New Tau Release: Stormsurge, Ghostkeel, Coldstar, Breachers, Crisis, Tidewall!. Codex coming!

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**Peregrine**

Dr. Delorean wrote:
What you could've done is read the rumoured October release date, budgeted for a Tau release (say, $500-$1000 depending on how spendy you want to be) and save that up over the 3 months or so since the solid rumours about the release date started to surface.

Are you seriously suggesting that I should hold back $500-1000 for a new army release every time there's a rumor of something, just in case I need to grab a limited-edition kit in the 15 minutes before it sells out? I'm sorry, but that's just insane.

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That said, GW is clearly not aiming for the cautious budgeters with their release structure - they want the impulse buyer, the splurger, not us reasonable financiers.

While true, it's also incredibly stupid. "Millionaires with poor impulse control" is not a target market that any sensible game company wants to be limited to.

**maceria**

paulson games wrote:
Dr. Delorean wrote:

This honestly always kinda confuses me. Sure, we don't know for certain what will be coming next, but rumours have indicated for months that Tau would be in October.

What you could've done is read the rumoured October release date, budgeted for a Tau release (say, $500-$1000 depending on how spendy you want to be) and save that up over the 3 months or so since the solid rumours about the release date started to surface.

Then, one of two outcomes would occur:

1. The Tau are released in October as rumoured, you've got your savings stashed away and can spend them gleefully on more plasticrack.

2. The rumours were false, the Tau aren't released, but now you have $500-$1000 to spend on whatever was released instead, or save for Christmas, or spend on booze, or buy your significant other something fancy, etc etc etc.

It's what I do and it works quite well. Either the rumours come true and my savings are ready to go, or they're false and I suddenly have a surplus of discretionary cash to throw around.

That said, GW is clearly not aiming for the cautious budgeters with their release structure - they want the impulse buyer, the splurger, not us reasonable financiers.

My bad perhaps I should have just dipped into my plastic Thunderhawk savings I've been sitting on for the last 15 years since "it's about to release next week". The forums are full of useless misleading info, additionally not everyone is super active online checking for rumors.

When I go to buy a PS4 or Xbox for example I generally have months of lead time to plan for buying a new system or a game. It may not be an exact date but they are pretty transparent about a release schedule, GW used to be that way as well but the black out system they have nowdays sucks. Privateer press still previews all of their upcoming items with distributors and retailers, but they actually want their independent retailers to support them and stock product, where GW would prefer for independent LGS's to feth off and make sure sales only flow to their direct stores and website.

Pfft, I've got like $15k put away for gene stealer cult, and like 40 kilos of coke I plan on trading for Kroot when codex: Kroot mercs comes out.

**agnosto**

So!d out? China ho!!!

**vitae_drinker**

Pretty much. GW is not only pricing themselves out of contention, but high prices with limited supply?

Someone will pick up the slack to fill demand.

**Tinkrr**

Dr. Delorean wrote:

That said, GW is clearly not aiming for the cautious budgeters with their release structure - they want the impulse buyer, the splurger, not us reasonable financiers.

Couldn't they have both? I mean most companies target both as opposed to one or the other.

**Talys**

maceria wrote:
Pfft, I've got like $15k put away for gene stealer cult, and like 40 kilos of coke I plan on trading for Kroot when codex: Kroot mercs comes out.

I think 40 kilos of cocaine pretty much buys you the entire gw collection

Interestingly if you thought GW was outrageous in their pricing in Australia, I read that a kilo of coke is literally fifteen times more expensive in Australia than the USA. It costs $250,000 for 1 kilo in Sidney.

I think therefore, we should convince all the coke users in Australia to boycott narcotics and play 40k instead.

**maceria**

Really, 15x as much? I'm assuming that's straight value, after adjusting for exchange rates? I figured it would be more expensive, being (presumably) a more isolated market, what with all the logistics of not being able to just carry it in through Arizona, but 15x is a pretty hefty adjustment.

**vitae_drinker**

Well, to be fair, Australia is kinda in the middle of the south Pacific. It's not like you can fly cocaine from Columbia to Australia like you can to the US.

**Matt.Kingsley**

Nah our government would rather throw cash at advertisements that have 0 effect.

Kinda like when I throw knives at a picture of Kirby - for some reason it doesn't change the pricing scheme of GW.

