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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 14:57:58
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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tetrisphreak wrote:Wishlisting here - but wouldn't it be great to see XV-88 railguns go back to s10 (or even 9) and the heavy railgun on the hammerhead become a sD sabot?
They've sold enough hammerheads and new broadsides. You're supposed to buy three of the new stormsurges now...in case the rules didn't somehow make that clear enough.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 15:14:25
Subject: Re:Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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tetrisphreak wrote: Co'tor Shas wrote:Ooh, those are some nice rules.
Edit: and holy ferret-balls you can take three of them in a squad.
Edit: and it seems to go in the fortification slot, and interesting take on tau fortifications. I like it.
I thought that icon was the LOW fist.
Edit - also am I reading the stats correctly (blurry pic) - S6 T6 W8 Gargantuan creature, with a 3+ AS? Not insurmountable stats by any means but for the damage output this thing can manage, especially from turn 2 forward when it's locked in position, is amazing. Which big gun to go with? The pulse blastcannon that gets stronger but more focused at closer ranges, or the driver cannon that's S10 AP1 ordnance all day? i'm thinking S10.
It's ap2 not 1which does matter against vehicles alot. I actually think I like the D weapon much more, remember this thing is a GMC so it runs 12" a phase, not that hard to get the D in range if you really need it offensively, but more importantly you generally need the D against things that are crashing into your lines as Tau, so the 10" range band around that things massive base is fine. Especially when you lock him down and have 4 sD shots.
All that said he is rather all the eggs in a basket at 360. with poor LD he can be shrieked down rather quickly, heck at only T6 he can be shot down with good old fashioned plasma. I'd say he is priced fairly and will either alpha them massively or get punked right off. Automatically Appended Next Post: Sidstyler wrote: tetrisphreak wrote:Wishlisting here - but wouldn't it be great to see XV-88 railguns go back to s10 (or even 9) and the heavy railgun on the hammerhead become a sD sabot?
They've sold enough hammerheads and new broadsides. You're supposed to buy three of the new stormsurges now...in case the rules didn't somehow make that clear enough.
He isn't OP by any means. Aside from his main weapon and some one shot missiles all he adds to the party is S5. Honestly I'd rather have ethereal backed fire warriors and a riptide after contemplation. 360pts is alot when you consider his D weapon is 10" range with a BS of 3 and he doesn't jump.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 15:23:55
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Am I reading this correctly? You can take 3 in a unit, And if they deploy their stabilizers they can fire twice..? So.. 24D6 strength 5 ap 5 missiles per turn..? Oh god.. they will anihhilate every infantry unit on the battlefield.. xD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 15:27:33
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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I'm seeing this as a hard counter to the Gladius/Lions Blade Strikeforce. Nice free transports you have there, it would be a shame if someone shot the $h*t out of them!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 15:37:11
Subject: Re:Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Painting Within the Lines
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As a Tau player, I was hoping to see something other than "yet more gunline" options. I personally like bringing deepstriking and outflanking units. I am still hoping for a viable Kroot or Vespid counter assault option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 15:40:38
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Merellin wrote:Am I reading this correctly? You can take 3 in a unit, And if they deploy their stabilizers they can fire twice..? So.. 24D6 strength 5 ap 5 missiles per turn..? Oh god.. they will anihhilate every infantry unit on the battlefield.. xD
To bad most people only use minimum infantry.
I would be hard pressed to find an opponent even fielding the 360 points of infantry to even out this guys cost, let alone a squadron of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 15:43:10
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Well, I was thinking in Apocalypse, Where people bring their entire collections "I see your unit of 200 Orks and fire my 24D6 missiles at it!" Muahaha =D
I dont realy use lords of war outside apocalypse..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 15:44:15
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Fayric wrote:Merellin wrote:Am I reading this correctly? You can take 3 in a unit, And if they deploy their stabilizers they can fire twice..? So.. 24D6 strength 5 ap 5 missiles per turn..? Oh god.. they will anihhilate every infantry unit on the battlefield.. xD
To bad most people only use minimum infantry.
I would be hard pressed to find an opponent even fielding the 360 points of infantry to even out this guys cost, let alone a squadron of them.
1. Add Early Warning Override.
2. Wait for Grav-Cent-Pods/Skyhammer
3. Profit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 15:48:49
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Merellin wrote:Am I reading this correctly? You can take 3 in a unit, And if they deploy their stabilizers they can fire twice..? So.. 24D6 strength 5 ap 5 missiles per turn..? Oh god.. they will anihhilate every infantry unit on the battlefield.. xD
Not just that--if you deploy their Stabilizers, and you (currently) have an Ethereal performing Convocation of the Elements' bonus Pulse shot, the Pulse Blastcannon will be doling out 6 shots at up to 15" range.
