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**Nevelon**

And some of it might not even be based on formations. The Eldar tanks, for example, get their bonuses just for being taken in a squadron. One HS pick gets you 1-3 tanks, and if you happen to take 3, you get the special bonus.

I expect the SM tanks to have the same thing. There will probably be an entry for the formation/sub-formation thing where you can take a squadron of tanks as one of your picks. Again, like the Eldar.

**Talizvar**

Funny if the Vindicator formation pans out: that was an Apocalypse formation with that same rule.
It really is like they are trying to make 40k into the original Apocalypse including "field every model you have".

Waiting for kronk and my reaction to any BT specific rules or we become generic marines.

**warboss**

Talizvar wrote:
Funny if the Vindicator formation pans out: that was an Apocalypse formation with that same rule.
It really is like they are trying to make 40k into the original Apocalypse including "field every model you have".

It is also funny that they thought for years that the added benefits of those abilities it grants were worth points in the past but now with NuBalance is free as long as you spend $$$.

**whembly**

Talizvar wrote:
Funny if the Vindicator formation pans out: that was an Apocalypse formation with that same rule.
It really is like they are trying to make 40k into the original Apocalypse including "field every model you have".

Waiting for kronk and my reaction to any BT specific rules or we become generic marines.

Man if that's true, you'll start seeing resurgences of psyckers fishing for invisibility ever more.

**BlaxicanX**

Strength 10AP2 ignores cover apocalyptic blasts... this is what the game needs more of.

I mean, I guess with the D being whipped around it's to be expected at this point, but man.

That said it's not too overpowered, 24' range on a non-fast 13/11/10 vehicle is pretty tame.

**Desubot**

BlaxicanX wrote:
Strength 10AP2 ignores cover apocalyptic blasts... this is what the game needs more of.

I mean, I guess with the D being whipped around it's to be expected at this point, but man.

That said it's not too overpowered, 24' range and as worded you need only kill a single vindicator to shut it down.

Sounds like the kind of thing you want to chuck in reserves and pop it out when its needed using bait.

With all the dumb jinking nonsense around i have no issue with this.

**BlaxicanX**

How many boyz in a greentide can you fit under one apoc blast, I wonder? I'll have to find out.

**Desubot**

BlaxicanX wrote:
How many boyz in a greentide can you fit under one apoc blast, I wonder? I'll have to find out.

Better Line em up instead of blobing em

**Requizen**

whembly wrote:
Talizvar wrote:
Funny if the Vindicator formation pans out: that was an Apocalypse formation with that same rule.
It really is like they are trying to make 40k into the original Apocalypse including "field every model you have".

Waiting for kronk and my reaction to any BT specific rules or we become generic marines.

Man if that's true, you'll start seeing resurgences of psyckers fishing for invisibility ever more.

Inadvertent buff to Be'Lakor

**BlaxicanX**

No one's going to be fishing for invisibility on the off-chance that they fight a tri-vindi list, lol.

**Colpicklejar**

Killing one vindicator would take out the ability to do the mega attack though, right?

**Talys**

BlaxicanX wrote:
No one's going to be fishing for invisibility on the off-chance that they fight a tri-vindi list, lol.

Haven't you heard? The solution to every new thing that comes out is, "Invisibility!"

But I think that Thunderwolf Cavalry and Fenrisian Wolves should get Ignore Invisibility. Oh, yeah, and Santa Sleigh. Canines, after all, have a superb sense of smell!

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Colpicklejar wrote:
Killing one vindicator would take out the ability to do the mega attack though, right?

Yuppers.

**Desubot**

Colpicklejar wrote:
Killing one vindicator would take out the ability to do the mega attack though, right?

No one knows yet.

Well its a rumor. so nothing hastily camera phone pictured yet.

**Azreal13**

BlaxicanX wrote:
No one's going to be fishing for invisibility on the off-chance that they fight a tri-vindi list, lol.

No, they're going to be fishing for it because it's about the most broken power in the game.

**Requizen**

Desubot wrote:
Colpicklejar wrote:
Killing one vindicator would take out the ability to do the mega attack though, right?

