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 yakface wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:The Hunter is a full drone, right? There isn't some life form crammed into that tiny chest cavity, right?

Yep, full bot. Its just designed originally to be a warmech, whereas the other drones were originally made by the Foundation to perform non-military functions and then later converted to military service. The Hunter is the first true bot we've shown that the Foundation designed specifically for war.

That always annoys the hell out of me with Tau Crisis Suits minis.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
In the story, they require a bot handler.

Hunters don't require a Bot Handler, as they are a separate unit, but the Journeyman Bot Handler Command unit can buff the Hunter (as well as any other drone or bot unit) to make them more effective. We'll have an update on the Hunter's rules later this week, and there's a post on the Bot Handler coming as well.

 d-usa wrote:
Will he be on a base for game purposes? If so what size?

They dont need bases for the game, bases would be good for aesthetic purposes and are the $60K stretch goal.

The two sizes we are hoping to make are 44mm and 52mm. See stretch goal #6 for more information:

The Hunter Robots, Spider Drones and Large Angel are all free standing models. The rules work fine with them like that, but we'd love to get proper bases so that they can match the other models thematically for hobbyists who put lots of effort into basing their forces nicely. We've already got all the CAD models completed, but need a guaranteed volume to justify production of these bases. If we hit $60K, we can include 1 large Angel base and 6 Hunter and Spider Drone bases in every set, complete with our front and rear arc marker notches.

 d-usa wrote:

Will he be on a base for game purposes? If so what size?

See the new list of stretch goals, we have base designs ready for both the Spider Drones and the Hunger/Mature Angel, but we will need to hit those goals to get them (and I desperately want them!).

Regardless of how it plays out, the rules will cover it...its just the bases will make it much cleaner. And even if we can't make the bases, you will still be allowed to put it on a base without breaking any rules for sure.

As for the specific sizes of these stretch goal bases, Lego will have to chime in (I can't remember right now).


Edit: Ninja'd!

 yakface wrote:

None of the bots require a bot handler to function. They all have rudimentary processing abilities that allows them to function on their own (think of ED-209 without the homicidal bugs). Its just a bot handler allows them to perform at a higher level of capabilities.

Considering they are designed to fight in wars the homicidal bugs are just program functions

I am guessing you are planning a 40mm size base for this guy?


NM ninjad lol

 Cyporiean wrote:

 yakface wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:The Hunter is a full drone, right? There isn't some life form crammed into that tiny chest cavity, right?

Yep, full bot. Its just designed originally to be a warmech, whereas the other drones were originally made by the Foundation to perform non-military functions and then later converted to military service. The Hunter is the first true bot we've shown that the Foundation designed specifically for war.

That always annoys the hell out of me with Tau Crisis Suits minis.

Crisis suits were designed for war during one of the earlier spheres of expansion. I don't recall any fluff about them being civilian purpose suits initially.

I think the 'annoyed' part is referencing the 'life form crammed in there' part...

 Alpharius wrote:
I think the 'annoyed' part is referencing the 'life form crammed in there' part...

Yup, everyone makes True-Scale Space Marines.. no one cares about Tau not being able to fit inside Crisis Suits.

 legoburner wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Will he be on a base for game purposes? If so what size?

They dont need bases for the game, bases would be good for aesthetic purposes and are the $60K stretch goal.

The two sizes we are hoping to make are 44mm and 52mm. See stretch goal #6 for more information:

The Hunter Robots, Spider Drones and Large Angel are all free standing models. The rules work fine with them like that, but we'd love to get proper bases so that they can match the other models thematically for hobbyists who put lots of effort into basing their forces nicely. We've already got all the CAD models completed, but need a guaranteed volume to justify production of these bases. If we hit $60K, we can include 1 large Angel base and 6 Hunter and Spider Drone bases in every set, complete with our front and rear arc marker notches.

So why 44mm and 52mm and not 40mm and 50mm?

Ah, that I would agree with considering I've been sorta converting bigger crisis suits. You definitely can fit a medge human in there but there is no need to given its a robot.

