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 krazynadechukr wrote:
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Tau-Empire-XV128-Stormsurge-Battlesuit

You might want to edit that link; I'm getting an error 404 when opening it.

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 TheNewBlood wrote:
 krazynadechukr wrote:
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Tau-Empire-XV128-Stormsurge-Battlesuit

You might want to edit that link; I'm getting an error 404 when opening it.


He previously had a riptide box pic there from the combat company and edited it to that instead. I'm not sure why.
   
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 warboss wrote:
I just wonder if they'll autoinclude a unit no one uses or wants like they did with the eldar and the vyper.


If the past Decurions have been any indication (Tomb Blades for Necrons, War Walkers/Vypers for Eldar, etc.), there will absolutely be an auto-include unit people didn't like. And going by the previous examples we've seen, personally I think the auto-include will be Piranhas. It fits with the theme of the past Decurions, a fast, vulnerable, unit for jumping around the board. Certainly makes more sense to have it as an actual Tau unit and not an auxiliary like Vespid or Kroot. The only other option I can think of would be Stealth Suits (thinking in terms of general units that don't see much play time and probably don't sell that much), but even they are still good, they just aren't used because the other Elite options are just so much better (speaking of which, can Stealth Suits be moved to FA please GW?)

So yeah, my prediction is Piranhas will be our forced include for Tau Decurion, but will see some kind of buff similar to Tomb Blades and Vypers (likely we'll get more weapon options like plasma rifles or missile pods, and possibly the ability to replace the gun drones like how Devilfish and the tanks can).


I'm fine with Piranhas as an auto-include since I get a lot of use out of them but I hope they don't get crisis suit weapons as that'll make the TX-42 redundant.

Probably just having sensor spines automatically attached for free would be great enough a buff for easier fast unit point capping

/wishlisting

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Tau Empire fast attack is a disaster. The only thing I put in there is my 109 Y'vahrah. Needs buffs across the board.

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I really don't want new fast attack units for the Tau, I love all of the options we have now, but it's just sad most of them aren't that great. At best I think maybe two to three are actually playable in a serious manner when looking at the base codex, but that means 50% or more are amazingly bad.

Honestly, I'd rather they make our fast attack options better, instead of introducing new ones. As for troops, I want more troops >.>

Oh, and make Piranhas a little more awesome, I absolutely love their models and their concept of super fast units that can plop down drone walls.

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Yeah I definitely want the majority of our codex usable instead of like 4-5 same unit every time being taken. Buffs would be good.

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Tau Empire fast attack is what i play since 1st codex: 2 or 3 units of drones.
Drones are my favourite unit in the Tau army since day 1.

Jetpack (2 moves, deep strike), twin-linked weapons and the perfect unit to join a commander.
   
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I really hope Pirahnas are buffed, I love the little guys.

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Don't worry, they'll come out with a new model that's double the cost.

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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Don't worry, they'll come out with a new model that's double the cost.

While being 10 points cheaper base in the new codex!

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If they moved stealth suit to FA they would probably become a popular FA option. That's if there isn't a way to make them troops in the new dex.

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There needs to be a FA battlesuit to let yo do an all-battlesuit army without bringing in forge world. I suppose it's too much to ask that the ghostkeel kit would let you build regular XV9s, but maybe the new crisis suit kit will let you build coldstar suits or something.


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 ChiliPowderKeg wrote:

I'm fine with Piranhas as an auto-include since I get a lot of use out of them but I hope they don't get crisis suit weapons as that'll make the TX-42 redundant.

Probably just having sensor spines automatically attached for free would be great enough a buff for easier fast unit point capping

/wishlisting


Nobody uses Tx-42 anyway

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"FW is unbalanced and going to ruin tournaments."
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 Hawkeye888 wrote:
If they moved stealth suit to FA they would probably become a popular FA option. That's if there isn't a way to make them troops in the new dex.


Wishlisting but I'd like to see MLs on stealth suits...

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 Vector Strike wrote:
 ChiliPowderKeg wrote:

I'm fine with Piranhas as an auto-include since I get a lot of use out of them but I hope they don't get crisis suit weapons as that'll make the TX-42 redundant.

Probably just having sensor spines automatically attached for free would be great enough a buff for easier fast unit point capping

/wishlisting


Nobody uses Tx-42 anyway

Yeah, it's severely overpiriced.

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I'm fine with Piranhas as an auto-include since I get a lot of use out of them but I hope they don't get crisis suit weapons as that'll make the TX-42 redundant.


Well, Decurion formations don't allow for FW units to be used any way, so I don't think GW is gonna care too much about the TX-42.

Gonna suck not being able to use my Tetras all the time now, I've fallen in love with those guys since I got them this year.

