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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 10:42:46
Subject: Re:New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 10:48:55
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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That captain is boss, I like it, needs to be bone coloured though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 10:50:09
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Yikes, I thought the Assault Squad was expensive till I saw the Devastators. £5.60 per miniature (I'm guessing the servitor fulfils some sort of ammo grot role so I'm not really counting that as a mini...could count it as £5 for each Marine and £3 for a glorified bit). But, it's not all bad. I may not be forking over the cash but I like some things from this release. The general move towards including more weapons is welcome, and I quite like the emphasis with this and the ASM on including a few more scenic base bits on the sprue (not that this is entirely new). That's something I think they should start doing with more armies. Makes me wonder why GW don't just hurry up and start making whole sprues of scenic bases already.
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Driven away from WH40K by rules bloat and the expense of keeping up, now interested in smaller model count games and anything with nifty mechanics. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 10:52:00
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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There are 12 heavy weapons in the Dev kit plus the stuff for the Sergeant. At least for GW pricing that's kind of okay
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 10:58:29
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Executing Exarch
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The Devs are the same price as some of the bigger models, for example Wraithguard. It's expensive but at least you get three sprues and a LOT of stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 11:01:36
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Well least there is no size restriction on the infantry that can go in the drop pod in its own rules. So that rumor/speculation is busted.
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SickSix's Silver Skull WIP thread
My Youtube Channel
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking. = Epic First Post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 11:01:37
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Fixture of Dakka
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Neat!, thanks for sharing the book preview!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 11:09:01
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Hallowed Canoness
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warboss wrote:Unlike Chaos and SOB players would have you believe, there is no contest to see who GW screwed over most.
Of course there is no contest. Everyone knows it is Sisters.
H.B.M.C. wrote:I really thought the Devs would be AUD$70 a box like the Assault Marines. Nope. AUD$7-fething-8 a box.
Unbelievable...
The price for a Sister equivalent is AUD$113, apparently. Without any bitz, or flexibility, or anything. So AUD$78 is a bargain!
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 11:16:36
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:I really thought the Devs would be AUD$70 a box like the Assault Marines. Nope. AUD$7-fething-8 a box.
Unbelievable...
The price for a Sister equivalent is AUD$113, apparently. Without any bitz, or flexibility, or anything. So AUD$78 is a bargain!
Hybrid... you've said some funny things but this is probably the funniest thing you've said in a while.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 11:18:00
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Hallowed Canoness
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I know, my Australian friend  .
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 11:20:01
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Foxy Wildborne
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Any changes at all in the 3 previewed unit entries?
This is the first Codex for an army that I play that I will not pay for. Too expensive to keep up at this release pace.
Termie Captain is boss.
Devs are okay, you get 6 sets of legs in the box, so that's basically a free guy (meshes well with the 5 extra bodies in the Assault Squad), and there's enough guns to outfit 3 Devastator units if you get a box of Tacticals. Plus all the special and melee weapons to upgrade any old squads.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 11:46:19
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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SickSix wrote:Well least there is no size restriction on the infantry that can go in the drop pod in its own rules. So that rumor/speculation is busted.
Downside is that it's another source for Free Ride lists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 12:12:15
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Kanluwen wrote: SickSix wrote:Well least there is no size restriction on the infantry that can go in the drop pod in its own rules. So that rumor/speculation is busted.
Downside is that it's another source for Free Ride lists. 
I'm sure the next edition that comes out in three months or so will take away dedicated transports for battle brothers. And then 9th will bring it back.
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 12:18:49
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:The price for a Sister equivalent is AUD$113, apparently. Without any bitz, or flexibility, or anything. So AUD$78 is a bargain! Yeah but that's a Sisters squad, so, y'know, usual story: Who cares? Warhams-77 wrote:There are 12 heavy weapons in the Dev kit plus the stuff for the Sergeant. At least for GW pricing that's kind of okay Of which you can use, with that kit, a maximum of 5, and in doing so forego all the Sergeant stuff. The kit is bad value because you are left with more of the kit that you haven't used than you have.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 12:21:15
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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I assume you can recycle the extra options in the Devastator box to use on regular tacticals. Doesn't their box only come with a missile launcher?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 12:28:03
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Crazyterran wrote: Kanluwen wrote: SickSix wrote:Well least there is no size restriction on the infantry that can go in the drop pod in its own rules. So that rumor/speculation is busted.
Downside is that it's another source for Free Ride lists. 
I'm sure the next edition that comes out in three months or so will take away dedicated transports for battle brothers. And then 9th will bring it back.
Easier fix:
Drop Pods only should have been available as Dedicated Transports.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 12:32:58
Subject: Re:New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Evasive Pleasureseeker
Lost in a blizzard, somewhere near Toronto
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I'm anxious to see what's become of the Black Templars in this new codex...
