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Gargantuan Gargant





New Bedford, MA USA

I'm looking forward to the Necromancer mechanic. Adding additional spawn points, and the ability to potentially remove spawn points is a big change.

   
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Louisiana

 adamsouza wrote:
I'm looking forward to the Necromancer mechanic. Adding additional spawn points, and the ability to potentially remove spawn points is a big change.


Lots of Zombicide scenarios have a mechanic that removes a spawn point and/or adds an additional spawn point.

The mechanic is not terribly new, except that the Necromancer card is in the deck, and so the mechanic is ostensibly part of every Black Plague scenario. The Necromancer functions a little more randomly, in that he randomly appears and follows an AI that will move him differently depending on where he spawns and what the map is like.

I think the mechanic is interesting, and that it will make Black Plague play differently, but adding/removing spawn points has been in Zombicide since Season 1.

Kirasu: Have we fallen so far that we are excited that GW is giving us the opportunity to spend 58$ for JUST the rules? Surprised it's not "Dataslate: Assault Phase"

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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster





Minnesota

Hm... I don't know why, but I don't buy the idea that they won't have different colored heroes. That seems like such a staple to Zombicide, it's an odd thought that they would do away with it.

Kingdom Death Fanatic. Dark Eldar: Kabal of the Fragile Breath. Dark Elves: Allegiance to the Black Crown. Also, Masons, Cygnar, and Legion of Everblight. All unnamed.

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Holy gak that is an awesome username. Please tell me your army is called Kabal of the Fragile Breath. Morathi's Darkest Sin has some competition here for best handle, I think.
 
   
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Fixture of Dakka






Interesting that they have relented on the always hits the survivor first rule when shooting the new rule is any hits hit the zombies and any misses hit the survivor simple enough change and makes sense and is easy to apply to any previous edition.

Plus no more Heroes/Survivors in coloured plastic they now get those coloured clip on base that are used in a lot of other CMoN games these days. I guess it's cheaper to do everything in one colour a and use those coloured bases that they already have for other games which means they only need around 6 colours rather than all the various shades they use now.

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 DaveC wrote:

Plus no more Heroes/Survivors in coloured plastic they now get those coloured clip on base that are used in a lot of other CMoN games these days. I guess it's cheaper to do everything in one colour a and use those coloured bases that they already have for other games which means they only need around 6 colours rather than all the various shades they use now.


Right - and that's why it is very believable!
   
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Using Inks and Washes





San Francisco, CA

I've also heard that from a manufacturing perspective, some colors hold detail less well and may be more expensive. I haven't looked closely at my Zombicide S1 figs, but they come in a lot of different colors!

If you hit a lot of stretch goals, that's a lot of colors you have to find!

I play...

Sigh.

Who am I kidding? I only paint these days... 
   
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I like the idea of using the same colour for all heroes but with a different colour base. I don't see anything bad with that. That way you could also maybe add any potential zombivor into the zombie horde if you'd want that.

   
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster





Minnesota

I love having survivors be all sorts of bright colors. I love bright colors, it makes it immediately obvious where your team members are at, and, makes me feel less guilty about not painting them!

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Kingdom Death Fanatic. Dark Eldar: Kabal of the Fragile Breath. Dark Elves: Allegiance to the Black Crown. Also, Masons, Cygnar, and Legion of Everblight. All unnamed.

Manchu wrote:
The Fragile Breath wrote: . . . something but I was distracted by the username.
Holy gak that is an awesome username. Please tell me your army is called Kabal of the Fragile Breath. Morathi's Darkest Sin has some competition here for best handle, I think.
 
   
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SoCal, USA!

 DaveC wrote:
Interesting that they have relented on the always hits the survivor first rule when shooting the new rule is any hits hit the zombies and any misses hit the survivor simple enough change and makes sense and is easy to apply to any previous edition.


Quite frankly, this is how it should have been from the get-go. The idea that hits go to Survivors first is ludicrous.


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 The Fragile Breath wrote:
I love having survivors be all sorts of bright colors. I love bright colors, it makes it immediately obvious where your team members are at, and, makes me feel less guilty about not painting them!


