcon. This is just a new event going forward. Imho.

Retcon is fine, everyone will know what it means and there's a question mark so it's not as if it's stating Slaanesh is definitely gone.