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I'm struggling to get into this game. I'm early, level 7. i can't do anything. I spent who knows how long punching trees to build a pick, a hatchet and some spears, only to have a level 35 panther kill me from underneath the beach.

He proceeded to spawn camp me for 6 more deaths before I alt-f4ed.

Loaded back up, spend too much time getting my stuff back, only to be killed by a level 1 dilo.

Really, it's approaching refund time, which I want to avoid only because I've got a couple friends who have a blast playing.

 streamdragon wrote:
I'm struggling to get into this game. I'm early, level 7. i can't do anything. I spent who knows how long punching trees to build a pick, a hatchet and some spears, only to have a level 35 panther kill me from underneath the beach.

He proceeded to spawn camp me for 6 more deaths before I alt-f4ed.

Loaded back up, spend too much time getting my stuff back, only to be killed by a level 1 dilo.

Really, it's approaching refund time, which I want to avoid only because I've got a couple friends who have a blast playing.

How did a cat find you on the beach? That is no where close to where they spawn. The dilo's can be tricky the first few times you fight them, but once you learn how to side step the spit you can basically bounce them back with your fists.

It's going to take you a bit to really get settled, you need to basically build a bed and start a base so you can build up your supplies rather then just resetting after each death. If your playing single player, you should also consider cheating. Increase your EXP rates, gather rates and taming speeds.

Maybe do some LAN stuff with them and have them help you out? This could help you start out and get on your feet.

 streamdragon wrote:
I'm struggling to get into this game. I'm early, level 7. i can't do anything. I spent who knows how long punching trees to build a pick, a hatchet and some spears, only to have a level 35 panther kill me from underneath the beach.

He proceeded to spawn camp me for 6 more deaths before I alt-f4ed.

Loaded back up, spend too much time getting my stuff back, only to be killed by a level 1 dilo.

Really, it's approaching refund time, which I want to avoid only because I've got a couple friends who have a blast playing.

Why would you run back to where a saber is to get back some stone tools and spears? It seriously takes three minutes to go from naked on the beach to pants, pick and hatchet.

Guys, even playing single player there is no point getting attached to anything before you are able to start building out of wood at the very least. And frankly, single player in this is awful and aside from testing mechanics or whatever I do not recommend it at all.

nomotog wrote:

 streamdragon wrote:
I'm struggling to get into this game. I'm early, level 7. i can't do anything. I spent who knows how long punching trees to build a pick, a hatchet and some spears, only to have a level 35 panther kill me from underneath the beach.

He proceeded to spawn camp me for 6 more deaths before I alt-f4ed.

Loaded back up, spend too much time getting my stuff back, only to be killed by a level 1 dilo.

Really, it's approaching refund time, which I want to avoid only because I've got a couple friends who have a blast playing.

How did a cat find you on the beach? That is no where close to where they spawn. The dilo's can be tricky the first few times you fight them, but once you learn how to side step the spit you can basically bounce them back with your fists.

It's going to take you a bit to really get settled, you need to basically build a bed and start a base so you can build up your supplies rather then just resetting after each death. If your playing single player, you should also consider cheating. Increase your EXP rates, gather rates and taming speeds.

North beaches sometimes have Sabres on them. Try a nice south beach.

And this is definitely a grindy game. Took me a solid 100+ hours to get situated. But its worth it. Nothing like running about on a Spino killing everything

Disaster on my singleplayer character. I had got my dilo army up to 5 and leveled them abit whie filling them up with 30+ meat each. I came back to base to deposit a couple stacks of hide and fibres, only to attack a dodo that was in the way. My dilo were on attack my target and killed it easy.

Then I notice the battle music is still playing so I quickly glance around expecting a dilo or raptor to be approaching. NOPE! I have a bloody bronto coming at me from a couple hundred metres away.

It tailswipes me breaking my legs and killing 2 dilo instantly. I try to crawl away as it steps on and kills a 3rd. I try to hide behind a nearby rock but another tailswipe finishes me. The respawn map appears followed shortly by the message the final 2 dilo were killed.

Middle of taming my 2nd Spino. the PvP weekend went as well as could be expected. Only had one attack in which i lost 2 of my Carnos, and my Argant.

But the turret is operational and soon we will have metal walls. Also raided a few people, including some duchebags who killed me and took my gear(including my new assault rifle) when i was out looking for turtles on a 4x resource event. Killed their Rex, Stego, and Anklyo. Took their resources, and dumped their raptors in the ocean with my Argant! And got my gun back too. Spino are OP.

nomotog wrote:How did a cat find you on the beach? That is no where close to where they spawn. The dilo's can be tricky the first few times you fight them, but once you learn how to side step the spit you can basically bounce them back with your fists.

