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Chainswords now give +1 attack. I wonder how that affects choppa boyz. Does that mean the axe and knife models play differently on the tabletop?

Power fists do D3 damage. I could see PK doing D6, they are bigger than fists usually. That would be awesome, but I doubt it.

Ashkayel wrote:
Power fists do D3 damage. I could see PK doing D6, they are bigger than fists usually. That would be awesome, but I doubt it.

No way, they will never do that, do you imagine? gw push people to buy orks? noooooooo only imperium :p

More seriously, the power fist is similar to the PK, they will not change that, but i hope Mega nobz will have an upgrade, cause the termi got one (2 hp), but eh combi rocket will be good on mega nobz.

KNights are allowed to toss broken vehicles at other units; and get 24 wounds, are allowed to walk over infantry models to leave combat and are allowed to shoot after they do so....

Stompas are gonna rule.

Lifta-droppa please.

 JimOnMars wrote:
Chainswords now give +1 attack. I wonder how that affects choppa boyz. Does that mean the axe and knife models play differently on the tabletop?

I'm betting it means choppas are going to be +1 attack as well. As much as I'd like an armour save reduction, I do want lots of attacks too...

But yeah, considering a lot of choppas are just chainswords anyways, I could see them blanket ruling 'choppas' in this same way.

Now that furious charge might be gone, its possible that choppas get the same rule as Orcs used to have in 8th ed Fantasy, where the wielder gets +1S in the first round of combat. That might better for our boyz since it gives us more oomph both when we charge and we get charged, rather than how furious charge works now where we get hosed if we don't get the drop on an enemy unit.

I might be reading this wrong, but... Power Fists do multiple damage every hit. D3 damage per hit. We haven't seen any stats for Orks yet, but using the example of a Terminator with a PF:

A Terminator has 2 base attacks.
In CC, for each of those attacks that hit, he inflicts D3 wounds.
So he has the potential to inflict 2 x D3 wounds, right?

Is it possible that a Warboss could hand out 5 x D3 hits? Could it be??

 Cleatus wrote:
I might be reading this wrong, but... Power Fists do multiple damage every hit. D3 damage per hit. We haven't seen any stats for Orks yet, but using the example of a Terminator with a PF:

A Terminator has 2 base attacks.
In CC, for each of those attacks that hit, he inflicts D3 wounds.
So he has the potential to inflict 2 x D3 wounds, right?

Is it possible that a Warboss could hand out 5 x D3 hits? Could it be??

I don't see it as far-fetched, its very likely given from what we've seen. CC is definitely going to be an area where you get to pile on the wounds.

D3 and D6 wounds are like instant death in 7th. Useless on single wound models.

 thenewgozoku wrote:
D3 and D6 wounds are like instant death in 7th. Useless on single wound models.

And no Eternal Warrior to stop it.

In AoS there are abilities that reduce multiple wounds

There seem to be a lot of ork stuff out of stock.

I see 7 codes including Big mek with SAG.

Looks like mostly finecast models running out of stock to me.

 Jidmah wrote:
Looks like mostly finecast models running out of stock to me.

Mek, big mek with SAG and Deff dread are plastic.

 thenewgozoku wrote:
D3 and D6 wounds are like instant death in 7th. Useless on single wound models.

Why useless on single wounds models? If you cause D3 wounds and roll a 2 or 3 you should remove 2 or 3 single wound models, right? Is the concept of causing Dsomething wounds going to change in the upcoming edition? In the current one a flamer cause D3 wounds in overwatch, for example, and it can kill 2-3 single wound models if the player rolls high.

The super-heavy detatchment...

so Orks finally have their own imperial knights detatchment! 3x stompas inc! I best get building

Solar Shock wrote:
The super-heavy detatchment...

so Orks finally have their own imperial knights detatchment! 3x stompas inc! I best get building

just want to ask to see your kustom monowheel warboss

 Blackie wrote:

 thenewgozoku wrote:
D3 and D6 wounds are like instant death in 7th. Useless on single wound models.

Why useless on single wounds models? If you cause D3 wounds and roll a 2 or 3 you should remove 2 or 3 single wound models, right? Is the concept of causing Dsomething wounds going to change in the upcoming edition? In the current one a flamer cause D3 wounds in overwatch, for example, and it can kill 2-3 single wound models if the player rolls high.

