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If there's a new Knights codex as has been rumored, I'm going to be fairly upset, it wasn't too long ago that the last one came out...

Requizen wrote:
If there's a new Knights codex as has been rumored, I'm going to be fairly upset, it wasn't too long ago that the last one came out...

Yea, I was thinking this, surely they wont do a redo.

BrookM wrote:I do hope for a completely new kit with a different pose. As much as I love the Paladin / Errant kit, the fixed pose of the legs is a sad thing.

Its kinda unfortunate that GW missed that opportunity to have poseable legs with that kit. There would be a tinge of irony if this new kit, for a slow and steady moving gun platform had more dynamic poseability over the other kit. The mechanicus dragoons show how even with a static pose GW manage to pull two different poses out of that kits legs.

For some time now, GW has been trying to do as much as they can with as few sprues as they can. Hence the extremely limited options for the Knight and lack of poseability for the model. All the dual kits being released, the one piece legs on the Skitarii striders, etc. And GW has a horrible track record when it comes to properly engineering their vehicle models, anyway. They care more about making it look cool, rather than making it functional on the tabletop.

I would expect to see the exact same kit, plus a sprue that adds big guns in place of the arms/shoulders of the knight, looking more like the Crusaders shown previously in the thread.

You can hope for something better from GW, but I don't expect it.

 notprop wrote:
Oh bugger off GW; I finally caved and ordered a FW Knight, Now they're hitting me when the flood gates have finally opened.

I call foul!

Agreed. Though for me it is a Warlord titan just as FFG announced Armada Wave 2, X-Wing Wave 7, and GW comes out with the Assassins board game and now Admech Wave 2.

I'm actually not a fan of the IK model at all -- though I guess I'm in the minority. I hope this one is more to my liking.

 Talys wrote:
I'm actually not a fan of the IK model at all -- though I guess I'm in the minority. I hope this one is more to my liking.

Seems probable, as the Knight was elected the most popular model in 2014.
Which might have been motivation for GW to release another one, instead of completely outsourcing the additional knights to FW.

since the link for the avatar was probably the fw avatar, I think it's more probable that this will also be a fw kit than a new plastic kit

Good point. GW is also starting to close these loopholes in their system. Links like one of the future AdMech kits was not found anymore. Maybe already the end of datamining future releases

 SirDonlad wrote:
Im hoping for the design of the lord in house hawkwood to appear - the old warden design on the top left seems to break physics a bit much for my liking and im not a fan of torso's on tracks eigther.



i hope eldar get horse-knights so at least i can laugh hyserically at it while it removes my models from the board.

It's...it's the jazz hand that gets me with that.

EYYYYYYYY.

Nothing says "there is only WAR!" like jazz hands. FACT.

 kronk wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:

I'm hoping the Warden-Crusader combo ends up with a weapons orientation kinda like this warden, since I think the old crusader/castellan looked really off balanced

Donald Duck, the Hunch Back of Magic Kingdom.

keep in mind that the final product even is based on that could come out looking pretty cool, the general body shape could with minimal effort become something awesome.

Just for an example of something from another game...



now if the warden turned into something not too unlike the Uziel? I'd be happy

 SJM wrote:

Requizen wrote:
If there's a new Knights codex as has been rumored, I'm going to be fairly upset, it wasn't too long ago that the last one came out...

Yea, I was thinking this, surely they wont do a redo.

I'd be surprised if either the existing or new Knights made it as actual entries in any of the Mechanicus codexes. I'd not be surprised with them launching a new codex for Knights so soon, the current codex always felt rushed and has to have impacted the ongoing sales of the Knight kit.

I've avoided adding any more Knights to my Household as I knew more kits would be coming at some point. FW have the Chaos versions to do, and I would presume GW will be doing Chaos versions at some point as well so hopefully that will all be tied together.

Nice conversion mythos. That looks great.


I will say that House Mortimer's symbol is suspicious. I suspect xenos influence!

I hope there is a model with rules like the FW Castigator

The aesthetic of the Knights was never really my thing. It's one of the very few major GW releases for Imperium that I never bought, and have had no desire to purchase (even though the rules are great). However, I do love the look of many FW titans, so, there is hope yet.

 SJM wrote:

Requizen wrote:
If there's a new Knights codex as has been rumored, I'm going to be fairly upset, it wasn't too long ago that the last one came out...

Yea, I was thinking this, surely they wont do a redo.

Since the old one had 7 pages of rules, a 50% increase in size would bring it to a whole 10 pages! 11, if you round up.

This was the single silliest "Codex" that GW ever printed. The only reason I ever bought one is that all of my friends wanted to photocopy like... 3 pages from it >.<

 Talys wrote:
.....This was the single silliest "Codex" that GW ever printed. The only reason I ever bought one is that all of my friends wanted to photocopy like... 3 pages from it >.<

I bought the codex and even now still do not own a Knight. I don't regret the purchase though as to be fair it is a beautifully illustrated book, the rules are almost inconsequential, almost.

 notprop wrote:

 Talys wrote:
.....This was the single silliest "Codex" that GW ever printed. The only reason I ever bought one is that all of my friends wanted to photocopy like... 3 pages from it >.<

I bought the codex and even now still do not own a Knight. I don't regret the purchase though as to be fair it is a beautifully illustrated book, the rules are almost inconsequential, almost.

it also had some fun lore to it too

Spotted this on BoLS-

New Imperial Knight Details!

