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Will these upgrade packs be web only or also available in store? Can't really see the difference anymore on the gw website.

I don't know if someone noticed before, but the terminator squad have two heavy weapon per squad (one AC and one cyclone missiles launcher here),while being 5 per squad:

http://www.games-workshop.com/fr-FR/1st-Company-Task-Force

Oh man, if Terminators are getting 2/5...then Deathwing might have just gotten a huge boost.

I'm not sure. If you look at the individual squad pic, there's only 1 heavy weapon shown.

yes, I truly hope this is indeed the case. I could see it being 1 PC, AC or HF per sqd of 5 with a Cyclone being an additional add-on since it doesn't replace the SB.

 Kanluwen wrote:
What's interesting is that the shoulderpads aren't just "generic Chapter" shoulderpads in the case of Space Wolves. It's specific to Ragnar Blackmane's Great Company.

Ragnar's icon is as close as you get to a "generic Space Wolves" icon. Firstly because SW wear the company symbol rather than the chapter symbol and GW has used Ragnar's company as the "generic" company since 2nd edition. Also because the chapter symbol basically is just Ragnar's symbol, a standard Wolf's head. I think Leman Russ's symbol was the blackmaned wolf as well?

 godardc wrote:
I don't know if someone noticed before, but the terminator squad have two heavy weapon per squad (one AC and one typhoon missiles launcher here),while being 5 per squad:

http://www.games-workshop.com/fr-FR/1st-Company-Task-Force

Or they just built the squads not according to rules but according to what is possible to make with the kit...

 Kanluwen wrote:
Oh man, if Terminators are getting 2/5...then Deathwing might have just gotten a huge boost.

You never know. They could get the Jetbike treatment (any unit can take...).

Then I could do something with my five bazillionteen painted terminators. and eleven bazillionteen terminators still on the sprue.

If tactical terminators could take a CML and and Assault Cannon and somehow get split fire, they would be actually worth their points. Especially if they get flank missiles for free.

And the pre-orders are up on the US site. It all looks pretty reasonable to me. Plenty of things to pick up soon.

 Kosake wrote:

 godardc wrote:
I don't know if someone noticed before, but the terminator squad have two heavy weapon per squad (one AC and one typhoon missiles launcher here),while being 5 per squad:

http://www.games-workshop.com/fr-FR/1st-Company-Task-Force

Or they just built the squads not according to rules but according to what is possible to make with the kit...

I never noticed GW's pictures showing "illegal" squad/models (according to the rules), but I can be wrong, and if you look the old terminator squad's picture, only one of them has an heavy weapon.
The picture of the 1st Company Task Force is new, and all the other squad have a "legal" gear.

 godardc wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 godardc wrote:
I don't know if someone noticed before, but the terminator squad have two heavy weapon per squad (one AC and one typhoon missiles launcher here),while being 5 per squad:

http://www.games-workshop.com/fr-FR/1st-Company-Task-Force

Or they just built the squads not according to rules but according to what is possible to make with the kit...

I never noticed GW's pictures showing "illegal" squad/models (according to the rules), but I can be wrong, and if you look the old terminator squad's picture, only one of them has an heavy weapon.
The picture of the 1st Company Task Force is new, and all the other squad have a "legal" gear.

When Harlequins came out GW offered a web bundle that had 2 Solitaries which are Unique. It would be like offering a web bundle with Marneus Calgars.

So GW does sometimes put up illegal (rulewise) combos.

On the subject of eviscerators, I am very pleased. They're one of my favourite weapons in the background.

The Sisters models that have them are so old as to be from roughly the same time as when Kroot had them, so I don't think there's ever been a time when they were unique to Sisters.

Lets see, third edition... I had two assault cannons per squad of dw terminators. I also had a terminators chaplain with tllc. That ended with me breaking my finely painted minis because they changed their armament in fourth.

I would live to see two heavies, but don't think it would last with the boost it gives (esp. with split fire). Be prepared to break your models, update them, and break them again in two years if you didn't magnetized them! ( happily I learned that art and have been doing so ever since!)

 MrFlutterPie wrote:

 godardc wrote:

 Kosake wrote:

 godardc wrote:
I don't know if someone noticed before, but the terminator squad have two heavy weapon per squad (one AC and one typhoon missiles launcher here),while being 5 per squad:

http://www.games-workshop.com/fr-FR/1st-Company-Task-Force

Or they just built the squads not according to rules but according to what is possible to make with the kit...

I never noticed GW's pictures showing "illegal" squad/models (according to the rules), but I can be wrong, and if you look the old terminator squad's picture, only one of them has an heavy weapon.
The picture of the 1st Company Task Force is new, and all the other squad have a "legal" gear.

When Harlequins came out GW offered a web bundle that had 2 Solitaries which are Unique. It would be like offering a web bundle with Marneus Calgars.

So GW does sometimes put up illegal (rulewise) combos.

My bad ! I hope they won't do it this way^^

If they allow BA Assault Sergents to take an Evicerator, I will get a kit. Of only C:SM can, I don't think I will get them as my CF have plenty of other FA. I hope that if the rumors are true regarding CML, TML, and ML Devs that it retroactively affects Blood Angels. The fact that C:SM apparently has formations for all Space Marine chapters gives me hope.

IronBars wrote:
Will these upgrade packs be web only or also available in store? Can't really see the difference anymore on the gw website.

Online only I think?

B&C's got Devastator and Codex images:

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308447-new-space-marine-releases-wd-leaks-devastator-more/

£50 for a 10 man Assault Squad???

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Ten-Man-Assault-Squad

Here you go folks





Very nice!!

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The Devs look nice enough, but I quite honestly had no problem with the old kit.

Interesting to see Battleforces make a comeback, but the content (especially the DA one) is pretty low. Might be made up for on savings, though.

36 bucks for a 5 man dev squad.. nuts

Those new Devastators=Awesome. They have the chunky feet I was hoping for, pretty new guns and just a bunch of cool bits. No complaints from me here...

Oh and the missile being launched is perfect!

 angelofvengeance wrote:
36 bucks for a 5 man dev squad.. nuts

€36, so £25 same as the Assault Squad. The Battleforces are about £50-55, so in the UM/BA ones, it basically means the Captain is free. I still don't see the value in the DA one, seeing as the bikes are hideously operpriced to begin with.

Devs look awesome! Love the legs!!!!!!!!

Looks like another rumor ( older marks of armor in Devs release) down the drain.

Grav cannon......hmmm....

Now if only Marines could be given Immolators......

Just noticed the Devs all have optical attachments on the helmets, which is cool.

I guess the value in the set is there if they are two of each Heavy, but one of each would be a huge step backward.

€80,- for those "Battleforces"?

 Paradigm wrote:
Just noticed the Devs all have optical attachments on the helmets, which is cool.

I guess the value in the set is there if they are two of each Heavy, but one of each would be a huge step backward.

Forgive me, my brain is a little fried today!

Just noticed how some of the guns have holes in the barrels - that's pretty cool, I guess.

General Hobbs wrote:



Devs look awesome! Love the legs!!!!!!!!

Looks like another rumor ( older marks of armor in Devs release) down the drain.

Grav cannon......hmmm....

Now if only Marines could be given Immolators......

Someone earlier in the thread was hoping they'd have the chunky 2nd edition different legs so they won't be disappointed when they pop back into the thread!