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Having bought (and sold) Season 1, and then skipping 2 and 3 I have to say...

...this one looks great!

I have to say that despite not wanting to get back into a CMoN kickstarter (after having pledged for Sedition Wars and Rivet Wars...love Rivet Wars, can't make myself care about Sedition Wars) that the theme for this version of Zombicide may be what gets me off the fence. I'm not a fan of zombies in general, but I like what I see on this one!

Help me out here!

1) Sedition Wars - yeah, that one was a trainwreck and most people 'don't like it'.

2) Rivet Wars - almost universally loved

3) Zombicide - again, almost universally loved

So, based on that, and your experience, why would you hesitate to back this one?

Hmm I hope there bows and crossbows can throw out enough shots and damage at range as I tend to use mele as a last resort, to much stuff can go wrong and you get overwhelmed!

Given that melee has to be the main combat mode here, they've got to address/re-balance it, I'd hope!

I think the addition of magic will help make up for the lower amount of ranged weapons.

I'll wait and see, I liked the first season of the game a lot, never bothered to buy into the other seasons. Though I like the idea of being a magic missile casting melon-fether.

 BrookM wrote:
Though I like the idea of being a magic missile casting melon-fether.

I so want to sig that...

I will most likely be in for this although I would like to see more information.

I sold Season 1, skipped Season 2 but came back for Season 3 (which is my favorite that I've played). I kept Season 3 and looking to re-pick up Season 1 again, since my wife started playing more with me along with the kids.

I like they've added rolls for opening doors. I like dual weapon functionality concept. It will be interesting to see what spells get pulled into this. I like the tile designs. I'm wondering if characters still level up normally, since we haven't seen a character card. The speed enchantment seems like one of the skills instead, so curious to see integration.

I've also got season 1 and play it regularly with my wife, but have never really cared enough to buy the others.

This, however... I'm all over this. I just wish they would have thought of it sooner!

For a fantasy game, it just feels right to flip the card over for a powered up version of the hero rather than a zombie version.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
For a fantasy game, it just feels right to flip the card over for a powered up version of the hero rather than a zombie version.

And the first wounding will drop you from the powered up to the regular version via level drain

OK, I'm liking the look of S4, even if it's mostly a reskin and a tweak. Definitely interested!

I have S2 and S3, but I think S1 might be a better fit for me.

As only a core box has been announced do you think the Kickstarter will be for the solo box only (presumably at $100 including stretch goals and maybe a bonus box of zombies) or with an as yet unannounced expansion?

One thing that I think would be good is if they released the already released special S2/3/expansion zombies in a single Fantasy expansion release. Rather then all 4 types of Beserker zombies instead only have them as walkers (armored Knights), toxic fatties (dwarves), Seeker Runners (Elves) and an A-Bomb Abomination (Orc). Would be a much easier way to add in all the variety players currently have without overloading the game too much.

 Alpharius wrote:
Help me out here!

1) Sedition Wars - yeah, that one was a trainwreck and most people 'don't like it'.

2) Rivet Wars - almost universally loved

3) Zombicide - again, almost universally loved

So, based on that, and your experience, why would you hesitate to back this one?

You could add Relic Knights to that list. I think the game was OK, but it was massively delayed. My friend backed two CMON projects: Relic Knights and Sedition Wars. He won't touch CMON projects now.

Me? I backed Zombicide (great), Rivet Wars (great), and Kaosball (meh). I like CMON and I'm totally excited about this one!

Wrath of Kings, while slightly delayed, is awesome and totally delivered.

Either way, I'm still in on this

pancakeonions wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Help me out here!

1) Sedition Wars - yeah, that one was a trainwreck and most people 'don't like it'.

2) Rivet Wars - almost universally loved

3) Zombicide - again, almost universally loved

So, based on that, and your experience, why would you hesitate to back this one?

You could add Relic Knights to that list. I think the game was OK, but it was massively delayed. My friend backed two CMON projects: Relic Knights and Sedition Wars. He won't touch CMON projects now.

Me? I backed Zombicide (great), Rivet Wars (great), and Kaosball (meh). I like CMON and I'm totally excited about this one!

Still waiting for Xenoshyft....

I skipped all the other versions, I'll probably have to finally get in on this one. I like the look of the fantasy style stuff more than modernish. Guess sci fi zombies are for next year?

Don't forget, CMON is a publisher, who often works with the design studio for all of its Kickstarter projects.

So Sedition Wars was designed by a different company than Zombicide, and Rivet Wars was an entirely different company as well.

So saying you won't back a CMON project just because it's a CMON project is doing some disservice to the design studios that actually do a pretty good job on their end.

In terms of fulfillment, I think S2 of Zombicide was a few weeks late, and S3 is getting hit hard by the west coast strike, but I think just made it through customs. I've been satisfied with the CMON projects I backed, and believe me, the first Zombicide game was a wash in the pan compared to the sequel projects (many backers at the time didn't even know if the game would play well...I just got in it for the figures at the start, and later on when I played it the game was actually pretty fun!).

