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2015/07/09 07:07:40
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
Or people could not care about anatomical appendages that half the population shares.. If LIttle Mermaid can have one on their cover then why do we care so much about Warhammer? Our culture is entirely too sexually repressed.
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2015/07/09 07:39:48
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
So in addition to dumbing down gameplay, killing detailed list building, warcraftising the aesthetics, spacemarinising the models and mocking the playerbase, there is a chance that GW might be trying to make it politicaly correct? [points at imaginary Age of Shallow rulebook and laughs the laughter of ridicule mockery scoff and scorn] If that turns out true then I'll start to wonder whether a single thing there was born of a creative spark or rather business decisions all the time.
Btw I told a boardgame crowd yesterday about Arse of Sigmar over a game of ffg starcraft, 4 guys total. I was completly neutral, even started with "you might be interested that...", they voiced their interest in whfb before but seemed to be dicouraged by the amount of work required to put multiple regiments on the table. I went through bullet points, quick rules, no ranked regiments, rules on warscrolls, new world more heroic than gritty etc but when I got to jokey rules (and was again neutral, even laughed when I mentioned talking to a mini because it is funny on paper imo) they all went lol, party game, pathetic, GW gone full slowed etc. Noone interest was sparked because of the new world or story, also only one guy apart from me likes to play cutthroat, the rest are fairly relaxed bunch.
Even my friend whose only gaming is console knows warhammer fantasy and remembers it fondly. You can mention warhammer in a pub and there is a chance that a random chick will know what you're talking about. But no let's change it into loosely related age of sigmar because IP, pg7 and people who cant distinguish between a wargame and a novel asked for the story to go forward because it is so important that the company tells them that this guy did that and is now there doing that instead of what he was doing before.
From the initial Age of Sigmar news thread, when its "feature" list was first confirmed:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
It's like a train wreck. But one made from two circus trains colliding.
A collosal, terrible, flaming, hysterical train wreck with burning clowns running around spraying it with seltzer bottles while ring masters cry out how everything is fine and we should all come in while the dancing elephants lurch around leaving trails of blood behind them.
How could I look away?
2015/07/09 07:49:15
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
Kirasu wrote: Or people could not care about anatomical appendages that half the population shares.. If LIttle Mermaid can have one on their cover then why do we care so much about Warhammer? Our culture is entirely too sexually repressed.
Yeah, but while being anatomically necessary, the doodah is morally evil and needs repression. Literature and the arts are the best place to start, because after all, the penis mightier than the sword.
2015/07/09 07:51:17
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
Retroactive continuity, or retcon for short,[1][2] is the alteration of previously established facts in the continuity of a fictional work.[3]
Its the direct alteration of things that already existed. Slaanesh not existing anymore in the new timeline isn't retroactive, its current changes to the story and current continuity. If they decided to re-attribute something Slaanesh did to someone else than that would be a retcon.
Missing is probably a bad term too, but its directly what we have given the exact leak from WD "The Dark Prince is missing" and a picture of his icon being gone.
I mean I don't care that much, its probably nothing to sit here and argue about. I just don't want to see this thread devolve into more AOS circlejerk bashing on tiny threads of information like it has been for 300 pages and I was afraid people would assume the worst with "retcon".
I think in general I just need to unsubscribe from this thread, its caused me nothing but stress and has led to me jumping at people I probably shouldn't a few too many times now.
Or maybe this "game" deserves every "cirklejerk" bashing it gets. Not to mention that some tiny bits of information turned out being nothing compared to what happened.
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From the initial Age of Sigmar news thread, when its "feature" list was first confirmed:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
It's like a train wreck. But one made from two circus trains colliding.
A collosal, terrible, flaming, hysterical train wreck with burning clowns running around spraying it with seltzer bottles while ring masters cry out how everything is fine and we should all come in while the dancing elephants lurch around leaving trails of blood behind them.
How could I look away?
2015/07/09 08:05:04
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
I've always found it strange that people are fine with things like Khorne who's aim is to kill and maim anything and everything, but the minute boobs are shown on a model everyone freaks out. It's a weird society where games based on just killing things is fine but human anatomy is some weird taboo.
2015/07/09 08:10:20
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Retcon? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
ImAGeek wrote: I've always found it strange that people are fine with things like Khorne who's aim is to kill and maim anything and everything, but the minute boobs are shown on a model everyone freaks out. It's a weird society where games based on just killing things is fine but human anatomy is some weird taboo.
Seems to be an issue more in certain countries than in other countries (like USA or Europe)
I would surely be upset, if slaneesh, would be replaced By PolyCarnus friends call him PC, the chaos god who feeds on the cries of those whom are offended by the slightest thing.
Freedom of speech is one thing. The word penis is another.
Even concidering Western society's questionable standards about sex and violence... if Khorne and Nurgle's stuff were in a live-action movie it'd be rated R in the US. So the occasional boob or phallic thingy shouldn't be an issue. (I mean, more phallic than all the swords and spears and guns and helmets already are.) It's not like GW makes explicit references to sex or uses rape as a plot device, coughgameofthronescough. There's not a whole lot to done down.
