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I'm hoping they FAQ the adamantium lance so any variant can be used rather than just errant's and paladin's.

whether its the best loadout or not, i current see my warlord being a fist, gattling and stormspear rocket alongside two errants with those rockets as well.

gonna need as much str 8 ap3 as possible to take on those wraithknights.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Talys wrote:

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Cheers for that Adam Souza, nice deduction on Gerantius. He has some pretty nifty special rules (the improved invun save and run and shoot could be great) and an excellent colour scheme. I am interested to see whether people think if he is worth the points or not.

I definitely want to add a new Knight or two to my collection as a result of this release.

I remember seeing him and thinking he was overcosted :(

+130 points for a bump in BS and WS, 3+ Inv instead of 4+, the ability to run and shoot, and It Will Not Die is a pretty good deal.

The Seneschal in HH Book IV is 50 points for the bump in WS, BS and invulnerable, another 80 points for the rest seems a little pricey.

Plus, the Seneschal gets a reroll on the Warlord table as well, which doubles your chances at getting the It Will Not Die trait.

 Looky Likey wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Talys wrote:

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Cheers for that Adam Souza, nice deduction on Gerantius. He has some pretty nifty special rules (the improved invun save and run and shoot could be great) and an excellent colour scheme. I am interested to see whether people think if he is worth the points or not.

I definitely want to add a new Knight or two to my collection as a result of this release.

I remember seeing him and thinking he was overcosted :(

+130 points for a bump in BS and WS, 3+ Inv instead of 4+, the ability to run and shoot, and It Will Not Die is a pretty good deal.

The Seneschal in HH Book IV is 50 points for the bump in WS, BS and invulnerable, another 80 points for the rest seems a little pricey.

Currently in the IK dex one knight is upgraded to seneschal for free if they are you are primary detachment. so really you are paying 130 points for IWND, rerolls of 1's on stomps and the ability to run and shoot in same phase.

i'm not convinced he's worth it it.

Just realised this means you can do the Melta-Cannon/Power Fist like it's meant to be.

Now we just need Blackadder to produce some Carapace Conversion Kits to match old Epic model look to weapon loadout...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Just realised this means you can do the Melta-Cannon/Power Fist like it's meant to be.

Aye, and with the new head, we can finally run them as they are meant to be:




So, what Knights are left to be produced? The Castellan, which better have a Quake Cannon as well as a fancy pants Baron. There's also the Knight Centurion and Knight Praetorian as well, but as they were Citadel Journal rules, probably doubtful...

I sense magnets.....Magnets everywhere!!!

 SJM wrote:
I sense magnets.....Magnets everywhere!!!

Yeah. If it turns out you can build all 5 variants from the kit, I might just be pushed over the edge. I already have a Dreamforge Levi, but the option to run so many different setups is tempting.

 Paradigm wrote:

 SJM wrote:
I sense magnets.....Magnets everywhere!!!

Yeah. If it turns out you can build all 5 variants from the kit, I might just be pushed over the edge. I already have a Dreamforge Levi, but the option to run so many different setups is tempting.

You and me both mate. Holy crap I REALLY REALLY want a Knight now lol. Hmm all those lovely weapon options to pick from.. Plus plenty of spare bits to make big nasty weapons emplacements with too!

Seems like this is the Knight codex I wanted a year ago, I'm guessing I'd be making Knights know instead of Orks if it was.

More pics - From http://www.warhammer-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=230714&page=6#entry2739838


The models benefit from the larger variety of parts

Any one else find that the missile pods look 'right' but the autocannons don't?
Anyway, just bought a bunch of magnets just to restock. Glad I did. + glad I haven't put my 1st knight together yet!

 SJM wrote:
Seems like this is the Knight codex I wanted a year ago, I'm guessing I'd be making Knights know instead of Orks if it was.

Agreed - feels like a much more complete range now, I'm going to have to start saving up...

Warhams-77 wrote:
The models benefit from the larger variety of parts

I just can't get over the legs unfortunately.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hey look at that. WD-only DLC.

That came out with "The Red Waagh". I would be surprised if they didn't put him into the codex.

Looks like some more new face plates in that last picture.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
The models benefit from the larger variety of parts

I just can't get over the legs unfortunately.

That's what clippers and hobby knowhow is for surely?

 angelofvengeance wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
The models benefit from the larger variety of parts

I just can't get over the legs unfortunately.

That's what clippers and hobby knowhow is for surely?

It's a lot more work than I'm willing to put in unfortunately

 angelofvengeance wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
The models benefit from the larger variety of parts

I just can't get over the legs unfortunately.

