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 Calibanite Lion wrote:
The crusader is looking good, I can't help thinking the knife in the ecclesiarchs hand makes him look a little like a sacrificial priest?

That was my first thought too

Calibanite Lion wrote:The crusader is looking good, I can't help thinking the knife in the ecclesiarchs hand makes him look a little like a sacrificial priest?

Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Calibanite Lion wrote:
The crusader is looking good, I can't help thinking the knife in the ecclesiarchs hand makes him look a little like a sacrificial priest?

That was my first thought too

So...is sacrificial priest not good, or...? Maybe would some fluff help?

Paradigm wrote:The Ecclesiarch is great!

Don't know how doable it is, but I'd possibly lower the arm on the Crusader, as if the mace were being held ready to swing rather than what at the moment looks like he's poking it forward. It's still good as is, but I think a lowered mace wold look more aggressive/imposing.

Thanks, Paradigm As LDD said, it's been a bit tough trying to find a good pose based on the angle of the wrist and the fixed elbow points with the Bret body. That being said, lowering the mace might work. I'll have another look...

lone dirty dog wrote:That Priest really reminds me of those old house of horror movies, you know the priest trying to take down the Vampire lord EPIC !!!! and I love that dagger it is not something you normally see but fits perfectly

The Crusader is coming together nicely and I like the batton but I do see what Paradigm means about the pose, however I really can't see how you can alter the pose due to the posing of the actual model.

Great work so far

Thanks, LDD! I'll see what I can do about that mace

Dont be too put off about the mace mate its not that much of an issue, also it depends how you base him as that will make a difference to explaining the pose.

Plus I love the Priest he has an awesome look especially fitting for the extremism of the inquisition.

To clarify on the mace, I was thinking cutting through at the shoulder and rotating the whole thing down about 70 degrees. But as said, it's fine how it is if you (understandably) don't want to go hacking up finished minis.

chiming in with the mace arm here... the shoulder looks already as if there was an easy option to just snap it off... might be due to the pic as i have the bretonian model too and usually it is just a one piece with arms to add...but here the shoulder upper arm section looks slightly different...

lone dirty dog wrote:Dont be too put off about the mace mate its not that much of an issue, also it depends how you base him as that will make a difference to explaining the pose.

Plus I love the Priest he has an awesome look especially fitting for the extremism of the inquisition.

Thanks for your involvement, LDD Any idea's on the base? I didn't have anything too special planned.

Paradigm wrote:To clarify on the mace, I was thinking cutting through at the shoulder and rotating the whole thing down about 70 degrees. But as said, it's fine how it is if you (understandably) don't want to go hacking up finished minis.

Viktor von Domm wrote:chiming in with the mace arm here... the shoulder looks already as if there was an easy option to just snap it off... might be due to the pic as i have the bretonian model too and usually it is just a one piece with arms to add...but here the shoulder upper arm section looks slightly different...

You butchers! The Bret body is all one piece, though there is good spot to HYPOTHETICALLY cut the arm off and reposition, though I'm not sure I'm too keen on that. I don't think you could actually get too much rotation out of it because of the fixed elbow angle; it will look unnatural pretty quickly.

What about shortening the mace? I was looking at the pics again after you guys had chimed in, and am thinking it looks pretty long for a mere human to wield one handed. What about taking out the two bits between the studded haft and the actual head?

Thanks for looking and helping out!

shortening the mace...hmm... sounds like an interesting idea... kind of chopping it down in parts/section so that later on it seems he is wielding it more middlehand then at the end of the mace´s grip...

and i see what you mean with the shoulder and little rotation until it looks silly... i rest my case

also... butchers?...you chopped the arms off of the poor wee bugger of a grot first....

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
shortening the mace...hmm... sounds like an interesting idea... kind of chopping it down in parts/section so that later on it seems he is wielding it more middlehand then at the end of the mace´s grip...

and i see what you mean with the shoulder and little rotation until it looks silly... i rest my case

also... butchers?...you chopped the arms off of the poor wee bugger of a grot first....

Ok, butchers might have been a bit overdramatic. I just didn't want to cut into the arm

 Rawson wrote:

Calibanite Lion wrote:The crusader is looking good, I can't help thinking the knife in the ecclesiarchs hand makes him look a little like a sacrificial priest?

Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Calibanite Lion wrote:
The crusader is looking good, I can't help thinking the knife in the ecclesiarchs hand makes him look a little like a sacrificial priest?

That was my first thought too

So...is sacrificial priest not good, or...? Maybe would some fluff help?

It's not necessarily a bad thing, it could be good, I think fluff to add context would be good. Maybe he is about to sacrifice a heretic, we all know how judgey an ecclesiarch can be

I agree that priest looks ok with the knife, maybe he's used to a bit of Ecclesiarchial intrigue.

I agree with shortening the mace, I don't see why you can't chop the arm stump of the bret model as well, then again I'm used to carving up brets

Well... fwiw it's technically "Midget Psycho" in Borderlands if that makes you feel any better? I'm not helping, am I?

All of these guys look awesome!! I love the loot bag and shotgun as well, it's got a great feel to it. Really digging the marksman as well.

If you're going to chop the mace down then the base is no issue I did think it myself but was not sure you would want to take that approach, however it has some sections of detail that could allow some easy shortening with a careful cut or two.