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 Rainyday wrote:
There needs to be a FA battlesuit to let yo do an all-battlesuit army without bringing in forge world. I suppose it's too much to ask that the ghostkeel kit would let you build regular XV9s, but maybe the new crisis suit kit will let you build coldstar suits or something.


To put it lightly, if this is a Decurion styled book?

I wouldn't worry too much about there being "no fast attack battlesuits". You could just run formations consisting of Crisis Suits, Broadsides, and Stealth Suits.

In fact, just for speculation/wishlisting? With the advent of the Ghostkeel and the Stormsurge, I would not be surprised to see formations that read like so:

<Insert Tau-y name for the formation here>
0+ (or 1+) Ghostkeel
3+ Stealth Suit Teams
0-1 Shadowsun

<Insert Tau-y name for the formation here>
1(or 1-2) Stormsurge
2+ Broadside Teams
0+ Sniper Drone Teams


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 GI_Redshirt wrote:
I'm fine with Piranhas as an auto-include since I get a lot of use out of them but I hope they don't get crisis suit weapons as that'll make the TX-42 redundant.


Well, Decurion formations don't allow for FW units to be used any way, so I don't think GW is gonna care too much about the TX-42.

Gonna suck not being able to use my Tetras all the time now, I've fallen in love with those guys since I got them this year.

None of the books that have Decurions have had new FW rules published/updated to match yet, so that's a bit of a stretch.

I would not be surprised to see FW publish a FAQ/Errata for IA3(or in the forthcoming Tau v. AdMech book) that TX-42s count as Piranhas and Tetras count as Pathfinders for the purposes of their formations.

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 Gamgee wrote:
Tau Empire fast attack is a disaster. The only thing I put in there is my 109 Y'vahrah. Needs buffs across the board.


Forgeworld has a lot of good FA options for Tau that I use.

Tetras, Remoras, Barracuda, and of course the Y'vahrah :



 
   
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Drones are moved to TROOP in the GW website.
That could be very good news for my drone themed army.

A jetpack unit as TROOP (objective secured) choice.
In the current edition, where speed and flexibility is very important, almost too good to be true...
   
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ORicK wrote:
Drones are moved to TROOP in the GW website.
That could be very good news for my drone themed army.

A jetpack unit as TROOP (objective secured) choice.
In the current edition, where speed and flexibility is very important, almost too good to be true...

So is the Cadre Fireblade, which would probably be too good.

Though I do like the idea of Drones as troops, since you could go for the JPI with lesser shooting potential, or super powerful shooting troops at the expensive of mobility.

I'd also like to see them do something with the Krootox and Kroot Hound, as right now it's really awkward. Maybe if they just said you could only take a unit of either for each unit of Kroot you took, and then had an option to reduce their cost if you put them in that Kroot unit, it would make them more playable, because as they stand now they're (almost) unusable.

Edit: Also, make Firesight Marksmen their own thing, they have really powerful Markerlights (thanks to their BS skill) and you can take up to three of them, but you're strapped with really awkward drone amounts. It would open up our Fast Attack options if we could take them as Heavy Supports without the drones, maybe even in larger numbers, as they can really apply those Markerlights. Heck, at least let the drones shoot at other units than them, because as they stand now they're more confusing than the Kroot with Krootox Riders.

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Snipers with heavy rail rifles would be cool (deployed of course).
   
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The Cadre Fireblade has been located in the Troops section of the Games Workshop since he was first released. Atleast on the swedish website, I know because I looked for him multiple times only to find him there, Ad I always wonderd why they derped and put him in Troops..

The Gun Drones are new to the Troops section though.
   
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That's odd. I'm under the impression that they're there since they can be taken in fire warriors squads, but Drones as troops sounds cool.

I'm all for having drone swarm as a legal bound army


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Gun Drones as troops would be interesting, too bad they can't score though.

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Drones can't score? Why not?

In my memory that rule was only in the 1st Tau codex, together with a leadership bound to unit-size.

@ChiliPowderKeg: this is first time i see an army with so many drones besides my own!

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Drones can't score? Why not?

In my memory that rule was only in the 1st Tau codex, together with a leadership bound to unit-size.

@ChiliPowderKeg: this is first time i see an army with so many drones besides my own!


Current drone rules state that units comprised entirely of drones are non-scoring, non-denial units.
   
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Didn't know that! :-)

Not a real practical problem, because they are usually led by jetpack HQ anyway, but i do hope that they will become scoring.
   
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Have there been any rumours about the Vespid? I mean something has to be done to them as they're currently just unplayable, which is sad since I like the little guys. I just can't believe that GW would leave them unchanged this time around.

Maybe if they just reduced the point costs and made them into troops, or allowed them to be taken without eating up FA slots, or pretty much anything.

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