It's going to take you a bit to really get settled, you need to basically build a bed and start a base so you can build up your supplies rather then just resetting after each death. If your playing single player, you should also consider cheating. Increase your EXP rates, gather rates and taming speeds.

Like someone said, north beach. I would also hope they don't spawn UNDER the sand normally. If the game didn't tell me what killed me, I would have no idea why I died.

Bromsy wrote:Why would you run back to where a saber is to get back some stone tools and spears? It seriously takes three minutes to go from naked on the beach to pants, pick and hatchet.

Guys, even playing single player there is no point getting attached to anything before you are able to start building out of wood at the very least. And frankly, single player in this is awful and aside from testing mechanics or whatever I do not recommend it at all.

Guess I wasn't clear. I was referring to getting my pick, hatchet, spears, campfire and thatch housing remade. Not getting to my old ones, since I didn't really fancy tangling with a level 35 cat again.

I can't even make a bedroll yet because that would require hide I don't have. What's the best source early on? I've tried taking on a level 3 turtle-thing at level 7. Threw a dozen spears into his face, beat him a couple times with a hatchet and he still killed the crap outta me.

 streamdragon wrote:

nomotog wrote:How did a cat find you on the beach? That is no where close to where they spawn. The dilo's can be tricky the first few times you fight them, but once you learn how to side step the spit you can basically bounce them back with your fists.

It's going to take you a bit to really get settled, you need to basically build a bed and start a base so you can build up your supplies rather then just resetting after each death. If your playing single player, you should also consider cheating. Increase your EXP rates, gather rates and taming speeds.

Like someone said, north beach. I would also hope they don't spawn UNDER the sand normally. If the game didn't tell me what killed me, I would have no idea why I died.

Bromsy wrote:Why would you run back to where a saber is to get back some stone tools and spears? It seriously takes three minutes to go from naked on the beach to pants, pick and hatchet.

Guys, even playing single player there is no point getting attached to anything before you are able to start building out of wood at the very least. And frankly, single player in this is awful and aside from testing mechanics or whatever I do not recommend it at all.

Guess I wasn't clear. I was referring to getting my pick, hatchet, spears, campfire and thatch housing remade. Not getting to my old ones, since I didn't really fancy tangling with a level 35 cat again.

I can't even make a bedroll yet because that would require hide I don't have. What's the best source early on? I've tried taking on a level 3 turtle-thing at level 7. Threw a dozen spears into his face, beat him a couple times with a hatchet and he still killed the crap outta me.

Dodos and dilos. Turtles are tanky as hell, don't waste your time until you are higher level or have a raptor to ride.

- and make sure you are harvesting the bodies with your hatchet, that gets better hide percentages.

Dodos and Dilos are what you get hide from early on. You can get about 3-5 from each.

And don't bother making a sleeping bag. Learn the engram only so you can learn the bed later. Its only a little bit more hide and you can use it more than once.

The goal is to get to at least where you can make tranq arrows. Once you have those you can tame anything, along with the help of a cliff. I would make it a goal to tame a Stego, get its saddle, and them either a Carno or 2-3 raptors. Find some that are at the bottom of a cliff so you can shoot them without them getting to you. Then you need to keep them unconscious with narcotics.

While it doesn't save you any time, the Starving method does have advantages. 1) It means less time spent traveling back and forth between sources of meat and your downed carnivore. You can stay there and protect it from any other dinos. 2) if you do lose the dino you will only have lost the narcotics you fed it and not all the meat too. 3) it will tame all at once so you won't waste as much food.

I also recommend keeping any tamed dinos with an AOE attack(stego, anklyo, etc) away from your taming dino. If you get attacked their attacks against the attacker will hit the taming dino too.


Once you have a rideable carnivore, meat and hide will never be a problem again. You'll have so much you'll have to regularly dump it for inventory space.

The Raptor is the earliest mount IIRC, so try and get one. As a plus, there is little that a pack of leveled up raptors can't handle. 3 with ~1200 health and ~300% can take on any Trex with confidance.

Bromsy wrote:Dodos and dilos. Turtles are tanky as hell, don't waste your time until you are higher level or have a raptor to ride.

- and make sure you are harvesting the bodies with your hatchet, that gets better hide percentages.

Grey Templar wrote:Dodos and Dilos are what you get hide from early on. You can get about 3-5 from each.

Cool. Guess I'll give it another go tonight. My friends are crazy far along, but I didn't want to just jump into the deep end where I miss half the game. Did that in Terraria where my friends and I would start a server, I'd go to work and come home to find demons and bat wings and machine guns and stuff. Sort of felt like missing the point to me.