That's what clippers and hobby knowhow is for surely?

It is possible to repose the Knight legs, but they're not easy to do, especially with all the hoses and hydraulic rams etc to line up.

Strangely, the FW Cerastus legs are infinitely more poseable, so it isn't like it's impossible to design a kit that allows it.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hey look at that. WD-only DLC.

That came out with "The Red Waagh". I would be surprised if they didn't put him into the codex.

There's Gerantius, The Forgotten Knight, and also the Obsidian Knight (from the Damocles Apocalypse Warzone book). That'd give you two named "special characters", plus the adamantium lance as one formation, and possibly a seperate formation for the 'artillery support knights' - who shouldn't, after all, be leading a charge.

Add in some relic-type-things and you've got something resembling a pretty open-ended army.
My one pet bugbear is that the (admittedly really pretty) avenger cannon strikes me as better than a warhound's vulcan mega-bolter thanks to rending.

I do like to see knights get some more 'screen time' - I love the models and they make for a very dramatic army in game. I just with the Tyranid Hierodule was a bit closer to being able to compete...

I'm glad there are some new helmets. I was bisecting and reassembling halves to make new ones.

The AA turret looks poorly thought out... It seems like it'd have been easier just to give us another type of missile to do the same thing. Or even just putting it on a bigger gimbal and hang it to the opposite side as the heavy stubber.

As a number people have pointed out... I'm happy I can give my errant knight a fist. Now I just wish my warden could have a gatling gun on each arm and a missile launcher; also the crusader should have a quake cannon.

I see a House Griffith Knight... this rekindles my hopes for them re-releasing the LE Knight decals or just providing the damn things in the new kit.

I'm loving the new face plates, definitely need to get myself one of these to make myself a Warden and to add a missile pod to my Errant.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
The models benefit from the larger variety of parts

I just can't get over the legs unfortunately.

That's what clippers and hobby knowhow is for surely?

It is possible to repose the Knight legs, but they're not easy to do, especially with all the hoses and hydraulic rams etc to line up.

Strangely, the FW Cerastus legs are infinitely more poseable, so it isn't like it's impossible to design a kit that allows it.

I haven't seen one in person, but from the looks of things the Cerastus looks harder to assemble, though in this case I think it's probably worth the effort. I imagine that's why GW didn't do it with the plastic legs though, they didn't want people having to cut the hydraulics to length like you have to do on the FW variant.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
The models benefit from the larger variety of parts

I just can't get over the legs unfortunately.

That's what clippers and hobby knowhow is for surely?

It's a £95 kit, I don't want to risk carving it up to change the leg pose.

I love everything they've added but I can't get past the legs either. A Knight house would look awesome, but not all with the exact same pose. As Azrael said, the FW ones are all poseable so it's not like it can't be done, and really at £95 should you really have to be cutting it up to pose it?

 Azreal13 wrote:
Strangely, the FW Cerastus legs are infinitely more poseable, so it isn't like it's impossible to design a kit that allows it.

It's a lot easier when you don't have to worry about sprue real estate.

Regardless, it's super disappointing that this is just an upgrade sprue. It should have been a complete new kit for the Warden and something else, with new legs and arms compatible with the old kit. The Gallant and Crusader should have been conversions only possible by using both boxes, but GW is allergic to conversions nowadays.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
The models benefit from the larger variety of parts

I just can't get over the legs unfortunately.

That's what clippers and hobby knowhow is for surely?

It is possible to repose the Knight legs, but they're not easy to do, especially with all the hoses and hydraulic rams etc to line up.

Strangely, the FW Cerastus legs are infinitely more poseable, so it isn't like it's impossible to design a kit that allows it.

I haven't seen one in person, but from the looks of things the Cerastus looks harder to assemble, though in this case I think it's probably worth the effort. I imagine that's why GW didn't do it with the plastic legs though, they didn't want people having to cut the hydraulics to length like you have to do on the FW variant.

I haven't seen one in person either but it only looks harder to assemble in as much as any resin kit is a bit harder to assemble than plastic ones. More time needed to prepare it, and you have to bend the weapon feeds etc and as you say cut the pistons. But the GW kit is at a price where really it should be more poseable than it is.

Even if there'd been a different set of legs with this one, I could live with that.

The Cerastus I built was a breeze. I wish that GW had put that amount of effort into leg posing! A shame they didn't, given their "model company" emphasis nowadays.

To be honest, I found the Cerastus Knights easier to assemble. They are more posable, and you have to take that into acount when you are doing the pistons, but there are less tiny fidly bits than the plastic IK kits.