**Noctem**

Called local GW and he said the store would most likely not be getting one, called a local flgs and they said the one they will be getting will be a store copy and shared among players, called another one and they said they would hold one for me if they get one. Guess I'll see mid week!

**Talys**

maceria wrote:
Really, 15x as much? I'm assuming that's straight value, after adjusting for exchange rates? I figured it would be more expensive, being (presumably) a more isolated market, what with all the logistics of not being able to just carry it in through Arizona, but 15x is a pretty hefty adjustment.

15x or more! I guess that's one way to solve addiction problems! USD $10-15k near the south (proximity to Mexico). $150k-250k in Australia.

http://www.theage.com.au/it-pro/australian-illegal-drugs-among-worlds-most-expensive-20110616-1g5ie.html

The funny thing is, one time I was trying to google why gw models were more expensive in AU and got that, lol.

**Vineheart01**

Tinkrr wrote:
Vineheart01 wrote:
Got 2 ghostkeels from my FLGS. Didnt get a third since my dumbass forgot to tell them i would be buying 3 lol. Oh well.

The sprues are absolutely amazing. Opened one up in front of the store guy and both of us were just gushing over the pieces lol.
I was surprised how simple the cockpit looks to put together. I fully expected it to be a 5-6 piece thing if you wanted to bother, but no its fused right into the torso halves with a front bit, overhead bit, and of course the suit head.
Totally making my squad leader to have an open cockpit and have her in a pose out of it so i can actually see the cockpit inside (with the model you really cant see jack in there)

Is the open cockpit something you could put under the closed one, or is it made in such a way that you have to pick one or the other?

I really hope it's the former, since then I could magnetize the closed one and play in either form, or take off the enclosure to denote use of the Holopoint system.

I havent tried to assemble them yet because im still painting my stormsurge (good god the way my color scheme is makes that thing a nightmare....im goin on the better of 24hrs of work on that thing already and i still got a lot to do) but the instructions are pretty clear.

The top half that "flips up" when the cockpit is open is what the head is attached to it seems.
Both the top, helmet, and front piece can be glued in open or closed position but they arent designed to move. If youre clever enough you could probably add some small magnets so you can open it up. Personally i really wanted to model one with the pilot legitimately OUT of the cockpit but the lower half is molded into the model itself, so i'd have to get creative to fix that one lol.

**H.B.M.C.**

I think I may have bought two of the Tau terrain box. I think.

**tetrisphreak**

The ghost keel suit has a nifty little "click" that helps keep the cockpit closed when unglued, but a little pressure and it pops open revealing the pilot inside. Once primed and painted I imagine the friction fit will be that much tighter making the need for magnets marginal at best.

**Co'tor Shas**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
I think I may have bought two of the Tau terrain box. I think.

You lucky bastard.

**Chikout**

I took one for the team and downloaded the ghost keel painting guide. (I wish they catered to a higher level of ability)There is one more picture of the new suits

**Vineheart01**

I actually got asked if i wanted to get one of those fortifications by my FLGS since im the only Tau player with any real merit. The other tau players have like 1500pts tops and seldom show their face.
I said no because i still think its a bit douchy to bring fortifications, and i see this thing either being OP as balls with the way we think it works by the description, or being restricted to uselessness with the actual rules (like what i mentioned before about it being unable to go over terrain, even just a barricade).
Wasnt any discount or anything was just a guaranteed getting my hands on one. I never liked any of the fortifications.

Ive dumped enough money for the next few months lol. I still have Wave2 for Star Wars Armada to siphon 160 bucks outta my life for too lol. Pretty much cant buy anything now until january, else i start tapping into bank reserves.

**Tinkrr**

It's good to hear that the Ghostkeel isn't made in such a way where you have to pick if you want the pilot or the out piece, and it's pretty easy to throw a few magnets on just so there's less scratching of the paint.

And yea, I know the pain of certain paint schemes as I never knew just how big the Crisis Suit was until I actually painted one D:

**Vineheart01**

Actually the crisis suits almost broke my color scheme. They dont seem to have anywhere near as many breaks in the armor patterns (as in parts like the stripes on firewarrior/riptide legs). Further made me detest the old crisis suit models lol. I have next to no green or white on them compared to the other models.

Thats why the stormsurge is giving me so many problems. Its absolutely COVERED in those armor gaps lol. Cockpit isnt exactly a cakewalk to paint either im finding. Yeesh....

