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Just remember-- Froggies attack the rider, not the dino. And they do torpor damage. A lot of it.

As long as you keep that in mind, you should be okay hunting or taming them.

In fact, froggies do enough torpor damage that they rival scorpions in usefulness for taming animals.

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Yeah, for the first time in a while I was happy that I had 36 points in fortitude. I was knocking three of em out at once, and they all went down before they could knock me out. I went down for a few seconds after, but I was right back up.
   
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Well,,,on Officialserver 309......I am the only remaining Exodus Knight left....maybe one more....
Chinese went nuts on the raids with Hacks, demolish majority of members bases and other tribes bases....
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I tamed a spino. It was right outside my base and got stuck on a hill. Can't ride it though way to low a level for the saddle, so now it's just sitting outside my base. I hope it doesn't randomly die. Lots of dangers come from the swamp.
   
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Have it follow you around as a pack animal. They have decent carry capacity. And it'll level up a bit before you can get a saddle.

Of course you could always buy a saddle off another player

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 Grey Templar wrote:
Have it follow you around as a pack animal. They have decent carry capacity. And it'll level up a bit before you can get a saddle.

Of course you could always buy a saddle off another player


I am worried that it will get stuck of lost if I take it out with me. Then what about if I wander into a rex or carno. I kind of wish they would revamp the pathfinding and dino controls to help that.

Aslo I am playing single player so can't buy a saddle.
   
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oh, anyway Spinos actually have pretty good pathfinding and unlike rexes aren't likely to get stuck on rocks because they can actually climb. Plus tame dinos get significant benefits over wild ones just by being tamed.

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I love my frog - got it at 160 tamed. Been working away at my new base which is waaay bigger than it probably needs to be.

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Anyone want to guess what happen to spiny. alpha raptor. I didn't expect that. I took him out for a walk saw him take down a t-rex, but then a little while latter a red raptor killed me and killed my spino. I ended up losing all the stuff on her too. Lots of oil pearls and animal parts. So now I am back down to just my trike farming narco to get some new tames. On the up side, I did build a tower out west and I'm on metal tier. I think I will saddle a flying creature to get around with.
   
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Yeah, having a couple birds is very important. I use 2-3 Argants to go on mining trips. I usually build a smelting shack at the base of a mountain and then make several trips from the top to it with birds. Then once its all smelted I can carry the metal back to base(cuts weight in half too)

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Heh, we use the same system, only they leave me on the mountain freezing my ass off mining for metals while they go spelunking. They check in every now and then with fuel, food and promises of a better life soon...



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Argents can have good carrying capacity, as well. Have an argent I tamed at level 72 (our level cap is 120, which is higher than normal) that has 500 weight by now with her level in the nineties.

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Also, for being low-level dinos, Pachys are fething rare!

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I think its because they just get killed a lot. I see them just about anywhere, but never in numbers because I think they just get eaten by all the predators.

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As another aside, it feels like mammals have been made a lot stronger than anything else. Wolves, for example, are absolutely broken, able to destroy anything else with ease. And that's solo. With a pack, they're pretty much unbeatable.. Sabertooths are almost as powerful (and can stand up to single wolves if they have a saddle). Carnosaurs got nerfed to hell and are a lot weaker than they used to be, more fragile and with less stamina. Spinos are really not worth the effort it takes, even moreso than Carnos-- they're really the least dangerous of the big carnivores, even raptors are more dangerous to players than Spinos are, Raptors can't stand up to either of the mid-sized mammal mounts, and even Megalocerous are generally a better combat mount than raptors really-- they're mostly only good as scouts (but flying mounts make far superior scouts). Paracers are quite a bit more dangerous to players than Brontos are unless you're attacking with a pack of animals, and more generally useful as they're a lot faster and you don't kill yourself hopping off their backs. Mammoths are the most useful combat-wise of the large herbivores, though they don't yet have a platform saddle (don't think they will get one either). Of the mammals, only Phiomias are kind of useless, except as a plentiful source of meat (Paracers are also a plentiful source of meat, but far more dangerous to harvest).

Rexes are about the last of the combat saurids that seem particularly strong still.

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I think there might be some artificial skew of strength due to hit boxes, and all the carnivorous mammals are small. With a wolf I can get under a Rex/spino/bronto's attacks and not take the full force. And then easily rip them up. Same reason why it can take a wild Rex five minutes to kill a wild raptor.

I think the large animals could use a huge increase in hit points.Like make brontos be 10,000 hHP base.

Tamed animals are too strong in general too. They have much more favorable modifiers than wild ones have.

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Spinos aren't worth the effort? Can you explain a bit more? My spino is my go to ride and do it all dino. Every lvl he's gone up just wrecks more face. So just curious where you're coming from on this.

