Reaper Bones 3 Kickstarter - The Update Thread

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**Malkaven**

I'm sure they make a good bit through their pledge manager too post campaign.

**Everyman**

MLaw wrote:
Those two are the size of the Dracolisk. I asked why 2 models that small were priced in the KS higher than the Chimera's retail price.. they refused to answer. People aren't paying attention to how much these things are costing per model.

I dropped my wave 1 pledge. Probably done with Reaper. I've got loads of fantasy stuff anyway and that really seems to be all they care about.

I hope everyone that's in for this enjoys. There's a lot of fun to be had for sure. Already put my money on HINT. Catch ya later

EDIT: I didn't just leave over the manticore and sphinx, and my issue was not just on pricing. The sphinx looked a bit silly vs the metal ones they have and the manticore looked nothing like that classic look their existing one has. They're not bad sculpts but I'm not overly fond of their designs. When you pair this with how little of this KS I actually need, the whole thing with changing the $10 model to a $15 model after it was more popular than they realized, being brushed off when asking about sci-fi (that is a really big one for me), and just general burnout. Seeing an update that was two undersized models that I was looking for, done in a style that is totally not up my alley, and priced higher than the freaking frost giants??? It just does not make sense to me.

I am considering dropping out of the KS myself for very similar reasons. It just seems like all Reaper is concerned about is the money these days. The whole pricing over the Shubby figure was a good example of that. If they had just come clean and admitted that they underestimated demand and had initially priced it too close to cost, I would have been fine with it. But treating us as if we are stupid was kind of insulting. Do they really expect us to believe that for a figure that was priced at the same $10 amount as Cthulhu from Bones I, was way more popular than expected judging from the high amounts that weekend, a pledge manager that was taken down for reasons that were never fully explained just before this and came up with the changed price; was somehow missed by at least three people at Reaper (Bryan who commented on the figure when it was posted as well as put up the updates, the graphic designer who made the images and the person that handles their pledge manager all did not notice it for three days? Coupled with the lack of sci-fi and generally lack of value in the core set compared to the two previous Bones campaigns and this one is not looking all that tempting.

**Sinful Hero**

They actually priced quite a few miniatures too low during the first kickstarter- Kaladrax comes to my mind first. I beliee they mentioned they went in the hole a bit with the first kickstarter.

So comparing things to the first kickstarter is going to make things all screwy. They offered way too much for far too little.

**adamsouza**

Kaladrax was a special case. It wasn't supposed to be that big of a model. The factory in China read the measurements wrong and cut molds for a much bigger model than planned.

**warboss**

Everyman wrote:
MLaw wrote:
Those two are the size of the Dracolisk. I asked why 2 models that small were priced in the KS higher than the Chimera's retail price.. they refused to answer. People aren't paying attention to how much these things are costing per model.

I dropped my wave 1 pledge. Probably done with Reaper. I've got loads of fantasy stuff anyway and that really seems to be all they care about.

I hope everyone that's in for this enjoys. There's a lot of fun to be had for sure. Already put my money on HINT. Catch ya later

EDIT: I didn't just leave over the manticore and sphinx, and my issue was not just on pricing. The sphinx looked a bit silly vs the metal ones they have and the manticore looked nothing like that classic look their existing one has. They're not bad sculpts but I'm not overly fond of their designs. When you pair this with how little of this KS I actually need, the whole thing with changing the $10 model to a $15 model after it was more popular than they realized, being brushed off when asking about sci-fi (that is a really big one for me), and just general burnout. Seeing an update that was two undersized models that I was looking for, done in a style that is totally not up my alley, and priced higher than the freaking frost giants??? It just does not make sense to me.

I am considering dropping out of the KS myself for very similar reasons. It just seems like all Reaper is concerned about is the money these days. The whole pricing over the Shubby figure was a good example of that. If they had just come clean and admitted that they underestimated demand and had initially priced it too close to cost, I would have been fine with it. But treating us as if we are stupid was kind of insulting. Do they really expect us to believe that for a figure that was priced at the same $10 amount as Cthulhu from Bones I, was way more popular than expected judging from the high amounts that weekend, a pledge manager that was taken down for reasons that were never fully explained just before this and came up with the changed price; was somehow missed by at least three people at Reaper (Bryan who commented on the figure when it was posted as well as put up the updates, the graphic designer who made the images and the person that handles their pledge manager all did not notice it for three days? Coupled with the lack of sci-fi and generally lack of value in the core set compared to the two previous Bones campaigns and this one is not looking all that tempting.

That sounds a bit harsh to be honest especially for a company know for value. I could imagine the harsh criticism if they had done that AFTER the kickstarter closed but with a few days left? They may not have handled it as well as they should have but I think saying that they're all about the money these days doesn't ring true.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Aaaaaand Mythos 3 ruins it.