That said, "PC" is a stupid term. Don't use it.
2015/07/09 09:04:32
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Retcon? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
number9dream wrote: Went through a dozen slang terms for chuck and didn't find anything worse than it being s derogatory term for white males 40+ years ago..
I guess it's some kind of euphenism but google isn't helping me out so it can't be overly widespread?
Wow, a lot of panic here... Slaanesh is frequently mentioned in the new AoS Chaos books (look for Keywords) so I can't see this as anything else than the logo being replaced for IP reasons.
I wonder if this means that the Slaanesh symbol is going to be replaced in 40K as well... Probably it does.
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In Britain, "chucking" means throwing something ("The Games Workshop chucked thirty years of Warhammer lore in the bin") or vomiting ("When I saw that Warhammer's amazing backstory had been binned off, only to be replaced by a semi-psychotic mess, I chucked up").
So what's going on with the Chaos Gods now?
And why do the GW only ever focus on Khorne and Space Marines? What about people who are interested in the other Warhammer/40K factions? Never mind, here are more Space Marines and another Imperial tank.
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2015/07/09 09:39:12
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
The symbol is similar to the horned rats symbol. The only real difference is the end times horned rat symbol didnt have the circle and instead had two horns with a warpstone joining them. I am inclined to say it is the horned rat. As for slaanesh i would say he/she is enjoying tyrions dungeon and will probably feature in some sort of corruption of tyrion (possibly the elves) at some stage due to exposure to slaanesh. I dont think they will kill slaanesh though, maybe make it a minor god similar to Malal, Hashut and a few others, or imprisoned by the elves. Story line could be something along the lines of tyrions assault on slaanesh reduced his power to almost nothing and now slaanesh has gone to lick its wounds and build power again to hopefully one day return, and thus is no longer one of the big 4 (horned rat taking his place).
Considering that as gods they are manifestations of peoples thoughts/ideas you cant technically kill any of them, only reduce them so much in power that they can barely create a demon.
Not saying its a great story but if they do it properly it would be interesting (and if they dont kill slaanesh but reduce its power you can still technically play slaanesh armies).
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2015/07/09 09:52:49
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
ImAGeek wrote: I've always found it strange that people are fine with things like Khorne who's aim is to kill and maim anything and everything, but the minute boobs are shown on a model everyone freaks out. It's a weird society where games based on just killing things is fine but human anatomy is some weird taboo.
Seems to be an issue more in certain countries than in other countries (like USA or Europe)
41 comments on escapist, 1 positive. Nice plan GW and even better execution heh.
I would surely be upset, if slaneesh, would be replaced By PolyCarnus friends call him PC, the chaos god who feeds on the cries of those whom are offended by the slightest thing.
Hahaha PC, chaos god and nigmos, his daemons.
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Harriticus wrote: If GW did ax Slaanesh over family friendly ness it will be interesting to see how the GW white knights defend this
(S)he was boring just like sex drugs and guitars plus you can always agree with your opponent that it didnt happen at all.
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From the initial Age of Sigmar news thread, when its "feature" list was first confirmed:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
It's like a train wreck. But one made from two circus trains colliding.
A collosal, terrible, flaming, hysterical train wreck with burning clowns running around spraying it with seltzer bottles while ring masters cry out how everything is fine and we should all come in while the dancing elephants lurch around leaving trails of blood behind them.
How could I look away?
2015/07/09 10:06:11
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
ImAGeek wrote: I've always found it strange that people are fine with things like Khorne who's aim is to kill and maim anything and everything, but the minute boobs are shown on a model everyone freaks out. It's a weird society where games based on just killing things is fine but human anatomy is some weird taboo.
Seems to be an issue more in certain countries than in other countries (like USA or Europe)
I would surely be upset, if slaneesh, would be replaced By PolyCarnus friends call him PC, the chaos god who feeds on the cries of those whom are offended by the slightest thing.
oh i thought hmbc was saying it had some kind of derogatory double meaning, but i realize his post was in reply to the guy mentioning the hitler salute. I know the common meaning for chucking, just thought ibwas missing some offensive double meaning.
2015/07/09 10:29:20
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Retcon? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
ImAGeek wrote: I've always found it strange that people are fine with things like Khorne who's aim is to kill and maim anything and everything, but the minute boobs are shown on a model everyone freaks out. It's a weird society where games based on just killing things is fine but human anatomy is some weird taboo.
Seems to be an issue more in certain countries than in other countries (like USA or Europe)
I would surely be upset, if slaneesh, would be replaced By PolyCarnus friends call him PC, the chaos god who feeds on the cries of those whom are offended by the slightest thing.
oh i thought hmbc was saying it had some kind of derogatory double meaning, but i realize his post was in reply to the guy mentioning the hitler salute. I know the common meaning for chucking, just thought ibwas missing some offensive double meaning.
Spoiler:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
number9dream wrote: Went through a dozen slang terms for chuck and didn't find anything worse than it being s derogatory term for white males 40+ years ago..
I guess it's some kind of euphenism but google isn't helping me out so it can't be overly widespread?
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