I agree that the Survivors should have been an off-white - something brighter and easier to see.

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Primered White




McDonough, GA

grefven wrote:
I like the idea of using the same colour for all heroes but with a different colour base. I don't see anything bad with that. That way you could also maybe add any potential zombivor into the zombie horde if you'd want that.


They said on Facebook a couple weeks back that there would be no Zombivor mode in ZBP. I don't know if that means never ever, or wait till the expansion for it

Also I really like ZBP and think we should make this the official shorthand for the game lol


 
   
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Gargantuan Gargant





New Bedford, MA USA

weeble1000 wrote:
 adamsouza wrote:
I'm looking forward to the Necromancer mechanic. Adding additional spawn points, and the ability to potentially remove spawn points is a big change.


Lots of Zombicide scenarios have a mechanic that removes a spawn point and/or adds an additional spawn point.

The mechanic is not terribly new, except that the Necromancer card is in the deck, and so the mechanic is ostensibly part of every Black Plague scenario. The Necromancer functions a little more randomly, in that he randomly appears and follows an AI that will move him differently depending on where he spawns and what the map is like.

I think the mechanic is interesting, and that it will make Black Plague play differently, but adding/removing spawn points has been in Zombicide since Season 1.


It was always scenario specific and not a general rule.

Now it's a zombie type adding a spawn point at a random location, and the players choosing which spawn point to remove. I't siginificantly different in application.

   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




Louisiana

Which is what I said.

I think the necromancer mechanic will make ZBP play a little differently, but I don't think the mechanic will make ZBP radically different from the way Zombicide has played in its varied incarnations.

I think the biggest difference is that the players have an incentive to move towards the zombies rather aggressively, as opposed to avoiding them, because you need to chase down the necromancer before the model exits the table.

Like all things Zcide, it is a simple tweak that has a comparatively significant impact on the way the game plays, but we aren't talking about a massive up-ending of the gameplay experience here.

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Kirasu: Have we fallen so far that we are excited that GW is giving us the opportunity to spend 58$ for JUST the rules? Surprised it's not "Dataslate: Assault Phase"

AlexHolker: "The power loader is a forklift. The public doesn't complain about a forklift not having frontal armour protecting the crew compartment because the only enemy it is designed to face is the OHSA violation."

AlexHolker: "Allow me to put it this way: Paramount is Skynet, reboots are termination attempts, and your childhood is John Connor."
 
   
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California the Southern



A preview of things to come?



The characters from B-Sieged are getting Zombicide Black Plague dashboards included.

I think this is the first we've seen of the new dashboards. Interesting about the sword thing in the corner, but there's also no XP tracker, at least yet.

Also seems like quite a lot of possible skills there.

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Gargantuan Gargant





New Bedford, MA USA

No XP tracker, and I'm not seeing space for 5 inventory items either.

I could see keeping cards off of the dashboard. Maybe they'll have have plastic dials for XP tracking ?

   
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California the Southern

The way CMON has been blinging out all their board games, replacing tokens with plastic...

You might be on to something.

Never been a fan of the XP tracker clips anyways.

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Fixture of Dakka






There is a video on Guillotine games Facebook page of what looks like a new dashboard and card holder being cut it now makes more sense seeing the new character card.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=833590166727020&id=183613205058056&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.833590166727020&__tn__=%2As

The character card goes in the centre section and there spaces on either side to hold equipment cards and another smaller slot near the top. I guess these will be made in plastic

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California the Southern

And with the colored rings matching a colored dashboard holder....

it all makes sense now. Cool.

Hopefully this leads to less cards getting knocked around the table then.

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Minnesota

So, with it confirmed that we're getting "plenty of guest promo characters", what are some you guys think we'll see? What do you want to see?

Me, personally, I'd love an Ahhnold Conan, Sylvanas Windrunner, and as unlikely as it would be, I would absolutely kill for Lucina from Fire Emblem: Awakening.