**Sinful Hero**

Like the new armory stretch goal(especially the Succubus shield

), but looks like another expansion I can pass on.

**warboss**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Aaaaaand Mythos 3 ruins it.

How so? I don't have a dog in the fight but am curious nonetheless.

**GrimDork**

I'm guessing Bob wanted more freaky monsters than investigators be didn't get to hand pick.

The quality/scale between the lot of part 3 is spotty at best, some Victorian looking folks along with the mountain man and some proper investigators.

For some, wave 3 of Mythos will be just right, though I think I'd prefer to hand pick my own investigators and saying that means the rest doesn't have enough value for me.

Add in the understandably more expensive Goat, and I've got more theoretical dollars to spare for Tianot or a third expansion if it were to show up. Or just a smaller pledge, that's be smart

**Vain**

Bob doesn't like seafood on his eldrich towers?
Possibly the abundance of seafolk, Victorian civvies, Egyptian-y adventurers.
Or maybe it is the...Camel that broke it?

Either way, I am sure it is up someone's alley.

**ced1106**

Beats me. I'm looking for more investigators for Eldritch Horror and Arkham Horror. The statue and obelisk will make great First Player and Doom tokens.

RAMF has its 28mm investigators, but they're in metal, making them more expensive.

Cthulhu Wars Onslaught 2 will be in September. No info if investigators will be offered, though.

**Mathieu Raymond**

Oh come on! It would have been 100% better to reinclude previous sculpts, rather than some of those.

**Nostromodamus**

Personally love the Investigators as I'll be using the Mythos stuff for Strange Aeons.

Apparently this 3rd part makes the Mythos expansion very "marmite"...

**highlord tamburlaine**

Would've preferred more monsters, but I know I'll be picking up the barefooted prospector at some point or another.

**BobtheInquisitor**

warboss wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Aaaaaand Mythos 3 ruins it.

How so? I don't have a dog in the fight but am curious nonetheless.

Part 1: Here are some Lovecraftian monsters.

Backers: Yay!

Part 2: here are some more monsters, still mostly awesome.

Backers: I love where this is going!

Part 3: No monsters here. Just some of the worst sculpts you've seen in decades.

Backers: ...

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highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Would've preferred more monsters, but I know I'll be picking up the barefooted prospector at some point or another.

You mean the Miner Forty-Niner? I will definitely be adding him to my son's collection.

**MLaw**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
warboss wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Aaaaaand Mythos 3 ruins it.

How so? I don't have a dog in the fight but am curious nonetheless.

Part 1: Here are some Lovecraftian monsters.

Backers: Yay!

Part 2: here are some more monsters, still mostly awesome.

Backers: I love where this is going!

Part 3: No monsters here. Just some of the worst sculpts you've seen in decades.

Backers: ...

lol This was pretty much my reaction. I kinda expected to log in today and feel like an ass for canceling my pledge but I totally don't. Honestly, the lycanthrope packs at this point are the only things I'm really upset about missing KS prices on. I've got giants and dragons and all that other crap for days but man.. those are some awesome lycanthropes. The undead demi-humans are cool too but pretty much everything else is something I can pass on without feeling guilty at all.

**ced1106**

highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Would've preferred more monsters, but I know I'll be picking up the barefooted prospector at some point or another.

Cthulhu Wars Onslaught 2 will be coming up in September, so save your Innsmouth Gold for then!

**Wehrkind**

Yea I don't know what to say about Mythos part 3. I sort of kind of like some of the ideas, and I totally want Miner McMoonshine there, but it just leaves me sort of scratching my head. I'd have thought they would go for a big monster/gribbly thing expansion, and then let you get your heroes in another set or something perhaps.

I guess my thinking is, I would go for expansions that had a tight theme. Hell, sell me 20 skeletons, 20 zombies, some skeleton knights, some skeleton archers, a few skelly monsters and a few necromancers and call it the "Legion of the Dead Expansion" and that makes a lot of sense. Essentially, package up a small army, a little themed terrain and the relevant characters, and we are golden. I don't know why that isn't happening.

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Well, don't sell me a bunch of skeletons and zombies, because I don't care about them, but that's the general idea.

**highlord tamburlaine**

I liked that they at least tried to keep some theme around the expansions this time.

I'd love to see more on offer like this in the future- sets of a 12- 30 figures of various sizes, maybe a bit of scenery, a big centerpiece bad guy or objective...
Offer it up all boxed like Dragons don't share... I'm sure there's a market for it.

I remember that was a big criticism of the expansions last time. Too random.

Hopefully we'll see at least one more.

That camel is awfully tempting as well. Strap some guns on it an you can recreate Metal Slug 2!

**Ian Sturrock**

For me the biggest reason not to pledge on the Mythos Expansion now (which I'd been pretty much set on buying) is not the quality of part III, but its lack of versatility.