I stop following this for two seconds and you sneaky gits try to sneak a badass robot under my nose.

How could this happen to me...?

I have a deal with good guy tides to swap my Contractors for his Karists to make a double the size army... but, that was before I saw the bot handler and the two mechs basically...

Hm. Time to negotiate our deal more. I actually pledged today guys. Good luck everyone.

Edit: How many extra 12$ allotments would I need to be able to get enough parts to replicated the building in the top left and bottom left of this image? Thanks all.

 Stormwall wrote:
Edit: How many extra 12$ allotments would I need to be able to get enough parts to replicated the building in the top left and bottom left of this image? Thanks all.

I can't say for the grey buildings, as they weren't mine... But the building in the top left was bult using a single sprue, witha few leftover parts.

 insaniak wrote:

 Stormwall wrote:
Edit: How many extra 12$ allotments would I need to be able to get enough parts to replicated the building in the top left and bottom left of this image? Thanks all.

I can't say for the grey buildings, as they weren't mine... But the building in the top left was bult using a single sprue, witha few leftover parts.

I may have to get a few of those. At least two. Thanks man. Was the entire building made from just MEdge parts or was it plasticard too?

 Stormwall wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

 Stormwall wrote:
Edit: How many extra 12$ allotments would I need to be able to get enough parts to replicated the building in the top left and bottom left of this image? Thanks all.

I can't say for the grey buildings, as they weren't mine... But the building in the top left was bult using a single sprue, witha few leftover parts.

I may have to get a few of those. At least two. Thanks man. Was the entire building made from just MEdge parts or was it plasticard too?

The MEdge sprue only contains detail bits, like doors, computer terminals, windows, etc... The actual structure is something you have to provide yourself, like using electrical boxes or plasticard.

Screw it! Just end the KS now and take my money!

You weren't joking about a massive update! Well worth the wait and tomo I'm going to get on to a few mates who have been sitting on the fence about this!

 Stormwall wrote:

I may have to get a few of those. At least two. Thanks man. Was the entire building made from just MEdge parts or was it plasticard too?

The walls are 5mm foamcore, with the buttresses bulked out with some 3mm foamcore alongside to make them the same width as the support struts on the MEdge sprue. The roof is just thin card, and there's a strip of embroidery mesh down the walkway on the roof peak.

The MEdge sprue just provides the detailing.

Okay. Thanks Grey and Insaniak. I was wondering because, I make a lot of terrain and I was going "that is too good of a value to be plastic and 12."

Okay, so the sprues are just for detail. Thanks all.

The interesting thing I have found about the terrain sprues is that they actually do a fantastic job of tying a whole range of different building designs together. Ragardless of the individual construction of the different buildings, the common elements provided by the terrain sprue result in them all looking like they belong together, which is great for creating a cohesive look on the table.

Yea, the terrain sprue is a really great idea. I want to get my hands of a few of them, probably after the Kick Starter.

I am loving that Hunter robot too! Nice design.

Just upped my pledge!

 Ozymandias wrote:
Just upped my pledge!

Me too, in for the double boxed set now

I'm in. Thanks guys for the new game. Refreshing. I'm not a GW brasher and have been with 40K since Rogue Trader but I have fallen out of love with the new way of them doing things. I look forward to December !

Now I¡m starting to get interested. Frankly the first offerings didn't do much for me but the building sprue and the Hunter are tickling my fancy. Hmmm.

I don't know if it's possible but a flexible pledge that allows me to get those add-ons rather than a pledge level might pull me in.
M.

 Miguelsan wrote:
Now I¡m starting to get interested. Frankly the first offerings didn't do much for me but the building sprue and the Hunter are tickling my fancy. Hmmm.

I don't know if it's possible but a flexible pledge that allows me to get those add-ons rather than a pledge level might pull me in.
M.

If you filter on me, you'll see the answer to that in my last post. In a nutshell, no for now.

Pity because for the most part I've been indifferent to most of the other miniatures.

M.

Question on playtesting.

