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**Skinnereal**

Isn't there a new campaign box set due around then? DA V Tzeentch, I heard.
If the timing puts it a week or two apart, I expect a single "Space Marines of all chapters" book, like they have (re)done with Eldar.

**Yodhrin**

Slayer le boucher wrote:
jSewell wrote:
As an Iron Hands lover, I'm stoked for squadron predators

And why's that?, you will loose your IH supplement just like Iyanden went into the sewers once the new Eldar dex came out.

Good. The sooner that atrocity against the chapter is gone from memory the better.

**Crazyterran**

I don't know if it means anything, but part of my web order today contained a pin that had the roman numeral one on top of a double headed side ways arrow.

I know the Codex Astartes has that as a valid tactical marine symbol, but I've only ever really seen it painted/sculpted on Dark Angel marines.

EDIT: Picture http://tinypic.com/r/20i8ajq/8

**casvalremdeikun**

I really hope they make some changes to Pedro Kantor. For one, he should have Artificer Armor. It doesn't make sense that he can get a squad of Honour Guard that have better armor than him. Also, he should have Eternal Warrior. Dude has been Chapter Master for several centuries, he should have EW.

**Formosa**

no he shouldnt, otherwise all chaos characters should have EW, ALL of them

**pities2004**

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?407604-Warhammer-9th-Edition-Roundup-Discussion-%28Reloaded%29&p=7439651#post7439651

Rumors show 9th Edition Fantasy launching June 13th

**Olgerth Istaarn**

Eh, I personally think every unique named character of every army deserves to have EW. It might not be terribly realistic ("...and then Lord Solar Macharius took a lascannon blast to the face and said, "it ruined my hairdo!"), but it makes sense since all unique named characters are storied warlords. It could represent the character's outright toughness or his luck or his survival skills.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Olgerth Istaarn wrote:
Eh, I personally think every unique named character of every army deserves to have EW. It might not be terribly realistic ("...and then Lord Solar Macharius took a lascannon blast to the face and said, "it ruined my hairdo!"), but it makes sense since all unique named characters are storied warlords. It could represent the character's outright toughness or his luck or his survival skills.

I'd go for an alternative: Named characters are presumed injured (not dead) when removed from the board , so award no 'kill' points unless killed by another named character

**Median Trace**

rybackstun wrote:
As someone who has only ever played BTs, a new SM codex is making me really happy right now.

:/

I wouldn't read the latest rumors man.

**jSewell**

Median Trace wrote:
rybackstun wrote:
As someone who has only ever played BTs, a new SM codex is making me really happy right now.

:/

I wouldn't read the latest rumors man.

Ouch, just read those =/

The Iron Hands character sounds cool.

Think I'd rather have a Pask-like tank HQ for Iron Hands though

**SharkoutofWata**

But, I atleast can breathe easier. Looks like Chapter Tactics are still staying. I'd be interested in what those rumored 'chapter detachments' restrictions will be. If I can run alternate tactics with 'White Scar Hunting Party' or if it's just what it sounds. White Scar only. But, a lack of Iron Hands detachment rumors might mean Raukaan will still work fine.

**Theophony**

Probably just a recut of the rhino and land raider molds to equip the spruces to carry a grav weapon. Then the space wolves will be updated to have a frost rhino (ice cream truck) that no other chapter will have. Of course the dark Angels will have come out prior to this book so they won't have access to it even though they supposedly have all sorts of technology that they have tucked away in the closet.

**Talys**

Theophony wrote:
Probably just a recut of the rhino and land raider molds to equip the spruces to carry a grav weapon. Then the space wolves will be updated to have a frost rhino (ice cream truck) that no other chapter will have. Of course the dark Angels will have come out prior to this book so they won't have access to it even though they supposedly have all sorts of technology that they have tucked away in the closet.

Quad grav cannon arrays with grav amps. I'm in!

**Ratius**

Isn't there a new campaign box set due around then? DA V Tzeentch, I heard.

Maybe

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/646946.page

**rybackstun**

jSewell wrote:
Median Trace wrote:
rybackstun wrote:
As someone who has only ever played BTs, a new SM codex is making me really happy right now.

:/

I wouldn't read the latest rumors man.

Ouch, just read those =/

The Iron Hands character sounds cool.

Think I'd rather have a Pask-like tank HQ for Iron Hands though

I've only read this thread for rumors and I haven't seen anything BT related. Source?

**jSewell**

rybackstun wrote:
jSewell wrote:
Median Trace wrote:
rybackstun wrote:
As someone who has only ever played BTs, a new SM codex is making me really happy right now.

:/

I wouldn't read the latest rumors man.

Ouch, just read those =/

The Iron Hands character sounds cool.