Posted by Larry Vela at April 23, 2015

knight-1011

2 new Imperial Knights are headed our way. Here’s what we know:

The two new Knights are the:
Crusader
Warden

WD181-Imperial-Knights-2

Both of these product pages have been spotted on the GW site via the redirect method by Atia on B&C.

These two types of Knights from way back in the EPIC days are the opposite end of the scale from the light and nimble Knight Lancers. These are the bruisers of the Knight Family, and is shows:

Onto the rumors:

via Bird in the Trees

Both Knights are coming via a combined combo kit.
Plastic kit will be released in the short-term, but the exact week is unknown.
The Warden & Crusader will share White Dwarf only rules initially, with inclusion in a codex coming later.
The new designs do not share the “turtle shell” carapace, and have a divergent appearance.
Both models share an up-armored, brutal appearance compared to the Paladin/Errant model.
Both share three weapon hardpoints, 2 arms and a top carapace mount.
Both new Knights share a Heavy Support position in a Imperial Knights army list.
Expect an Imperial Knights “Decurion” formation to be arriving with the new kits.

Heavy.. support..? Odd that, last time I checked the Imperial Kniggit list does not have such things.

Expect more ranged D from these two. Thats my guess anyway, give Eldar ranged D LoW fallowed shortly after by the Imperium.

 BrookM wrote:
Heavy.. support..? Odd that, last time I checked the Imperial Kniggit list does not have such things.

Maybe he means like with the FW knights where you can't have more of the variants than you have other knights.

 BrookM wrote:
Heavy.. support..? Odd that, last time I checked the Imperial Kniggit list does not have such things.

I think that was more a description of battlefield role. GW doesn't care about the FOC anymore.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Expect more ranged D from these two. Thats my guess anyway, give Eldar ranged D LoW fallowed shortly after by the Imperium.

Truth!

The last seal has been broken.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Heavy.. support..? Odd that, last time I checked the Imperial Kniggit list does not have such things.

I think that was more a description of battlefield role. GW doesn't care about the FOC anymore.

And Vela just speculates off of previous information to make up rumors. I wouldn't put too much into it.

 pretre wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Heavy.. support..? Odd that, last time I checked the Imperial Kniggit list does not have such things.

I think that was more a description of battlefield role. GW doesn't care about the FOC anymore.

And Vela just speculates off of previous information to make up rumors. I wouldn't put too much into it.

Your absolutely right there but honestly I think it's a pretty safe to expect.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Heavy.. support..? Odd that, last time I checked the Imperial Kniggit list does not have such things.

I think that was more a description of battlefield role. GW doesn't care about the FOC anymore.

And Vela just speculates off of previous information to make up rumors. I wouldn't put too much into it.

Your absolutely right there but honestly I think it's a pretty safe to expect.

That's his bread and butter. He's pretty decent at anticipating based on past data. Horrible at rumors, but good at anticipation.

We're beginning to see so many D weapons that I suspect they'll soon be seen as underpowered and not special enough

I expect a new more powerful Super-Destroyer weapon to appear soon

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
We're beginning to see so many D weapons that I suspect they'll soon be seen as underpowered and not special enough

I expect a new more powerful Super-Destroyer weapon to appear soon

Indeed. Forcing in general use of Str D weapons just show the limits of the underlying game system. Though, have a look at the Banesword rules - that's armed with a Quake Cannon - should be able to glean rules from that

I just hope if this is the direction we're going that they expand each army to have their own assortment of them.

I don't want to have to bring in allies or weird attachments to get access to things that each army should have.

Saw this on BoLS!

via Bird in the Trees
•Both Knights are coming via a combined combo kit.
•Plastic kit will be released in the short-term, but the exact week is unknown.
•The Warden & Crusader will share White Dwarf only rules initially, with inclusion in a codex coming later.
•The new designs do not share the “turtle shell” carapace, and have a divergent appearance.
•Both models share an up-armored, brutal appearance compared to the Paladin/Errant model.
•Both share three weapon hardpoints, 2 arms and a top carapace mount.
•Both new Knights share a Heavy Support position in a Imperial Knights army list.
•Expect an Imperial Knights “Decurion” formation to be arriving with the new kits.

No turtle shell carapace and an "up-armored brutal appearance"!!! Maybe I will get some Knights at lat

I was not a fan of the turtle on spindly legs look (although, BrianDavion, you are totally right, it was the Readers' model of the year, so obviously just me )

We can only hope....



(this is the Thunderhawk-priced Mars Pattern Reaver Titan)