With those 6 shots being Strength D at a range of up to 10".
Or you can have 2 S10 AP2 Ordnance 1, Large Blast shots at up to 36" range if you take a Pulse Driver instead of the Pulse Blastcannon.
As of this point, I fully expect the Ethereal's "bonus Pulse shot" to be altered to read just Carbines and Rifles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 15:51:14
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Assuming EWO still exists you mean... Besides, he is STILL only bs 3. 4d6 s5 missiles that are non TL will get you an average of 14 shots for 7 hits. Since when are 7 s5 hits great? Even against ork boys thats only around 4-5 wounded before cover saves, against marines you will kill a pair or cause a single glance to a rhino.
I like him but he is by no means broken, he will actually be incredibly difficult to use IMO. Automatically Appended Next Post: Kanluwen wrote:Merellin wrote:Am I reading this correctly? You can take 3 in a unit, And if they deploy their stabilizers they can fire twice..? So.. 24D6 strength 5 ap 5 missiles per turn..? Oh god.. they will anihhilate every infantry unit on the battlefield.. xD
Not just that--if you deploy their Stabilizers, and you (currently) have an Ethereal performing Convocation of the Elements' bonus Pulse shot, the Pulse Blastcannon will be doling out 6 shots at up to 15" range.
With those 6 shots being Strength D at a range of up to 10".
Or you can have 2 S10 AP2 Ordnance 1, Large Blast shots at up to 36" range if you take a Pulse Driver instead of the Pulse Blastcannon.
As of this point, I fully expect the Ethereal's "bonus Pulse shot" to be altered to read just Carbines and Rifles.
375 points after the upgrade plus an ethereal for 2 s10 pie plates is not very good mate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:01:09
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Fixture of Dakka
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Red Corsair wrote:Assuming EWO still exists you mean... Besides, he is STILL only bs 3. 4d6 s5 missiles that are non TL will get you an average of 14 shots for 7 hits. Since when are 7 s5 hits great? Even against ork boys thats only around 4-5 wounded before cover saves, against marines you will kill a pair or cause a single glance to a rhino.
I like him but he is by no means broken, he will actually be incredibly difficult to use IMO.
Markerlights will still buff his BS; I highly doubt GW will remove the BS buff option for markerlights.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:02:39
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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they could, id be surprised, upset, and disappointed if they do, but they could.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:06:17
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I like the Stormsurge rules.
Not too powerfull, it's interesting and different from other titans/gargantuam creatures. And the points seem fair.
But I definately will not pre-order the Stormsurge it before i read the whole codex.
As i expected, not my type of Tau unit, i still expect the Gostkeel will be more type of unit, but i like it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:13:46
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well, it's GC LoW, which means in FLG tournaments, you won't be able to take more than one. I doubt that they'll adjust the rules to allow taking of a squad of 3. After all, this isn't IoM
Those seem like pretty reasonable rules, and a decent cost at 360.
I'm excited primarily for the model at this point, as I don't play Tau. Maybe this codex will change my mind, and I'll start a Tau army  But either way, I am definitely buying one. If I can finish up my table, I'll even start him right away... but I have one of those LE Centurions, a tac squad, drop pod, LR Redeemer, and a couple of other things on the go that I had wanted to wrap up
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:18:30
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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The New Miss Macross!
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Kanluwen wrote:Nomeny wrote:Lack of jump capability is going to kill it, especially when it can be caught in close combat by a Assault Squads in a Skyhammer formation.
Somehow, I doubt that "lack of jump capability" is going to be its downfall.
We're talking about a squadronable Garguantuan Creature that is 360 points base with 11 Wounds.
It looks like it is T6 though. That is what would be its downfall.
And the 3+ save. Even with FNP, that puts its survivability versus sustained fire at about the same as some ho hum Nid monstrous creatures.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:18:35
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Fixture of Dakka
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I play Tau AND have a big, stompy robot addiction. Goodbye money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:22:13
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Fixture of Dakka
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Speaking of money, I see Faeit say GBP90 for the price. I guess that will be around USD$148, CAD$179 (some number about between the prices of Knight Warden and Knight Errant) and in Australia... $80,000.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:25:00
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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The New Miss Macross!