If they've removed the staple Crusader Squad, then feth-it, I'm sticking to the 6th ed codex while I wait eternally for a Chaos Marine codex that has more than 3 special/4 heavy weapon options for my squaddies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 12:40:20
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Norn Queen
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That White Scars cover is all sorts of awesome.
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goobs is all you guys will ever be
By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
"Feelin' goods, good enough". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 12:44:16
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Howard A Treesong wrote:I assume you can recycle the extra options in the Devastator box to use on regular tacticals. Doesn't their box only come with a missile launcher?
Yup. The dev box, on it’s own, is a poor value. On a cost per model value, it’s pretty bad. But when you view it as a boost in versatility to your whole collection, it becomes much better. It’s not like the options in say, a box of centurions, where the options you aren’t using just go to your bits box to collect dust, because they only work with that kit. All the extra guns just need some PA bodies to use, and those tend to be cheap and plentiful.
The price bump is not enjoyable, but also not unexpected. Particularly since there are 4 more guns then the last box, and a ton of (unneeded) sarge upgrades. Although the combi-combi is one that might see use.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 12:52:51
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Kanluwen wrote: Crazyterran wrote: Kanluwen wrote: SickSix wrote:Well least there is no size restriction on the infantry that can go in the drop pod in its own rules. So that rumor/speculation is busted.
Downside is that it's another source for Free Ride lists. 
I'm sure the next edition that comes out in three months or so will take away dedicated transports for battle brothers. And then 9th will bring it back.
Easier fix:
Drop Pods only should have been available as Dedicated Transports.
Well, blame the guy who wrote space wolves for that one, I suppose. Or the ork book, since I think that came first and made dedicated transports fast attack for the first time. Or was it dark eldar?
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 12:56:32
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Dakka Veteran
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Was there a heavy flamed in the old box of devestators?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 12:57:07
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Evasive Pleasureseeker
Lost in a blizzard, somewhere near Toronto
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Crazyterran wrote: Kanluwen wrote: Crazyterran wrote: Kanluwen wrote: SickSix wrote:Well least there is no size restriction on the infantry that can go in the drop pod in its own rules. So that rumor/speculation is busted.
Downside is that it's another source for Free Ride lists. 
I'm sure the next edition that comes out in three months or so will take away dedicated transports for battle brothers. And then 9th will bring it back.
Easier fix:
Drop Pods only should have been available as Dedicated Transports.
Well, blame the guy who wrote space wolves for that one, I suppose. Or the ork book, since I think that came first and made dedicated transports fast attack for the first time. Or was it dark eldar?
Orks were the first '7th edition' styled book.
The early releases IIRC went; Orks/Gazy book --> SW's/Champs of Fenris --> DE/Haemie Cult --> BA's
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 12:58:15
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Crazyterran wrote: Kanluwen wrote: Crazyterran wrote: Kanluwen wrote: SickSix wrote:Well least there is no size restriction on the infantry that can go in the drop pod in its own rules. So that rumor/speculation is busted.
Downside is that it's another source for Free Ride lists. 
I'm sure the next edition that comes out in three months or so will take away dedicated transports for battle brothers. And then 9th will bring it back.
Easier fix:
Drop Pods only should have been available as Dedicated Transports.
Well, blame the guy who wrote space wolves for that one, I suppose. Or the ork book, since I think that came first and made dedicated transports fast attack for the first time. Or was it dark eldar?
There is a SIGNIFICANT difference between something like an Ork Trukk or Battlewagon and a Drop Pod.
There would have been nothing wrong with Drop Pods being strictly Dedicated Transports.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 13:03:28
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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The old dev box was 1x ( ML, MM), and 2x ( HB, LC, PC). Plus sarge bits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 13:04:51
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Nice that you can DP a thunderfire cannon
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 13:08:46
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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You could do that in the last book as well. Did anyone ever do it though? It always struck me as a bad option. I could understand taking a pod for the TFC, just to boost your count, but never actually using it. With the ability to just take pods empty as FA picks, the ability to take them for TFCs seems useless now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 13:09:56
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Hallowed Canoness
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Yeah but that's a Sisters squad, so, y'know, usual story: Who cares?
I know right, that is Australia, they should be used to it by now. They never stop complaining though.
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 13:26:57
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
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teleport homers are 5 points cheaper ! amazing :|
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 13:33:06
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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[MOD]
Not as Good as a Minion
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:Yeah but that's a Sisters squad, so, y'know, usual story: Who cares?
I know right, that is Australia, they should be used to it by now. They never stop complaining though.
I know right, this whole tangent about sisters/chaos and comparative prices is incredibly off topic. We will stop it now though
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/06 13:39:03
Subject: New Adeptus Astartes - Page #46 Chaplain and Libby
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Is it bad that I want to buy a Raven Guard LE even though I don't have Space Marines?
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