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 tetrisphreak wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/iJTZPmT.jpg

I absolutely adore the fact that the "Destroyer Missile" is Strength 8.

Is this the first LoW choice that can contain more than one? I'm pretty sure it is. That's kinda cool.
I'm digging the statlines. It is making me sincerely question whether or not the Tau will still have the benefits to Pulse Weapons via Ethereals though.

Im workblocked, someone repost??

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Ooh, those are some nice rules.

Edit: and holy ferret-balls you can take three of them in a squad.

Edit: and it seems to go in the fortification slot, and interesting take on tau fortifications. I like it.

I thought that icon was the LOW fist.

Edit - also am I reading the stats correctly (blurry pic) - S6 T6 W8 Gargantuan creature, with a 3+ AS? Not insurmountable stats by any means but for the damage output this thing can manage, especially from turn 2 forward when it's locked in position, is amazing. Which big gun to go with? The pulse blastcannon that gets stronger but more focused at closer ranges, or the driver cannon that's S10 AP1 ordnance all day? i'm thinking S10.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/iJTZPmT.jpg

I absolutely adore the fact that the "Destroyer Missile" is Strength 8.

Is this the first LoW choice that can contain more than one? I'm pretty sure it is. That's kinda cool.
I'm digging the statlines. It is making me sincerely question whether or not the Tau will still have the benefits to Pulse Weapons via Ethereals though.

That symbol is LOW? I thought it looked like fortification?


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I notice that it can take a twinlinked airbursting frag projector. I think this is a hint that it's going non-special.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/iJTZPmT.jpg

I absolutely adore the fact that the "Destroyer Missile" is Strength 8.

Is this the first LoW choice that can contain more than one? I'm pretty sure it is. That's kinda cool.
I'm digging the statlines. It is making me sincerely question whether or not the Tau will still have the benefits to Pulse Weapons via Ethereals though.

That symbol is LOW? I thought it looked like fortification?

Fortification is a bastion, LoW is a clenched fist with spikes. This was spiked fist.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/iJTZPmT.jpg

I absolutely adore the fact that the "Destroyer Missile" is Strength 8.

Is this the first LoW choice that can contain more than one? I'm pretty sure it is. That's kinda cool.
I'm digging the statlines. It is making me sincerely question whether or not the Tau will still have the benefits to Pulse Weapons via Ethereals though.

That symbol is LOW? I thought it looked like fortification?


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I notice that it can take a twinlinked airbursting frag projector. I think this is a hint that it's going non-special.

So, a stabilized KV128 for just under 400 Points will fire, PER TURN,

2 S10 AP1 Ordnance Large blasts
8D6 S5 AP5 shots
8 S5 AP5 shots that ignore cover/LOS
Up to 4 S8 AP1 missiles
2 S4 AP5 Large Blasts that ignore cover, Twin Linked

did i miss anything???

Workblocked... :( repost please so I can join on on tau goodness?


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Found it elsewhere

Looks more like the LoW fist than the Fortification bastion.

Also, PDC all the way. The blastcannon looks meh... 30" max range with the 20"-30" band being a S9 AP5 Large Blast is underwhellming, even if it is 2 shots (2 Strength 10 AP 1 small blasts at 10"-20" is pretty scary, albiet short ranged).

Also lol at the 2 10" SD AP1 shots. WTF is it going to kill with that range.

EDIT: I wonder if each gun has to fire at the same target it fired at in the first volley? I'm guessing no.

Actually only 4 SMS shots. Unless it has been buffed for some reason, and the missiles are one shot (they are literally seekers w/o the marker ability).

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 tetrisphreak wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/iJTZPmT.jpg

I absolutely adore the fact that the "Destroyer Missile" is Strength 8.

Is this the first LoW choice that can contain more than one? I'm pretty sure it is. That's kinda cool.
I'm digging the statlines. It is making me sincerely question whether or not the Tau will still have the benefits to Pulse Weapons via Ethereals though.

That symbol is LOW? I thought it looked like fortification?

Fortification is a bastion, LoW is a clenched fist with spikes. This was spiked fist.

Ah I thought it looked like a little tower.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Actually only 4 SMS shots. Unless it has been buffed for some reason, and the missiles are one shot (they are literally seekers w/o the marker ability).

SMS is currently Heavy 4, so firing it twice would yield 8 SMS shots (I love doing this with a ripple-firing riptide).

Wait. So if this is being published in White Dwarf, wouldnt that be indicative that theTau are not getting a new codex, but rather new units via WD update, similar to the Tyranids some time back?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Wait. So if this is being published in White Dwarf, wouldnt that be indicative that theTau are not getting a new codex, but rather new units via WD update, similar to the Tyranids some time back?

Not really - lately WD has been publishing the rules of all the new kits, then the codex comes out as the last week's release for that particular army. Space Marines most recently saw the rules for Assault Marines, and Devastator marines published when those kits came out ahead of the codex.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Wait. So if this is being published in White Dwarf, wouldnt that be indicative that theTau are not getting a new codex, but rather new units via WD update, similar to the Tyranids some time back?