They've clarified that weapons that cause D3 or D6 wounds goes by a per-model basis rather than unit. So the each D3 wound result is effectively overkill on a single model that doesn't spill over to the rest of the unit it's in. This makes it so that these guns don't completely overshadow rate of fire weaponry like big shootas/scatter lasers while still having an important role in taking out big beasties and multi wound units.

And I don't think Flamers are d6 wounds, they're d6 HITS.

yep!

Im loving the idea of a group of 10 burnas in a BW, with a group of big choppa/shoota nobs next to them now.

Burnas roll up and torch things, nobs get out and krump things that arent worth shooting.

and hopefully the waggon can go steamroll things with a buffed deffrolla.

Burnas used to have power sword equivalent in CC if it becomes like marines power swords that we saw in CC weapons article that will be a serious buff.

The burna wagon would have been outstanding in 7e (possibly better than in 8th) but the battlewaggon got wiped or immobilized before it got across the field.

15 burnas with the template could have caused upwards of 150 wounds. Now they won't be nearly as good, but the BW will live to actually get them there.

I liked using burnas as a distraction unit, but the 7e codex was nothing but distraction units, so they weren't special. Now I'm going through my lootas kits and actually thinking of putting together some more of them.

 JimOnMars wrote:
The burna wagon would have been outstanding in 7e (possibly better than in 8th) but the battlewaggon got wiped or immobilized before it got across the field.

15 burnas with the template could have caused upwards of 150 wounds. Now they won't be nearly as good.

15 burnas statistically deal 17.5 wounds before saves to anything with t5-7. From stats we know, an annihilation barge is t6 sv 4+. Means it's going to be dead in one go. I'd expect 15 burnas to one-shot or severely cripple pretty much any light vehicle like a rhino or chimera. They still do around 3 unsaved wounds to a dread or imperial knight. Which is not amazing but they are much more useable than they are now. And 150 wounds is not really likely to happen in a real game. Sure, 15 burnas would wipe light infantry within 8' in 7-th but than...orks don't really need it now. And it's a problem to get anywhere since whenever their vehicle gets a pen, it has high odds of not going anywhere anymore and even if it does, burnas have to roll ld to see if they can shoot at all. And close to 50% of the time they can't.

 koooaei wrote:

 JimOnMars wrote:
The burna wagon would have been outstanding in 7e (possibly better than in 8th) but the battlewaggon got wiped or immobilized before it got across the field.

15 burnas with the template could have caused upwards of 150 wounds. Now they won't be nearly as good.

15 burnas statistically deal 17.5 wounds before saves to anything with t5-7. From stats we know, an annihilation barge is t6 sv 4+. Means it's going to be dead in one go. I'd expect 15 burnas to one-shot or severely cripple pretty much any light vehicle like a rhino or chimera. They still do around 3 unsaved wounds to a dread or imperial knight. Which is not amazing but they are much more useable than they are now. And 150 wounds is not really likely to happen in a real game. Sure, 15 burnas would wipe light infantry within 8' in 7-th but than...orks don't really need it now. And it's a problem to get anywhere since whenever their vehicle gets a pen, it has high odds of not going anywhere anymore and even if it does, burnas have to roll ld to see if they can shoot at all. And close to 50% of the time they can't.

I VERY eagerly await tomorrow's preview of the transport rules. Most of my army is Trukk borne or hauled by BWs. If there is no shaken/stunned and disembarking and embarking rules are good for orks, I think I'm going to have a good time in 8th edition.

Holding 2 units in a BW is definitely a huge thing for us, whether it's burnas or flash gitz softening them up and nobz/meganobz to clean up we can combo our units that aren't able to be taken in 20's.

Transport rules looking good for us so far.

Disembarking at start of movement phase, but still being able to charge seems fair.

Passengers in OT transports can shoot normally even if transport moved.

Starweaver is T5, W6. +4. Not accounting for special rules, I think Trukks will be similar.

Passengers in a wrecked transport dying on a 1 is not as huge a deal for us.

Only burning question left for me is whether the tranport being locked in combat prevents disembarking.

Boys dying on a one is a huge improvement; particularly when combined with controlling player assigns wounds!

before an explode resulted in just under half the boys dying a stupidly high proportion of the time!

Did they just kill MANz missiles?

Ashkayel wrote:
Did they just kill MANz missiles?

How? We know nothing about the trukk statline so we really can't call it until that happens.

We also don't know if it's just "roll a 1 and the model dies with no saves" or "roll a 1 and the model takes a wound." They didn't really make it clear there.