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Manchu wrote:
The Fragile Breath wrote: . . . something but I was distracted by the username.
Holy gak that is an awesome username. Please tell me your army is called Kabal of the Fragile Breath. Morathi's Darkest Sin has some competition here for best handle, I think.
 
   
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Sniping Reverend Moira





Cincinnati, Ohio

 The Fragile Breath wrote:
So, with it confirmed that we're getting "plenty of guest promo characters", what are some you guys think we'll see? What do you want to see?

Me, personally, I'd love an Ahhnold Conan, Sylvanas Windrunner, and as unlikely as it would be, I would absolutely kill for Lucina from Fire Emblem: Awakening.


I'd take a few fire emblem homages in a heartbeat.

 
   
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Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)

Link, Ash, LotR characters, WoW characters, Conan. High Fantasy is harder than pop culture to get people excited about. We haven't had a ton of good shows or movies in fantasy settings. Maybe some Arthurian stuff. Van Helsing? Underworld?

I think I'll just be along for the ride and hopeful for some rando's that get me excited.

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Cincinnati, Ohio

 Hulksmash wrote:
Link, Ash, LotR characters, WoW characters, Conan. High Fantasy is harder than pop culture to get people excited about. We haven't had a ton of good shows or movies in fantasy settings. Maybe some Arthurian stuff. Van Helsing? Underworld?

I think I'll just be along for the ride and hopeful for some rando's that get me excited.


I guess...if they wanted...they could do some to this little known show running on HBO right now...

Game of something or other?

 
   
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Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)

I guess that could be the Big Bang of the genre

I also wouldn't be against some of their WoK characters getting a nod.

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I wonder if Allison Twilight Knight will appear seems like good candidate as she has crossed over into a load of games including CMoN games.
   
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Blackadder, and I'd be more than happy for a long time.

   
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The Last Chancer Who Survived





Norristown, PA

I would like to see Bilbo Baggins: Zombie Hunter

 
   
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California the Southern

I could see some sort of Hobbit related character. Might be a tough one though due to copyright similarities though. An old wizard with a pointy hat, a staff, and a long gray beard though? Hard to claim that would be any specific character.

I could go for another Black Adder. And a Twilight Knight.

Link would be an obvious choice.

Even though it's not even close to the same time era, I can't help but want some sort of Dumas type swashbuckler. A musketeer trio, a noble imposter imprisoned for a crime he didn't commit, a man with a metal faceplate...

I guess we'll all be seeing who they dig up soon enough though.

What would be funny is if the base game Black Plague figures end up having B-Sieged dashboards to make both games totally cross compatible.

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On an Express Elevator to Hell!!

 Hulksmash wrote:
Link, Ash, LotR characters, WoW characters, Conan. High Fantasy is harder than pop culture to get people excited about. We haven't had a ton of good shows or movies in fantasy settings. Maybe some Arthurian stuff. Van Helsing? Underworld?

I think I'll just be along for the ride and hopeful for some rando's that get me excited.


I think there is a hell of a lot of stuff within the fantasy genre for people to get excited about !

For me, anyway, although I'm sure most people buying this game are going to be 'into' the fantasy genre as a bare minimum.

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The Last Chancer Who Survived





Norristown, PA

How about the Black Knight from the holy grail? His arms and legs could be optional. But then the board gamers would complain about all the extra pieces

 
   
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Gargantuan Gargant





New Bedford, MA USA

A drunken dwarf, a one handed swordsman, a female knight, and a captain of the guard, who knows nothing, and you have my GOT dream team

   
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Executing Exarch






I want Lucy, Peter, Susan, Edmund, and preferably a moleman and a faun! Also a girl with ruby slippers and a badass chainsaw, a nerdy wizard named Barry with his hot girlfriend Emma, another wizard with a talking luggage, a dwarf named after a tree with a clumsy human friend, a girl in a blue dress who likes to drink tea with rabbits, a lawless warrior princess, a girl with a red hood and a wolf "friend"... I could go on.

So yeah, there are plenty! (And if you got all the references you are pretty cool)
   
 
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