No, ALL new releases get their rules printed in White Dwarf.

ah, interesting, didn trealize that WD was actually publishing some sort of content now, even if its made redundant a couple weeks later.

All I can say is

That thing is going to wreck face against Knights (especially if take more than one and mix up the big guns). I'd say go back to the ol' FW bubble wrap and have a 'Tide or two for support and maybe some TL melta XV8s to DS in behind. Super excited for the rest of the dex now!

Lack of jump capability is going to kill it, especially when it can be caught in close combat by a Assault Squads in a Skyhammer formation.

Humm, firepower overwhelming. Only has a FNP beyond the 3+ it would seem a bit squishy to enemy fire, assault, and things like grav.

My first thought that with a 3+ save it will be a tasty target for kastealeans with phosphor.

Nomeny wrote:
Lack of jump capability is going to kill it, especially when it can be caught in close combat by a Assault Squads in a Skyhammer formation.

Somehow, I doubt that "lack of jump capability" is going to be its downfall.

We're talking about a squadronable Garguantuan Creature that is 360 points base with 11 Wounds.
It looks like it is T6 though. That is what would be its downfall.


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 buddha wrote:
Humm, firepower overwhelming. Only has a FNP beyond the 3+ it would seem a bit squishy to enemy fire, assault, and things like grav.

My first thought that with a 3+ save it will be a tasty target for kastealeans with phosphor.

Something else that is interesting is that I see no Drone options that are listed.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Nomeny wrote:
Lack of jump capability is going to kill it, especially when it can be caught in close combat by a Assault Squads in a Skyhammer formation.

Somehow, I doubt that "lack of jump capability" is going to be its downfall.

We're talking about a squadronable Garguantuan Creature that is 360 points base with 11 Wounds.
It looks like it is T6 though. That is what would be its downfall.


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 buddha wrote:
Humm, firepower overwhelming. Only has a FNP beyond the 3+ it would seem a bit squishy to enemy fire, assault, and things like grav.

My first thought that with a 3+ save it will be a tasty target for kastealeans with phosphor.

Something else that is interesting is that I see no Drone options that are listed.

It's very blurry, but I think that's 8 (or possibly 9) not 11.

I'm just glad we don't appear to be having another debacle like the Wraithknight. Gargantuan Creatures may suck, but at least this one is appropriately costed and can actually be killed by things other than Gravcent deathstars.

I'm just glad that it has many W's but only a somewhat high save of 3+. No Invul., nu bs. Just wounds.

This is actually kind of encouraging that the new codex won't be massively overpowered. The only thing I'm a bit hesident on is that fact that you can take 3 of them.

The Wise Dane wrote:
I'm just glad that it has many W's but only a somewhat high save of 3+. No Invul., nu bs. Just wounds.

It might be that there is something we are not seeing just yet. Plus it can take Support Systems, meaning it can (likely) take a Shield Generator and other stuff.

Co'tor Shas wrote:
This is actually kind of encouraging that the new codex won't be massively overpowered. The only thing I'm a bit hesident on is that fact that you can take 3 of them.

Really? I like the fact that you can take 3 of them. It suggests that they want people to make squadrons of them--and it makes me think I might get Baneblade Squadrons in C: IG!

 The Wise Dane wrote:
I'm just glad that it has many W's but only a somewhat high save of 3+. No Invul., nu bs. Just wounds.

Don't forget the support systems.

Actually not bad as far as power output goes. I think I like it. It can be killed if the enemy pushes hard against it, it's no T 8 ridiculousness. It can fire a lot but it looks like it's as good as two riptides if it moves and better if it doesn't move. 10" D weapon is actually ok, no powerhouse killing stuff from 48" away, but dangerous enough at close quarters. If a WK loses a charge roll against it then it could find itself in range of 4 str D shots. Not bad.

Overall I think they did a good job at this one. Except for the 1-3 squadron. That's just plain stupid.

I am a little MEH on it and will need to see it function on the table first. I see this as being a first turn dead point sink due to wraithknight spam. Wraith guard will wreck it pretty quick too once in range (turn two). Funny that currently the Riptide has a better save and an invulnerable save. Speculation on does everything fire twice if anchored or just the main gun?

Am I the only one that thinks this is somewhat lacklustre. I was hoping for something that could shoot down a Wraithknight with ease, this is pretty underwhelming in my opinion. Some S10 shooting fair enough but I thought it would at least be shooting 2 strength D shots per turn, at a better range than 10".

Oh joy. Another fething gargantuan creature. WTF GW.

Its an artillery platform, not an anti-vehicle platform. If you expect it to go toe to toe with enemy superheavies, I suspect you will be disappointed (particularly since it has a Tyranid MC statline). If you expect it to lay down a wall of fire on enemy infantry and even some vehicles, you'll have a good time.