Yesterday my brother and his friend went "spelunking", their description for heading into a snake, bat and monster infested cave for funsies. The end result.. two dead raptors, seven deaths between the two of them and I don't know if it was worth it, but listening to them lose their gak over Skype while I was safely tucked away at basecamp was priceless.

Also, he got a dolphin. Sharks love dolphins.

With the starving method, don't you lose taming effectiveness?

No.

Beginning Taming effectiveness is determined by how much damage you inflicted on the creature to knock it out. Each bite the creature takes(which it takes when it dips down 50 pts for carnivores and 30 for herbivores) reduces the taming effectiveness by some amount. Damage it takes while unconscious will also reduce it. This is why using a scorpion is best as they inflict the least damage/torpor ratio of all methods. You can use this to begin with 99% effectiveness.

Starving it just makes it eat a bunch in rapid succession. It doesn't take any quicker because its food will go down at the same rate either way. But it does let you save running around. Especially with prime meat that spoils quickly so you want it to eat it immediately. Its also better for a dangerous area, that way you don't lose all the meat/berries you collected if it dies, just any narcotics you used to keep it down. You only have to make a few trips to harvest meat instead of collecting 1 prime every 2.5 minutes.

Prime meat hurts taming effectiveness less because it makes the taming bar go up 4 times as much as raw meat. Meaning it takes less bites to tame, and therefore less times for the TE to decrease. the same with feeding a herbivore its preferred berry.

Cooked prime is also more effective than regular raw. Just 2x instead of 4x.

Tried again last night. Found a nice place in Southern Islets with low level dodos, built myself a hut. Bagged a few birds.

Then got annihilated by a level 35 croc looking thing that came out of nowhere and proceeded to track me after each respawn, like I was in some sort of horror movie.

Thats weird, Sarcos have a fairly low aggro range.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Thats weird, Sarcos have a fairly low aggro range.

I'm assuming it was bugged, since it probably should have dropped my agro when it killed me the first time, instead of chasing my respawn repeatedly.

After talking with one of my friends, apparently they've cranked the difficulty on that server up. It's been a steady group playing, so they're all higher level and well equipped and so on. Not really "new-player" friendly I guess.

What server?

Could be the one I'm on. Our admin has had a bear of a time with the setting tweaking. Its kinda broken right now.

Dangit
and I got back into Everquest

what server is most Dakka on?

I am on Patriclus's Ark Server. Its an awesome server, but we're basically full at the moment. Difficulty is cranked way up and there is a lot of tweaking going on with the settings. Unfortunately the devs haven't finished this yet and its led to some wonky things.

We have tamed dino damage down to 10% of normal, player damage has also been toned way down(like 15% of normal). And our tame dinos are STILL one shotting a lot of wilds.

 Grey Templar wrote:
I am on Patriclus's Ark Server.

Not the one I'm on. I was invited by friends, so I'm not sure if it's okay for my to invite others. It's pretty full most of the time.

We're merrily chugging away on a private server ourselves, having finally found a suitable mining location with plenty of metal, flint and whatnot, I have become the Bullet Farmer..



Also, fething pissing gak. We had a fridge full of blood bags, well over seventy of them and as of the last update, all gone. So much for being the Organic Mechanic.

They added a decay time to bloodpacks. Gotta keep them refrigerated now.

Decided to say today and just use my rifle for hunting and whatnot, much to the annoyance of my brother. It does however make the hunting of paras and those giant rats easier, with a single shot to the head dropping them in one shot. Plus, a gun is meant to be used, not kept in a supply crate because bullets are expensive, fething hell man!

Also, my brother is taming a T-Rex right now, they can't craft a saddle for it yet, so they're keeping it penned in for the time being.

Honestly I wouldn't bother with guns till you can make advanced pistols/assault rifles. Their ammo is way cheaper. Advanced pistol ammo is half the cost of simple bullet ammo and you get 2 rounds instead of 1. Advanced rifle ammo is 3 less gunpowder, 1 more metal, and you get 2 rounds as well.

If I have the funds on payday I may get this game it looks spectacular !

Someone is making a warhammer mod. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=478716204&searchtext=

I wasn't expecting that.

nomotog wrote:
Someone is making a warhammer mod. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=478716204&searchtext=

I wasn't expecting that.

Ehhh, meh. Not exactly the right game for it.

It's be interesting if the mod can integrate weapons or something from 40k, or maybe power armor? It isn't lore friendly at all, unless it explains it like:

You got messed up in the warp and are on a planet nowhere near any faction, and the only link to home are the random supply drops of other things getting thrown here from the warp.

Supply drops from the Warp eh. You just watch Predator movie with Lawrence Fishburne in it recently?