**Co'tor Shas**

I find that not to be a problem. My colour schemes tend to be based in realism (actual camo for the situation at hand, although that's not limited to greens, browns and grays, plenty of red planets, noxious yellow swamps, and sea-foam green moons, ect) with separations only to mark unit or rank differences.

**Tinkrr**

I actually thought the Crisis Suit had a lot of break points, but it is a giant model. My issue with it is that I'm not very good at painting black that is to be viewed at any distance, so while I thought it looked good close up, when I pan out, it looks like I didn't do much to the black at all x_x

Edit: I'm also on a basically two colour scheme with it being yellow and black D:

**H.B.M.C.**

I like how in a lot of these pictures there are always Hammerheads in the far background, as if to say "Hey guys, remember me? I'm still here! Guys? Guys?".

**Tinkrr**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
I like how in a lot of these pictures there are always Hammerheads in the far background, as if to say "Hey guys, remember me? I'm still here! Guys? Guys?".

Aw, guys, I'm sorry I missed with my 50+ point cannon, I'll do better next turn, I promise D:

**Girrrrrrrrrrr**

Poor hammer heads =[ they look so sad

**Jayden63**

I want hammerheads to be awesome again. For me, its the best looking tank in the game. It was what make me a Tau fanboy all those years ago when the first pics came out. I knew I had to have an army of them.

**Vineheart01**

Tinkrr wrote:
I actually thought the Crisis Suit had a lot of break points, but it is a giant model. My issue with it is that I'm not very good at painting black that is to be viewed at any distance, so while I thought it looked good close up, when I pan out, it looks like I didn't do much to the black at all x_x

Edit: I'm also on a basically two colour scheme with it being yellow and black D:

Its specific kind of breaks that make me color it differently. My imgur album (which for some reason i never put in my siggy until now) has them.

If by black from all angles you mean the edges, try what i usually do. Jet black, get a larger than normal brush (large as you can fit in the area) and drybrush a medium gray. Its hard to see in my pics because i really only do it on the legs but it really makes the edges pop out.
I do a lot of shortcuts in my painting lol. My aim is somewhere between table-top quality and competitive painting. Awesome at a distance, still decent up close but not amazing.

And im with you guys on the hammerhead. I still use it alot since its not USELESS by any means, just not the best option. I always felt it needed to be twinlinked or have tankhunter by default (and make Longstrike give it armorbane) at the cost its at. Only real thing it has going for it is versatility. Its solid shot wrecks vehicles....when it hits lol....but alternatively its subs round can cause a ton of wounds on troops.

**Tinkrr**

I just wish they made the Hammer Head not suck, either by reducing the points massively, or like giving it two Twinlinked (or even not Twin Linked) Heavy Rail Rifles instead of drones, so that it has three solid shots a turn for its points... I dunno.

I love mech armies, I played Mech in Starcraft 2 up to Diamond when it first came out, and I enjoyed the aesthetic of it so much more than 4raks FE or MMM Balls. So it just feels so weird to not have a solid tank option outside of the Skyray. The same goes with Piranha, but at least those I can find ways to make viable, although I wish they gave them a Markerlight option to function as a pseudo Tetra that gained drones at the expense of more Markerlight shots.

I'm just saying I shouldn't hate the Hammerhead, but I so do, despite loving the fortification until I see the points on it.

**MajorWesJanson**

Well, with the range of the Hammerhead, being that far back is realistic, not like those Basilisks that always sit right behind the front lines of the IG.

**Vineheart01**

Giving it heavy rail rifles on the side would be interesting. Would actually use those guns then, since railsides are effin terrible. Significantly more expensive than lascannon toting marines, not as powerful and really only slightly more survivable since just about everything that kills them (least for me) splats them.

That was GW's idea of making the hammerhead more appealing in the current dex. Railsides were op and clearly the better option. They lacked mobility but with 72" S10 AP1 twinlinked guns who the hell cared lol. afaik the hammerhead got a slight price reduction too but not enough.

**Jayden63**

The game has changed so much that anything less than 2 shots will immediately be looked down on. Single shot weapons, regardless of their stats just don't cut it in todays game. The loss of multitrackers (the ability to shoot as fast vehicles) was just the nail in the coffin for them when the last codex dropped.

However, GW did want to sell their newest big stompy robots. I have 5 hammerheads, so its not like I was going to buy another one anyway.