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34 hours to go...

BRING ON THE BASES!!

Added 2 more terrain sprues to my pledge. I don't get a whole lot of time to work on gaming stuff lately, but I really enjoy building terrain.

Yes, XCOM had SHIVs and the Cyberdisks had drones, but the
teaser video finally had some miniaturization going on in XCOM.

I guess XCOM finally figured out how to weaponize spy sized drones.

Though I guess this was years after Enrique Iglesias.

Too soon?

Anyway, I like the idea of linking the drone to a controller in
the field rather than to an off site guy via camera. I feel like
that gives it more personality to have them in game. King of
like in Infinity as well.

pretty sure you're in the wrong thread there malfred

 malfred wrote:
Yes, XCOM had SHIVs and the Cyberdisks had drones, but the
teaser video finally had some miniaturization going on in XCOM.

I guess XCOM finally figured out how to weaponize spy sized drones.

Though I guess this was years after Enrique Iglesias.

Too soon?

Anyway, I like the idea of linking the drone to a controller in
the field rather than to an off site guy via camera. I feel like
that gives it more personality to have them in game. King of
like in Infinity as well.

I love it as well. The idea that the drone controller is a unit, and actually gives skills or abilities to the Drones is awesome.

Tau did it somewhat, But it felt more like an excuse to make drones more costly at first, and now it simply links target data of the drone and Controller.

I would really love to see other controllers. Ones that give bots abilities, rather then just unlock pre-existing ones. But there's always future expansions!

 streamdragon wrote:
pretty sure you're in the wrong thread there malfred

Nah, making an Epirian link here. I like that there's a drone controller
in the game, and it looks like xcom2 will have them as well.

I know it's early, but I really hope we can see some sort of Epirian bounty hunter. It is a Merc Corp, so they have to have some of the best solo units in the game! ((at least they should.))

Bounty Hunters, Snipers, Sharp Shooters. I understand they are largely Drone based, as you can't have a ton of personnel and be cost effective. But certainly there has to be the 'cream of the crop'. I know there's going to be the SecDef Forces. The "Black Ops" forces.

I just want to see that wild west tech based cowboy that can walk into combat and survive on his own.

It's nice to see a big pledge push during the last 48 hours!

Someone actually pledged $5k. Congrats on whomever that was! I am honestly jealous!

I wish I had that kind of dosh to drop on this game. I can't wait to see what unit they end up sponsoring!

 Vanguard-13 wrote:
I know it's early, but I really hope we can see some sort of Epirian bounty hunter. It is a Merc Corp, so they have to have some of the best solo units in the game! ((at least they should.))

Bounty Hunters, Snipers, Sharp Shooters. I understand they are largely Drone based, as you can't have a ton of personnel and be cost effective. But certainly there has to be the 'cream of the crop'. I know there's going to be the SecDef Forces. The "Black Ops" forces.

I just want to see that wild west tech based cowboy that can walk into combat and survive on his own.

It's definitely something we'd like to do too - the main character on the Epirian side of the novels, Sheriff Kyle Wynn, is exactly that kind of individual - he used to be a 'prospector', travelling to unexplored worlds in search of rich veins of resources, and when the book starts he's a Sheriff of a backwater town, but still handy with a sniper rifle.

One of our priorities moving forward is to expand the Epirians and Karists so they have multiple play styles and army types. For the Epirians, we have several different organisation styles in mind - robotic forces supported by contractor mechanics and Bot Handlers, Freelancer armies led by Prospectors and Bounty Hunters performing missions for rich entrepreneurs and the more military-focused SecDef that gets called in when the going gets really tough. Lots of exciting things for us to start planning for!

 Vanguard-13 wrote:
Someone actually pledged $5k. Congrats on whomever that was! I am honestly jealous!

I wish I had that kind of dosh to drop on this game. I can't wait to see what unit they end up sponsoring!

Wow, shouldn't that have taken us over the 60k mark then? Or maybe it takes a while for the total to update.

 Vanguard-13 wrote:
Someone actually pledged $5k. Congrats on whomever that was! I am honestly jealous!

I wish I had that kind of dosh to drop on this game. I can't wait to see what unit they end up sponsoring!

Epirian Candy and Cola.

 Vanguard-13 wrote:
Someone actually pledged $5k. Congrats on whomever that was! I am honestly jealous!

I wish I had that kind of dosh to drop on this game. I can't wait to see what unit they end up sponsoring!

I just hope they don't end up dropping it willy-nilly later on. Some videogame kickstarter was trolled like that recently and made the geek news.

I'd wait a bit before celebrating. Big pledges have a tendency to be 'accidents'.

I don't mean to beat a dead drum, or to continue hitting a loud horse.

But I have two questions:

First: How to we request a beta copy of the rules when the KS ends? Comment section on KS? Contacting SAS on Dakka? or commenting here on the forums?

Second: Under your FAQ:

Will you provide the ability for us to choose add-ons? I want dozens of a certain model!


We are currently negotiating the specifics of this and will have a detailed update on the matter soon.

Has this been answered?

On the Beta, they said that after the KS they will send out a survey that will ask what to do with any add on money and if you want to get in on the Beta rules.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Vanguard-13 wrote:
Someone actually pledged $5k. Congrats on whomever that was! I am honestly jealous!

I wish I had that kind of dosh to drop on this game. I can't wait to see what unit they end up sponsoring!

Epirian Candy and Cola.

Let it be true! Cheesecake it up in here!

Or Alison the Twilight knight!