No one knows yet.

Well its a rumor. so nothing hastily camera phone pictured yet.

I wonder how blurry our first pics will be? I'm voting somewhere between "sorta clear milk" and "taken during an earthquake"

**Desubot**

Requizen wrote:
Desubot wrote:
Colpicklejar wrote:
Killing one vindicator would take out the ability to do the mega attack though, right?

No one knows yet.

Well its a rumor. so nothing hastily camera phone pictured yet.

I wonder how blurry our first pics will be? I'm voting somewhere between "sorta clear milk" and "taken during an earthquake"

I put my vote on JJ Abrams level of Glare and lens flair.

**Yodhrin**

I just want to know if we can take transports in squadrons as well

**SickSix**

Land Raider formation confirmed by NZ preorder!

**rollawaythestone**

SickSix wrote:
Land Raider formation confirmed by NZ preorder!

Ahhh! It's happening!

For some reason that Battle-demi company picture looks really awful. Like badly painted or something for the GW standard. Is it just me?

**RedFox**

wow the LE successor chapter cover represent ultramarines....that's really lazy and lame

**WindsOfFury**

NZ webstore...

LOVE the new Devastators!

Also: 32mm Tactical confirmed? Thay have 32mm in the Demi-box.

**RedFox**

The Land Raider Spearhead....I'll probably base my BT army around that

**Wilson**

Dark angels with Grav. ( sorry for pointing out the obvious- please dont kill me! )

**Kanluwen**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
kronk wrote:
pretre wrote:
Mulletdude wrote:
And now my Blood Angels are officially the Dark Angels of 7th =\.

What's an appropriate successor chapter if my marines are painted like blood angels? xD

Just play BA using C:SM and call it a codex compliant company.

What he said. Play them as Codex: Adeptus Astartes.
Which would be great if not for Death Company, Sanguinary Guard, Sanguinary Priests, Furioso Dreadnoughts, and etc. I like BA because of their toys. I just wish they had their toys and rules at the level of what C:SM is shaping up to have.

And Dark Angels would have liked to have their two previous books at the level Blood Angels were at.

It's your turn to sit back and enjoy the paintrain running at you.

**Colpicklejar**

So no idea on what the formations do, just that they exist? Unless it's something really absurdly good, taking 3 land raiders is a huge waste at worst and an army-nullifying cheesewall at best.

**Desubot**

Wilson wrote:
Dark angels with Grav. ( sorry for pointing out the obvious- please dont kill me! )

Get ready to roll in

/ducks

**casvalremdeikun**

Kanluwen wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
kronk wrote:
pretre wrote:
Mulletdude wrote:
And now my Blood Angels are officially the Dark Angels of 7th =\.

What's an appropriate successor chapter if my marines are painted like blood angels? xD

Just play BA using C:SM and call it a codex compliant company.

What he said. Play them as Codex: Adeptus Astartes.
Which would be great if not for Death Company, Sanguinary Guard, Sanguinary Priests, Furioso Dreadnoughts, and etc. I like BA because of their toys. I just wish they had their toys and rules at the level of what C:SM is shaping up to have.

And Dark Angels would have liked to have their two previous books at the level Blood Angels were at.

It's your turn to sit back and enjoy the paintrain running at you.

I have a Crimson Fists army that I will continue running. And because GW, I wouldn't count on DA being good.

**Crazyterran**

So, do the data cards in the limited editions not come with the combat doctrines/chapter tactics cards? I'm not seeing them in the descriptions in the NZ site...

**RedFox**

Colpicklejar wrote:
So no idea on what the formations do, just that they exist? Unless it's something really absurdly good, taking 3 land raiders is a huge waste at worst and an army-nullifying cheesewall at best.

What !? considering running a lone Land Raider is pretty useless...running 3 of them is the way to go in a 2000 pts game

and of course the LR Spearhead formation will get some kind of bonus, let's hope for an invulnerable save or it will not die

**JuniorRS13**

Spoiler:

Seems as though from the description of the regular codex that the various chapters may be getting relics.