Think I'd rather have a Pask-like tank HQ for Iron Hands though

I've only read this thread for rumors and I haven't seen anything BT related. Source?

Latest rumors:
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2015/05/space-marine-rule-updates-for-coming.html

**rybackstun**

Haha, holy crap. Thanks for that. Hoping that specific bit isn't true though.

**uk_crow**

I hope the raven guard formation is decent, good to see my chapter getting more and more love from GW and FW.

**Jambles**

I really don't think they're going to get rid of Black Templars entirely. After all, they've pretty much got their own model line.

How about this for a positive spin - maybe this means they're getting their own codex again!

**Brother SRM**

I can't see them allowing speeders to be attached to Biker squads again. That was a rules quagmire and they intentionally removed it from the DA book. Pretty telling that the related stories at the bottom of that article pointed to Brettonians coming out in June 2014

**warboss**

Ughh.. so they brought the templars back into the vanilla codex only to split them off two years later? Ughh... so much fail in such little time. It feels like GW is just throwing wet toilet paper balls onto the wall (the player base) to see what sticks. Unfortunately for us, they don't seem to have limited themselves to unused toliet paper only.

**rybackstun**

Jambles wrote:
I really don't think they're going to get rid of Black Templars entirely. After all, they've pretty much got their own model line.

How about this for a positive spin - maybe this means they're getting their own codex again!

For sure, that would be an amazing turn of events, but as of late I have come to expect GW to not do the thing that makes their customers happy.

They could make us a Supplement which would make the whole thing cost $80+ and may not give us everything we really want for a book. They could make a Skitarii/Harlequin style book which actually could give us everything we want. Or they could pop a full Codex like in 4th and give us a lot of our identity back.

Options 2 or 3 would be my pick (Option 2 I think might actually be the best for all parties) but, quite literally, anything could happen.

I won't hold out hope, but I'll admit I'm wrong if they do end up doing the right thing

**Verviedi**

Naftka wrote:

The Space Marine codex is due according to rumors in early June, and some information is being talked about that gives us some insight to the what might be in that codex. Here is the latest Space Marine Information.

Please remember that these are rumors.

via Steve the Warboss on Faeit 212
My sources tell me the following content for the coming SM Codex:

Rules
-Chapter Tactics remains
-Chapter Tactics unlock Characters and exclusive Relics
-Black Templar are gone
-Legion of the Damned are gone

Space Marine Captain
-5 points cheaper
-Chapter Master is now a upgrade for the captain

Maneus Calgar
-Is now a Lord of War

Iron Hands Character
-New Character
-Special Thunder Hammer with Area Damage
-Melta and Flamer combined Weapon

Space Marine Librarian
-Lexicanium is the base profile
-5 points cheaper
-Can be upgraded to a Codicier or a Episolary

Space Marine Command Squad
-Bike or Jump Pack option remains
-Honour Guard is gone

Terminator Command Squad
-Only when a Terminator Captain is in the Dettachment
-3 to 9 Terminators

Tactical Squad
-1 point cheaper per Marine

Land Speeder
-Can join Units with Bikes when the LS Squadron includes only one Model

Tanks
-Predators, Vindicators and Whirlwinds can form Squadrons of 1-3 Tanks
-No Land Raider Squadrons in the Codex
-Land Raider Redeemer and Crusade are Fast Attack

Dettachments
-Three in one Codex
-Codex Astartes Battle Company
-Raven Guard Strike Squadron
-White Scars Hunting Party

**pretre**

Steve the Warboss. Ugh.

**Anpu42**

Well, I like what I see

**RedFox**

Black Templars are not going anywhere...if anything they'll have their own codex again or a supplement of some sort

anyway this is not coming from a reliable source at all

**Red Corsair**

pretre wrote:
Steve the Warboss. Ugh.

I know right....

Most of whats on that list is recycled or obvious.

Then there are the few salty as all feth items he tossed onto the heap.

**Slayer le boucher**

Redeemers and crusaders are FA?...the feth?!...

So you can now have 6 LR in an army, assuming the guy don't take 3x3 termies just to had 3 more LR...

And CSM LR are still limited to 10 models...

**NewTruthNeomaxim**

Is it just me, or is any excitement over getting more LR's into a list moot, until they justify their cost as it is?

I never see people field LR in a competitive setting. Between new Eldar, Skitarii having Haywire all over the place, Melta Dominions, etc... I feel like LRs are super expensive chassis for a few Lascannons.

Their whole value was durability... before half of the armies in the game could just laugh at said durability.

**Anpu42**

Slayer le boucher wrote:
Redeemers and crusaders are FA?...the feth?!...

So you can now have 6 LR in an army, assuming the guy don't take 3x3 termies just to had 3 more LR...

And CSM LR are still limited to 10 models...

No it's Three LRCs and 9 Vindicators.