When exactly will the opportunity for that begin? We have a few people in the area who are backing and I'm sure we'd all be interested in doing that. I'm sure sooner rather than later wouldn't be a trouble either.

 Miguelsan wrote:
Now I¡m starting to get interested. Frankly the first offerings didn't do much for me but the building sprue and the Hunter are tickling my fancy. Hmmm.

I don't know if it's possible but a flexible pledge that allows me to get those add-ons rather than a pledge level might pull me in.
M.

As far as I understand, you could pledge $1 then add $12 and get a terrain sprue. But to get the Hunter you'll have to go in for $90 or wait till it hits retail.

Hunter looks nice. Has a great Robotech: Gladiator feel.

Is there any way to estimate what the retail prices will be if the campaign hits $50k? How about $100k?

I ask because I'd love to see this do well at retail, but I am worried about how the pricing will play out. If a hunter costs the same as a crisis suit, or a resin kit from another company, then it won't be a very attractive purchase. But if they are sold using the strength of plastic sprues' economy of scale, say in Mantic-like bundles with bigger savings per unit, they'll be very tempting.

Grey Templar wrote:So why 44mm and 52mm and not 40mm and 50mm?

Because that is the leg span of the models The art was designed before the models, then the models were designed to match the rest of the range. From here on out we can standardise on base sizes. The small base is 24/22mm (base/top), so is compatible with existing base storage options and the many decorative resin bases out there on the market already.

Stormwall wrote:Edit: How many extra 12$ allotments would I need to be able to get enough parts to replicated the building in the top left and bottom left of this image? Thanks all.

The bit on the bottom left that you can see can all be done with one sprue, but two of the large doors are used on that building if you look at it from the other side, so two sprues would be needed in total for that one (or just dont put in a door frame on the other side).

Emperors_Champion wrote:You weren't joking about a massive update! Well worth the wait and tomo I'm going to get on to a few mates who have been sitting on the fence about this!

Lukez wrote:

 Ozymandias wrote:
Just upped my pledge!

Me too, in for the double boxed set now

Corporal_Chaos wrote:I'm in. Thanks guys for the new game. Refreshing. I'm not a GW brasher and have been with 40K since Rogue Trader but I have fallen out of love with the new way of them doing things. I look forward to December !

Thanks very much guys! Your support is very much appreciated and helps us get more in to the set

Grey Templar wrote:Question on playtesting.

When exactly will the opportunity for that begin? We have a few people in the area who are backing and I'm sure we'd all be interested in doing that. I'm sure sooner rather than later wouldn't be a trouble either.

After the kickstarter - the KS is quite a timesink for us all, so the formatting and cleanup of the beta rules will not be done until then. It will be fairly soon after the KS though and we'll send out a link for the beta rules to backers who want to beta test, which will likely be a question on the post-KS backer survey.

BobtheInquisitor wrote:Is there any way to estimate what the retail prices will be if the campaign hits $50k? How about $100k?

I ask because I'd love to see this do well at retail, but I am worried about how the pricing will play out. If a hunter costs the same as a crisis suit, or a resin kit from another company, then it won't be a very attractive purchase. But if they are sold using the strength of plastic sprues' economy of scale, say in Mantic-like bundles with bigger savings per unit, they'll be very tempting.

Our final pricing will likely be between those two offerings. They'll certainly be cheaper than crisis suits as we dont have the overhead of an entire chain of stores to support, but it is too early for us to be able to give even a broad outline of prices yet - we have to get the KS out and in people's hands before we start on retail!

 legoburner wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Will he be on a base for game purposes? If so what size?

They dont need bases for the game, bases would be good for aesthetic purposes and are the $60K stretch goal.

The rules for the game use facing arcs. Doesn't that mean they do need bases?

 legoburner wrote:
After the kickstarter - the KS is quite a timesink for us all, so the formatting and cleanup of the beta rules will not be done until then. It will be fairly soon after the KS though and we'll send out a link for the beta rules to backers who want to beta test, which will likely be a question on the post-KS backer survey.

Is the beta test just for backers?