Did that $5k show up with the previous flurry of pledges or is it something that's held pending until it can be confirmed (i.e. legitimate vs. someone playing a bad joke/mistyping their pledge)?

Very exciting upward movement nonetheless, I dearly hope we can reach $60k and get those bases!

 Accolade wrote:
Did that $5k show up with the previous flurry of pledges or is it something that's held pending until it can be confirmed (i.e. legitimate vs. someone playing a bad joke/mistyping their pledge)?

Very exciting upward movement nonetheless, I dearly hope we can reach $60k and get those bases!

You can't hide a pledge, and you can't cancel someone's pledge.

Well there was a 1k pledge that is now gone. Possibly said person decided to up from 1k to the 5k.

Either way I hope it is not a troll pledge.... but if the backer decides to sponsor a unit of "trolls" I will be thoroughly amused

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
Did that $5k show up with the previous flurry of pledges or is it something that's held pending until it can be confirmed (i.e. legitimate vs. someone playing a bad joke/mistyping their pledge)?

Very exciting upward movement nonetheless, I dearly hope we can reach $60k and get those bases!

You can't hide a pledge, and you can't cancel someone's pledge.

Ahh gotcha, I unfortunately don't know the ins-and-outs of KS that well. In that case, I think maybe it was a move from $1k to $5k, that seems to be the most plausible change.

Hope there's more positive moment today then, would greatly like to see those bases!

 AlexHolker wrote:
Is that promotion allowed under Kickstarter's rules? I'm sure that there was another gaming Kickstarter that ran into trouble with a sweepstake for pledgers, and you can only comment if you pledge money so...

Ditto. SAS might want to look into this. I hope that this was not an off the cuff thing, and that SAS investigated the possible ramifications of this contest, because it is potentially problematic.

weeble1000 wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:
Is that promotion allowed under Kickstarter's rules? I'm sure that there was another gaming Kickstarter that ran into trouble with a sweepstake for pledgers, and you can only comment if you pledge money so...

Ditto. SAS might want to look into this. I hope that this was not an off the cuff thing, and that SAS investigated the possible ramifications of this contest, because it is potentially problematic.

Point 2 here: https://www.kickstarter.com/rules/prohibited

Specifically

Prohibited Items

We prohibit projects that are illegal, heavily regulated, or potentially dangerous for backers, as well as rewards that the creator did not make.

....

Contests, coupons, gambling, and raffles.

And, allowed or not, is it wise to flood the comments with a lot of identical fawning praise? It doesn't look good...

Then how do they get away with the 10% discount on future purchases that are promised?

KS old rules explicitly prohibited offering discounts on future products however the new rules are a lot more vague in the wording it depends how you define coupon. At any rate the KS has been a staff pick and lasted this long without issue so KS most likely don't have an issue with it.

As regards the prize draw it should be OK as well the rule is more geared towards KS that are just for a raffle or prize draw that's not allowed this is just incidental to the overall purpose of the KS.

Is anyone else in that odd position of where you really like the idea of the game, you want to support the game, but nothing about the miniatures really inspires you?

I just don't know- I really like dakka, and I like helping out dakka, but I'm just not a fan of the game. I don't really know how to express what I don't like about it.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Is anyone else in that odd position of where you really like the idea of the game, you want to support the game, but nothing about the miniatures really inspires you?

I just don't know- I really like dakka, and I like helping out dakka, but I'm just not a fan of the game. I don't really know how to express what I don't like about it.

Subscribe for the rules alone. You don't have to buy the figures.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Is anyone else in that odd position of where you really like the idea of the game, you want to support the game, but nothing about the miniatures really inspires you?

I just don't know- I really like dakka, and I like helping out dakka, but I'm just not a fan of the game. I don't really know how to express what I don't like about it.

I'm pretty much in agreement here. I like some of the models. The rules only pledge also seems a bit much for what you're getting (Though admittedly that is some of my prejudice against thin cardboard tokens/templates)

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Is anyone else in that odd position of where you really like the idea of the game, you want to support the game, but nothing about the miniatures really inspires you?

I just don't know- I really like dakka, and I like helping out dakka, but I'm just not a fan of the game. I don't really know how to express what I don't like about it.

There is a pledge for everything but the miniatures if you're interested in other aspects. The suppression tokens would look pretty awesome lined up towards your favorite minis, as if someone were strafing at them with a machine gun. The card game looks neat. If worse comes to worst, $1 gets you access to the pledge manager/terrain sprue.

The retail release is when they'll really want support, even if it is just word of mouth.


For myself, I'm in the opposite place. I love most of the minis. I'm super-excited for the drones, bots and angels. Even the minis I don't love, I have ideas for. However, I fully appreciate why others dislike or even hate the minis, and apparently express it a little too well.

Sure hope certain talks go through for some cross promotion...

 Sinful Hero wrote:
Is anyone else in that odd position of where you really like the idea of the game, you want to support the game, but nothing about the miniatures really inspires you?

I just don't know- I really like dakka, and I like helping out dakka, but I'm just not a fan of the game. I don't really know how to express what I don't like about it.

It seems to be the case with a fair number of people, pretty much like any game. I think what it comes down to (for a certain degree) is that you're only looking at two (human) factions right now. Were 40k only Space Marines versus Chaos Space Marines, there would probably be many less people playing it.

What I'm getting at is perhaps a new faction will come along that you find better fits your tastes in the future. I wouldn't feel obligated to get the KS if you don't like it, just keep an open mind (as I'm sure you do with most games tbh) and maybe offer this to other people who are looking for something that MEdge offers.