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tetrisphreak wrote:
So, a stabilized KV128 for just under 400 Points will fire, PER TURN,
2 S10 AP1 Ordnance Large blasts
8D6 S5 AP5 shots
8 S5 AP5 shots that ignore cover/ LOS
Up to 4 S8 AP1 missiles
2 S4 AP5 Large Blasts that ignore cover, Twin Linked
did i miss anything???
The big gun you're upgrading to is S10 AP2, not 1, Ordnance large blast. Automatically Appended Next Post: Ughh.. BS3 again. Somehow a veteran of at least a decade of warfare armed with a very advanced suit of armor with high tech targeting systems specifically designed for long range shooting has the same marksmanship as a typical guardsman with one or two battles under his belt aiming with an iron sight. At least FW is getting that right with BS4 on their suit. And, yes, I know you can buff that with markerlights but that is a stupid mechanic to force onto the fluff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:36:29
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Furious Fire Dragon
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maceria wrote:Ha! I hear you. A bottle of Lagavulin and a keyboard binge and I could hash a pretty solid rules draft. The hard part is play testing and refinement, which GW seems to notice is hard as well.
I approve your choice of Scotch. Just finished a bottle of Laphroaig a couple of weeks ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:39:36
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Screaming Shining Spear
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warboss wrote: tetrisphreak wrote:
So, a stabilized KV128 for just under 400 Points will fire, PER TURN,
2 S10 AP1 Ordnance Large blasts
8D6 S5 AP5 shots
8 S5 AP5 shots that ignore cover/ LOS
Up to 4 S8 AP1 missiles
2 S4 AP5 Large Blasts that ignore cover, Twin Linked
did i miss anything???
The big gun you're upgrading to is S10 AP2, not 1, Ordnance large blast.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Ughh.. BS3 again. Somehow a veteran of at least a decade of warfare armed with a very advanced suit of armor with high tech targeting systems specifically designed for long range shooting has the same marksmanship as a typical guardsman with one or two battles under his belt aiming with an iron sight. At least FW is getting that right with BS4 on their suit. And, yes, I know you can buff that with markerlights but that is a stupid mechanic to force onto the fluff.
My lore-friendly explanation for the Tau having poor BS is because of their slow reflexes. Being only Initiative 2, and without the thousands of years of experience of the Necrons, they have trouble leading targets and reacting quickly. Their dexterity probably isn't great either, considering they only have three fingers on each hand.
Besides, do you really want a model with this much firepower and the ability to shoot twice having good native accuracy? I don't think so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:39:37
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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warboss wrote: tetrisphreak wrote:
So, a stabilized KV128 for just under 400 Points will fire, PER TURN,
2 S10 AP1 Ordnance Large blasts
8D6 S5 AP5 shots
8 S5 AP5 shots that ignore cover/ LOS
Up to 4 S8 AP1 missiles
2 S4 AP5 Large Blasts that ignore cover, Twin Linked
did i miss anything???
The big gun you're upgrading to is S10 AP2, not 1, Ordnance large blast.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Ughh.. BS3 again. Somehow a veteran of at least a decade of warfare armed with a very advanced suit of armor with high tech targeting systems specifically designed for long range shooting has the same marksmanship as a typical guardsman with one or two battles under his belt aiming with an iron sight. At least FW is getting that right with BS4 on their suit. And, yes, I know you can buff that with markerlights but that is a stupid mechanic to force onto the fluff.
Maybe we will see the return of the targeting array support system???
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:40:38
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Anyone else concerned by the 3+ armour save?
If this only has a 3+ why would a broadside or a riptide have anything better?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:42:19
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Mighty Vampire Count
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God Help us if the Riptide is also a Garg Creature as well :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:42:27
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Orrus wrote:Anyone else concerned by the 3+ armour save?
If this only has a 3+ why would a broadside or a riptide have anything better?
GW apparently had a flash of brilliance and decided that having a Gargantuan Creature with a 2+ save would be too unbalanced and ridiculous considering how durable GCs are already.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:42:50
Subject: Re:Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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At first, this Stormsurge guy looked pretty bleak for me. Effectively a FW gunline and a Medusa combined into a Tyranid-ish Gargauntan Creature. Then, I realized that it can take a shield generator for a 4+ invulnerable, and I began to actually like it  .
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Otherwise, GW should really clear up the thing with GCs firing two-or-maybe-more weapons. Also, no multi-tracker and blacksun filter yet again  . Did the Tau forget how to make these things or what?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:43:29
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Screaming Shining Spear
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I don't think so. My hunch is that this will be the Tau's GC Lord of War, and the Riptide will either stay an MC or (hopefully) be turned into a walker. Automatically Appended Next Post: AtoMaki wrote:At first, this Stormsurge guy looked pretty bleak for me. Effectively a FW gunline and a Medusa combined into a Tyranid-ish Gargauntan Creature. Then, I realized that it can take a shield generator for a 4+ invulnerable, and I began to actually like it  .
