Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Curious to the lack of chatter on D-Cannons.
With Strength D blasts at 55 points a shot, they seem like an awesome area deterrent weapon.
Coupled with a Glaive Wraith Knight and scatter bikes, I would think you've got all your bases covered.
If you don't close in, you're in a long range shoot out against massed scatter lasers.
If you do move in, you're dealing with a lot of D blasts.
If you get too close, you're fighting a 300 point D monster.

1,111 points gives you 18 scatter bikes (6 units of 3) 6 distort cannons (3 batteries of 2) and the Lord of War Wraith Knight with Glaive (because everyone loves 3+/5++ FnP with Init 5 D combat attacks)
Then, with a strait face, you tell your opponent that it's fair because you've restrained yourself to only using a CAD.

-Matt

The thing is, they are so inherently horrible, I think most people are assuming they will be banned outright.

Aren't ranged-D weapons banned in the ITC format?

Also, the word you're looking for is villains. The current codex is making people yearn for the days when all you had to worry about were wave serpents (because that's all your opponent brought anyway).

They're pretty scary (especially given T7 vs shooting on artillery), nobody's bitching because most of the rest of the Codex is worse.

I wouldn't say that. I think a Stormlord would wreck bike spam if you can keep the Str D guns from hitting. Heck, a couple LR (either Land Raiders or Lehman Russes) could counter S6 spam. Once you allow multiple D weapons, 200+ pt vehicles are unlikely to be worth it.

Flyer spam ignore blasts. Guess we'll be seeing more Flyers. Thanks, Obama!

SJ

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
Flyer spam ignore blasts. Guess we'll be seeing more Flyers. Thanks, Obama!

SJ

shhh, you're not supposed to tell people that Games workshop is secretly under the control of the White House

They are utter broken filth for 165 for 3 of them. Expect to see most competitive lists run 6-9 of them since they are that good.

Why units of 2 D-cannons instead of 3?

 extremefreak17 wrote:
Why units of 2 D-cannons instead of 3?

Break tests.
2 Cannons is easier to hide, and just as effective.
And, it leaves just enough points to squeeze in 2 units of Wraith Scythes, 2 wave serpents and a farseer.

Yeah the D-Cannon is pretty amazing now. Two will kill most vehicles on average, outside of super heavy vehicles, and will splat infantry of any kind at a good rate for their relative cost.

its only weakness being that it cannot target/affect flyers [FMC as well in ITC format..]

Not much of a weakness, I hear the crimson hunter formation is pretty awesome.

True d cannons splat infantry but they always did with s10 ap2 its only against vehicals th'eve really gotten better remember only on 6 will it ignore cover and invuns so even vehicales can get a save(jink /smoke etc)vs most hits.