I can bring giant Cthulhoid critters easily into fantasy skirmish wargaming (Song of Blades and Heroes, and Frostgrave, are both versatile enough that these minis could fit fine). And I could use a lot of the part I and II minis in 40K as demons, or cultic iconography. Whereas Part III is basically for people running a straight 1920s Call of Cthulhu campaign, and nothing else. I love Call of Cthulhu as a player, but I'm never likely to GM it, and I'm not especially likely to even get to play it any time soon.

Had already been contemplating dropping my pledge for Shubby once the price went up, because again, I didn't have a specific use for it, but at $10 it was too good a mini to pass up.

**solkan**

Is there supposed to be a Mrs. Bones figure to go along with Mr. Bones?

I was hoping for one, based on the promotional images, but there doesn't appear to be one in Reaper's current 170+ skeleton models.

**BrookM**

It's become a slow, but somewhat steady grind now hasn't it? I'm glad the artillery piece has been unlocked by now, though I'm curious to see how long before we finally reach that final dragon.

**ced1106**

Ian Sturrock wrote:
For me the biggest reason not to pledge on the Mythos Expansion now (which I'd been pretty much set on buying) is not the quality of part III, but its lack of versatility.

Cthulhu Wars: Onslaught 2 will be around September, so there goes your money!

I thought Mrs. Bones will be available sometime during the campaign, although I'm not seeing Sophie, either. IIRC, The demoness in Skullstone expansion is nicknamed Sophie's Mom.

We're also still waiting on Not-Tiamat. I also haven't seen the Graveyard Golem yet!

Looks like 129 mini's once we hit the Oz set, plus two weapon sprues and two sets of bases (50 and 20)..

**Gitzbitah**

Yeah, I'm not especially impressed with the stretch goals this moment either- although I am thrilled about one thing. The next 3 stretch goals all add free things to the core set.

I can't recall that happening earlier in the campaign, and I hope it is a trend that continues.

**ulgurstasta**

Sinful Hero wrote:
They actually priced quite a few miniatures too low during the first kickstarter- Kaladrax comes to my mind first. I beliee they mentioned they went in the hole a bit with the first kickstarter.

So comparing things to the first kickstarter is going to make things all screwy. They offered way too much for far too little.

They got a 50k profit on Bones 1 after shipping and moulding, with 10$ Kaladrax and Cthulhu so I wouldn't worry about them

Bones 1 Kickstarter chart

Spoiler:

Aaaaaand Mythos 3 ruins it.

Same sentiment here, I love me some Lovecraft but I dont see any situation where I'm gonna need 1920 civilians.

Does anyone know if they sell expansion minis individually in retail?

**Mathieu Raymond**

Oh they will.

The worse part is, I bought some Strange Aeons minis for my 1920s CoC game... and these are much, much better. I guess it would force me to bring out the misshappen lumps of resin they sell as minis and it would remind me of that bad call...

**Hulksmash**

I want another undead dragon! And terrain! Right now I'm hovering at just two mystic circles and that's it. One for a full circle terrain piece and the other for random terrain pieces around the board.

**Polonius**

Hulksmash wrote:
I want another undead dragon! And terrain! Right now I'm hovering at just two mystic circles and that's it. One for a full circle terrain piece and the other for random terrain pieces around the board.

The Mystic Circle is aces, especially at that price. Even the full retail of, I'd guess, $25-30 won't be too bad.

It makes me wonder why they aren't working on more terrain. stuff like walls, river sections, or huts would be great in Bones.

I haven't pledge yet. I'm torn between gluttony (I want it all!) and the pragmatism of starting a family in a year, which means that by the time the bones arrive... I won't be gaming or painting nearly as much.

I have a hard time saying no the Circle, the Cannon, and the Giant Warriors. I can probably be talked in to the Stoneskull expansion, and I"m sure Ill pledge for Tiamat when she comes online.

**Bossk_Hogg**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Aaaaaand Mythos 3 ruins it.

Yuup. I use mythos monsters a lot in D&D games, but I dont think I've ever used minis in Call of Cthulhu. Normally if you're in a fight, you kind of screwed up.

**TheAuldGrump**

Depends on the campaign - you could expect combat in Masks of Nyarlathotep, which was intended to be played for a fair amount of time.

Over all... I quite like all of the Mythos miniatures - and see at least two that I would like to have as my own PCs.

The camel... I am willing to bet will see at least as much use in fantasy games as in Call of Cthulhu. (Including at least two Pathfinder Adventure Paths that have already been published.)

There are two that I can easily see being used in Steampunk games, as well as all of the Victorian minis. (The female pilot and the female big game hunter... I could have really used the big game hunter about four years ago, we had exactly that type of character in the steampunk game that I was running.)

There is enough in the set to keep me happy, in part because I am not not trying to see the whole thing as All Mythos, All the Time.

The Auld Grump