I have heard the horror stories on other projects though... namely Robotech and Sedition Wars.

I'm hoping they have some new gameplay mechanics for fantasy. If nothing else, they'll have some cool minis.

~iPaint

The biggest question mark for CMoN is the rules, not the minis.

Fortunately, more KS games are showing how things play and/or releasing Beta rules, or print & play, so people can try before they buy.

Looking at the S4 components, it's not obvious that core gameplay is much different from what we have today.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The biggest question mark for CMoN is the rules, not the minis.

Well CMoN doesn't write the Zombicide rules, but you probably already knew that.

The Zombicide rules have always been solid.

Addressing melee vs range, melee is where all the big damage is. It's higher risk, but higher reward. When it goes south, the later seasons also added the abilities to push zombies out the zone, taunt them out of a zone, drag a survivor out of a zone, and dogs who'll take a hit for their master, not to mention tough, medic, and is that all you got. With proper teamwork and team building casualties can be kept to a minimum.

 Alpharius wrote:
Help me out here!

1) Sedition Wars - yeah, that one was a trainwreck and most people 'don't like it'.

2) Rivet Wars - almost universally loved

3) Zombicide - again, almost universally loved

So, based on that, and your experience, why would you hesitate to back this one?

Not a problem with CMoN actually, but more trying to keep myself from doing too many kickstarters! I live in SE Arkansas, which has effectively no gaming culture. No reason to buy games I probably won't have anyone to play with.

I should instead say that despite trying to minimize my kickstarters...I still think I may jump in on this one. Even after just finishing dwarven forge and myth!

rox wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Help me out here!

1) Sedition Wars - yeah, that one was a trainwreck and most people 'don't like it'.

2) Rivet Wars - almost universally loved

3) Zombicide - again, almost universally loved

So, based on that, and your experience, why would you hesitate to back this one?

Not a problem with CMoN actually, but more trying to keep myself from doing too many kickstarters! I live in SE Arkansas, which has effectively no gaming culture. No reason to buy games I probably won't have anyone to play with.

I should instead say that despite trying to minimize my kickstarters...I still think I may jump in on this one. Even after just finishing dwarven forge and myth!

Totally understandable there!

I'm lucky enough to have a good boardgaming group these days - but sadly not a good miniature wargaming group too!

I have to admit, this might be what gets me into Zombiecide.

rox wrote:
I should instead say that despite trying to minimize my kickstarters...I still think I may jump in on this one. Even after just finishing dwarven forge and myth!

I just received Forgotten King wave 1; Zombicide 3 wave 2 should be inbound; both Journey and Kingdom Death are in print. While I probably should dial back, I just split for Conan and Blood Rage...

Knowing my tastes, there's a better chance I back 7 Sins : the Others. OTOH, if I sell Prison Outbreak, S4 might be a fun.

weeble1000 wrote:
I think the goal here is to capture a slightly different segment of the market.

The payoff would be in drawing more players/customers into Zombicide; people who don't yet have a single Zombicide product.

I haven't backed a single ZCide KS campaign, despite having purchased Seasons 1 and 2 at regular retail. I may back this one though. I can't deny that the fantasy theme sparks additional interest in me.

I would be part of that target market. Have not bought any Zombicide, but am liking the zombie figure illustrations and I would never say no to an armed and armored nun.... Zombies have potential as 40K Plague zombies/Nurgle cultists if the figs are close enough to 40K sized.

T

The Zombicide models are perfect when put alongside 40k models and the like. Best source of modern undead.

Backed 1 through 3, loved them all.. prossibly my two eldest lads fave boardgame we own.. and even though I got rid of a couple of survivors from season 1 and 2 I wasn't keen on, and skipped a couple of art boxes.. I counted up my survivors after season 3 arrived last week.

I have eighty five.. Not sure if that's maddness on CmoN's part or genius.. but I am a big fan of game.. and cannot see any reason why I won't be going in on this for most add ons.

Showed my boys yesterday and they were pleading for me to get it.. hehe.

 Pacific wrote:
Out of interest, how has the producing company coped with the previous Kickstarters?

Pretty well, but I'll let someone else tell you if they're happy as an international backer, or not.

CMON's improved since the early days, but I don't like their customer service. For myself, they've resolved replacement part issues quickly, and order inquiries not at all.

If you're not in it for the SG's and in no hurry, wait for retail. Retailers are already selling S3, and not all backers have received their base game copies. BoardGameGeek has a "Hot Deals" forum, and I regularly see previous Zombicide base games and big box expansions on sale. S2 backers got Toxic Mall for $50, and I picked up a copy a few months ago for $30.

If Z4 is the same "bucket-o-miniatures", I'm in. I don't know why I do this, since I'm such a slow painter...