   
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Might depend on the server modifiers. Spines are IMO worth it for the faster movement and not getting stuck on rocks. But rexes are easier and stronger.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
With a wolf I can get under a Rex/spino/bronto's attacks and not take the full force.
You don't even need to. Dire Wolves are utterly broken. Even top of the line fur armor (what you'll be wearing in their locations) will be shredded in seconds by a good leveled dire wolf, or a mid-low level one with pack bonuses. They're leagues above things like raptors or carnosaurs, and even if you aren't avoiding its attacks, a trained pack of 3 dire wolves will turn a t-rex into a pile of dino meat rapidly. They'll tear alpha raptors as if they're nothing, and kill alpha carnosaurs with few losses. Alpha rex might be able to handle them with the aoe of its bite... maybe.


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 Grey Templar wrote:
Might depend on the server modifiers. Spines are IMO worth it for the faster movement and not getting stuck on rocks. But rexes are easier and stronger.
IIRC, Carnos are faster on land, do more damage, smaller, and have equivalent health to a Spino, but the Spino can actually move in water worth a damn. Could be wrong though. Rexes are more durable and with massively better offense, but turn very slowly. Mostly though, for the effort it takes to get a spino trained, I've found it just doesn't ever impress in combat compared to a carno or rex.

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I find that Spinos and Rexes are fairly even with each other. The Rex goes through trees better but gets stuck on rocks more, his damage is a bit more but he attacks slower. Rexes also turn way faster than a Spino.

The Spino is great on land if you bite your way through all of the trees, rocks you go right over. Turning is a pain, you have to sprint away and line your attacks up or back up. The Spino has the swimming ability which is really handy.

The Carno is quick, maneuverable and does nice damage but the stam drains so quick.

I have yet to find anything to put up a fight with my Spino, even 6 Brontos at once did nothing to it. I have taken more damage from jumping off the volcano than anything in the game.

I lost a 180 Carno taming my Spino and it is vastly superior.

 
   
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I don't find that tamed rexes attack very slow at all, at least one attack per second, and they do a ton more damage per hit-- eighty base for rexes, 50 for spinos, which means not only is it doing more damage base per hit, it also grows far faster (wild rexes grow by +3 damage / level, wild spinos by +2.5; tamed, both grow by 10%). Assuming the wiki is rigth-- I think Rexes got their damage buffed, actually.

I have the opposite experience. Spinos are nothing more than targets, even my argentavis can take on a higher level spino with ease-- granted, she can kill rexes, too, but attacking a rex is far riskier than attacking a spino. In fact, they're so easy to kill that we basically just consider them free experience. They're so easy to kill I can kill them on foot without any risk to myself, really. Bugs are more dangerous than spinos.

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Well, Wild Spinos are different from tamed ones. Tamed Spinos can easily have stats the same as rexes, and their higher mobility can give them an edge. Argants can attack the sail without getting into bite range, but thats tough to do correctly every time when attacking a spino with 40k+ hp, and 1-2 hits will total your bird.

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I know you love the thing, but I seriously I don't think your spino can do 2000 damage per hit against an argentavis with a 33 armor saddle to total my bird in two hits-- and that's without taking in to account the fact that Argentavises take less damage from melee attacks to begin with. Just saying, you're vastly overestimating your favorite dino here.

And no, tamed spinos can't have similar stats to tamed rexes that have been trained similarly and are of similar level. If they both have 500% damage, the rex does at least 400 per bite, while the spino does around or above 250 damage per bite. The rex will have somewhere more than twice the health base of a spino, thus the per-level increase is larger as increasing stats on a tamed animal does it as a percentage. The Spino is also far lighter, and can be knocked back by the rex's hits, as well.

It's really not a contest as far as which one is the top dog in terms of dueling, the Spino will generally lose barring its rider being vastly more skilled. Granted, both of them will be torn apart by a pack of tamed dire wolves, but that's because dire wolves are fething broken as hell and need to be nerfed.

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I was being a little facitious. My point is that a Spino can still kill an Argant thats attacking it.

True, if you have two exactly equal rexes and spinos,, the rex will have more damage. But thats almost never going to be the case.

And no, its not my favorite. I like Wolves and Rexes better, I just think the Spinos isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

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Does the new fur armour give you better protection against the cold?



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Massively so.

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Just a correction, the Ark wiki states Rex base damage is 60. The Spino AoE attack is also much larger than that of a Rex.

I also play on a PvE server so really there is nothing my Spino has to worry about.

 
   
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Does the new fur armour give you better protection against the cold?


Yes. Its also between leather and chiten in protection. Unless you only spend short periods in the snow fur is basically mandatory. It feels like they made the cold penalty stronger. You'll die family quickly without it.

Main issue is its freaking expensive. Takes soo many pelts.

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I've been stuck on a cold mountain for a long, long time now, mining and refining metals for the others, while they do the nasty business of collecting artefacts. They have to content with fething bats, while my biggest worries are starvation and the ever present cold, the latter in particular is annoying when the forges aren't smelting, because they CBA to lay down some wiring for the AC unit.



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I do really dislike that you can freeze/overheat to death while you are standing inside, wearing ideal clothing, and near a source of heat if applicable.

If its only 28 degrees F outside, I'm not going to die of hypothermia standing next to two roaring fires, holding a torch, and wearing full leather. It would have to be well below freezing for me to be in danger.

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