As for the base idea I was thinking of some kind of destroyed wall section to his right side, as I thought this would explain the mace ready raised for action but just a thought.

 Rawson wrote:
So...is sacrificial priest not good, or...? Maybe would some fluff help?

Blood being used in worship seems a more Chaos archetype, especially as it brings up images of sacrificing unwilling victims. Fluff would help to an extent, but there has to be something about the model itself that makes the connection without solely relying on the fluff. It may be that the priest is part of an Order that believes in ritual purification, blood letting to remove impurities from their body and souls, or a way of balancing their humours. Maybe it was a cult that sprang up on a world where the Blood Angels were deployed. For something like that to make sense on the miniature you need to have some ornamentation that makes this fluff visible. Perhaps a red colour scheme for the robes might help, along with some decoration from the Blood Angel sprues like the vials of liquid, blood drops, and chalices.

Death Cultists could be blood centric as well. Just depends on their flavor.

I'm liking these quite a bit. Great head for the ecclesiarch, I can actually see him as a charismatic leader which is a huge step up from most of the ecclesiarchy models GW makes.

What's the head on the crusader from, is that a new skitarii bit?

The savant and the astropath are awesome.

I'd buy either one if they were an actual release.

Zefig wrote:I'm liking these quite a bit. Great head for the ecclesiarch, I can actually see him as a charismatic leader which is a huge step up from most of the ecclesiarchy models GW makes.

What's the head on the crusader from, is that a new skitarii bit?

Thanks, Zefig! That's pretty much the look I was going for And yes, the crusader head is a Skitarii Vanguard head

CT GAMER wrote:The savant and the astropath are awesome.

I'd buy either one if they were an actual release.

Haha, thanks, CT gamer! They shouldnt be too hard to reconstruct if you wanted to make your own. I can write out a bits list if you're interested

Thanks for looking!

A long time ago, in a thread far, far away, there was started a 40k Beastmen project.

I finally got around to getting them out, finishing up the last little bit of sculpting, and got some paint on them. Here's what I've got for the flesh tone, which I'm quite happy with, but I'm having problems sorting out the rest of the scheme. I was thinking weathered black armor, but that still leaves fur, horns, cloth, lenses, etc. Any suggestions? I could use the help!



Cheers,
Rawson

Long time no hear welcome back

Looking badass and the use of Orc ams genius really gives him a sense of bulk which works well, like the fact you have gone for a more muted skin tone rather than the usual dark pallet.

I think very neutral tones would complement the scheme here, is this going to be chaos or imperial ?

Fur : Browns not to dark varying between mousey to or auburns, not to dark as it will clash with the skin tones.

Horns : look to Rams for the colour tone as I think they will work best with the skin colouring.

Cloth : now this depends on the alliance if imperial I would go for kaki, light browns boarding on mustard tones, however if chaos dark reds,
washed out dark browns maybe even black although might clash with armour. However if you are doing chaos I would do the armour a mix of rusty copper and silver but that's just my option.

Lenses : I gloss black or red depending what works best with chosen scheme, orange works well as well.

Hope that helps some probably not though LOL looking good and can't wait to see where you go with this.

the skin looks stunning...a very lifelike appearance...
as for the horns...well...LDD pretty much summed it up...with skin that convincing a natural hue to the horns is a given...
as to the fabrics colours...well...i totally forgot if these beastmen are to be a detachment of the vostroyan army of yours...depending on that it should have a bit of blend in colourwise...tho i like the faded black idea of yours..that could further underline the abhuman character ...

also...a welcome back (again) in your welcome back again thread...

Thanks for the comments, mine herrer!

lone dirty dog wrote:Long time no hear welcome back

Looking badass and the use of Orc ams genius really gives him a sense of bulk which works well, like the fact you have gone for a more muted skin tone rather than the usual dark pallet.

I think very neutral tones would complement the scheme here, is this going to be chaos or imperial ?

Fur : Browns not to dark varying between mousey to or auburns, not to dark as it will clash with the skin tones.

Horns : look to Rams for the colour tone as I think they will work best with the skin colouring.

Cloth : now this depends on the alliance if imperial I would go for kaki, light browns boarding on mustard tones, however if chaos dark reds,
washed out dark browns maybe even black although might clash with armour. However if you are doing chaos I would do the armour a mix of rusty copper and silver but that's just my option.

Lenses : I gloss black or red depending what works best with chosen scheme, orange works well as well.

Hope that helps some probably not though LOL looking good and can't wait to see where you go with this.

I hadn't thought so much about the imperial leaning, thanks for bringing it up! It fits a bit more with the scrap scavengers theme I had in mind, some abhumans on the very edge of imperial society, stuck on some crap moon somewhere

I'll try your horn pallet, I also what to try some very dark horns (think mountain goat).

Viktor von Domm wrote:the skin looks stunning...a very lifelike appearance...
as for the horns...well...LDD pretty much summed it up...with skin that convincing a natural hue to the horns is a given...
as to the fabrics colours...well...i totally forgot if these beastmen are to be a detachment of the vostroyan army of yours...depending on that it should have a bit of blend in colourwise...tho i like the faded black idea of yours..that could further underline the abhuman character ...

also...a welcome back (again) in your welcome back again thread...

Nope, not attached to the 104th. Just one of my many side projects

You totally 'get' the Inquisimunda vibe. Very inspiring log!

Lots of cool stuff in here.

I want to see more brastmen!

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