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Otherwise, GW should really clear up the thing with GCs firing two-or-maybe-more weapons. Also, no multi-tracker and blacksun filter yet again  . Did the Tau forget how to make these things or what?
Maybe now they have to buy them like every other army!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:46:32
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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TheNewBlood wrote:
I don't think so. My hunch is that this will be the Tau's GC Lord of War, and the Riptide will either stay an MC or (hopefully) be turned into a walker.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
AtoMaki wrote:At first, this Stormsurge guy looked pretty bleak for me. Effectively a FW gunline and a Medusa combined into a Tyranid-ish Gargauntan Creature. Then, I realized that it can take a shield generator for a 4+ invulnerable, and I began to actually like it  .
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Otherwise, GW should really clear up the thing with GCs firing two-or-maybe-more weapons. Also, no multi-tracker and blacksun filter yet again  . Did the Tau forget how to make these things or what?
Maybe now they have to buy them like every other army!
They do buy them, they're included in the cost of the suits/unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:48:15
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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The New Miss Macross!
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TheNewBlood wrote: My lore-friendly explanation for the Tau having poor BS is because of their slow reflexes. Being only Initiative 2, and without the thousands of years of experience of the Necrons, they have trouble leading targets and reacting quickly. Their dexterity probably isn't great either, considering they only have three fingers on each hand. Besides, do you really want a model with this much firepower and the ability to shoot twice having good native accuracy? I don't think so. That's nice that you've made up fanfic to fill in gaping holes but I don't agree. In any case, their tech and AI can easily compensate. Being a great videogame players doesn't make you the best MMA fighters so the two are not 100% comparable. There are plenty of great folks who couldn't last 5 seconds in dodge ball but that can pull off ridiculous twitch combos and shots virtually. Initiative in game is a marker for physical dexterity, not shooting. As for the last part, yes, I'd be fine with that much firepower and the ability to shoot twice IF IT WERE COSTED APPROPRIATELY. That is the point in having a points cost for every unit after all. I mean... it's not like we're playing Age of Sigmar 40,000... yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:52:41
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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Lisbon, Portugal
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Meh. Why GW loves to give us S5 in spades. This thing was conceived to kill Knights. It doesn't kill them.
The blacksun/multitracker thing is very easy to explain (for GW models): all they need is to improve the selection of battlesuits in the wargear descriptions. There aren't Blacksun Filters and Multi-trackers in the wargear dots for Crisis, Broadsides, etc - they're hard-wired and the Armour section of Tau wargear explains all battlesuits have them. GW just need to insert Ghostkeel and Stormsurge to that list.
KX139, on the other hand...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/28 16:59:27
Subject: Tau Rumors: New Crisis Suits? Maybe?. New FireW and 2 Giant Suits? Yep yep yep P13 for Pics
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warboss wrote: TheNewBlood wrote:
My lore-friendly explanation for the Tau having poor BS is because of their slow reflexes. Being only Initiative 2, and without the thousands of years of experience of the Necrons, they have trouble leading targets and reacting quickly. Their dexterity probably isn't great either, considering they only have three fingers on each hand.
Besides, do you really want a model with this much firepower and the ability to shoot twice having good native accuracy? I don't think so.
That's nice that you've made up fanfic to fill in gaping holes but I don't agree. In any case, their tech and AI can easily compensate. Being a great videogame players doesn't make you the best MMA fighters so the two are not 100% comparable. There are plenty of great folks who couldn't last 5 seconds in dodge ball but that can pull off ridiculous twitch combos and shots virtually. Initiative in game is a marker for physical dexterity, not shooting. As for the last part, yes, I'd be fine with that much firepower and the ability to shoot twice IF IT WERE COSTED APPROPRIATELY. That is the point in having a points cost for every unit after all. I mean... it's not like we're playing Age of Sigmar 40,000... yet.
By that same argument you would think that Baneblades, some of the most advanced tanks the imperium has with advanced systems and mechanicus yadda yadda that those would be BS4 too. Nope, BS 3 just like every other Guard vehicle. Unless you buy the extra upgrade on Shadowsword for targeters at the expense of your sponson weapons. Oh yea, Guard don't get markerlights either! They only get the occasional psyker support if they're lucky...sometimes not so lucky...
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