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Requizen wrote:
Now that FBSC doesn't require 3 Broadsides per unit, it's actually a lot more affordable in both $$ and points. Neat.

Yes, but that formation (just THIS formation) got severely nerved compared to the previous FBSC rules. You now have to fire all at the same target, and you lose the preferred enemy (space marine) rule

Tau has been the biggest 40k faction release model-wise since Orks and then Nids, so chances are good for a second Tau-related campaign book. FW models in the campaign? Not likely though.

Added a quick mock up of the new Sept marking for clarity

Looks like the normal one but with some fractures in it. Something about a broken sept perhaps?

Also i seriously wonder if the second campaign will have to do with Shadowsun finding Farsight. She does after all have supposed secret orders to bring the renegade to justice.

Fluff wise, i'd be shocked if she beats him. Gamewise, she would insaspork him long before he gets in range lol. Technically Farsight can instakill her too since shes T3 but she has a 2+ cover majority of the time and shield drones to dump wounds on. Farsight doesnt, hes a lone wolf.

According to ATT, this is Shadowsun's personal Heraldry

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Looks like the normal one but with some fractures in it. Something about a broken sept perhaps?

Also i seriously wonder if the second campaign will have to do with Shadowsun finding Farsight. She does after all have supposed secret orders to bring the renegade to justice.

Fluff wise, i'd be shocked if she beats him. Gamewise, she would insaspork him long before he gets in range lol. Technically Farsight can instakill her too since shes T3 but she has a 2+ cover majority of the time and shield drones to dump wounds on. Farsight doesnt, hes a lone wolf.

A lone wolf with 7 bodyguards.. one of which 'insasporks' (to borrow your fairly fun word there) either of them for fun and profit.. if we're making it about game mechanics

The 7 bodyguard thing is the normal Tau codex rules. In his suppliment, that doesnt exist. Instead its 7 commanders and they may be nearby but they arent right with Farsight.

Even still, she instasporks his bodyguards too and has a bigger jump. Doubt she'd weather the firepower from 7 bodyguards and farsight long enough though lol.

And yeah instaspork is a word i picked up from a friend of mine. "SPORKED!" instead of instant death lol

Shadowsun has more viability gamewise than Farsight but only because she actually shoots and has units that shes good in. Farsight doesnt. Thats always been my biggest complaint about him - its Farsight Bomb or no farsight because his good rules simply are wasted in our army.
Fluffwise, SHES the lone wolf but not in the same sense. She waits patiently for her target and ambushes them. Farsight is quick enough to most likely avoid the initial strike but who knows after that.

I'm defiantly using "Sporked!" next time I play.

Just crossed my mind, can you use the Taucurion's run shoot special rule with the ethereal invocation to move, run, snapshoot, run?
Derp, nvm.

Still not up for pre-order in Oz. C'mon GW. We're only a few hours away from the Kiwis. Get with the program!

I think I feel fairly confident saying O'Vesa could take Shadowsun pretty much any day of the week. Just saying

But yeah, it's all just for laughs. And honestly I'd be shocked if she in some way overcomes or kills him in the fluff. The unstoppable seemingly eternal "demon" tau general wielding life stealing Old Ones tech? Yeah good luck with that.

I really hope he gets EW. The tau still lack something with it, and for a model like him to constantly be killed by stray battlecannon shots is really annoying.

Farsight is the only thing in our dex that makes sense to have EW. I mean, in the fluff hes an eternal killing machine that has lived centuries, yet he dies stupid stupid fast in the game.

4 wound model with EW. Farsight would suddenly become viable for once because he could actually leave his crisis suits to charge something and not worry about battlecannons or rokkits immediately after.
I mean, they'd still hurt him obviously, but not 1shot

 SinisterSamurai wrote:
This guy found some English Burning Dawn pics.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/167888706682800/permalink/589401141198219/

Spoiler:

The back of the blister slip for the Etheral shows his normal rules. "Aun'Do" is exclusive to Burning Dawn, but "Ethereal on Hover Drone" will not be. Pathfinder instructions remain unchanged, but Piranha and Stealth Suits have rules in them.


75 pts, HQ

closer elements


Stealth Team Darktide, 125 pts, Elite.


PAthfinder team Aurora, Fast Attack, 240.


Tireless Hunter (Piranha), Fast Attack 55 points


Burning Dawn Cadre

Back of book rules














back of book profiles, Burning Dawn Cadre:

Added image tags.

Aussie pre-orders are up.

Hmm, wonder if the markerlights have a separate section for missiles. That pic is devoid of seekers and destroyers unless im completely blind.

A note about pricing. In the UK the broadside and commander are the same price. In Japan the broadside is 6300 yen. The commander is 7000 yen

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Hmm, wonder if the markerlights have a separate section for missiles. That pic is devoid of seekers and destroyers unless im completely blind.

That is only because the campaign box does not include any models that can use missiles. That info will be in the codex

notredameguy10 wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Hmm, wonder if the markerlights have a separate section for missiles. That pic is devoid of seekers and destroyers unless im completely blind.

That is only because the campaign box does not include any models that can use missiles. That info will be in the codex

Campaign book is suppose to include all the new rules. We are suppose to not require the new codex if we have the 6th one.

I think he means the Burning Dawn book, which only includes the stuff in the box.

The Kauyon book is supposed to include the new formations that will be in the codex.

Ohhh..

derp

Has the softcover codex rumor been debunked yet? On the Aus site, it is listed as a 128pg hardcover.

It's softcover for non-english release. English versions are hardcover.

If anyone wanted a Tau Tidewall Rampart in the Metro Vancouver area but couldn't get one, I have a reservation at a local independent that you're welcome to.

I've already gotten two, so I'm good Free, of course. PM me for details if you want.


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GreyDragoon wrote:
It's softcover for non-english release. English versions are hardcover.

Ahhh I see. Thank you, and cool (for English speaking folks anyhow). I think I would have passed on the softcover.

So perhaps this was already discussed, but is there any clear indication of what is in the "codex" vs the campaign book? Is there anything exclusive to the campaign book other than obviously the campaign and some fluff? Are all the new formations going to be in the codex re release?

It is really going to tick me off if GW is going to force me to buy a campaign book just to get my formations when, as far as I know that has never been the case. I have absolutely zero use for the campaign, I don't run campaigns, I have absolutely no use for a $75 book of which I'll use maybe 10 pages.

So, is it more worth it for me to get the re release dex or will I just end up having to buy the campaign book anyway? The way they're marketing this is extremely confusing. "Come buy this codex because it has everything you need, BUT if you have April 2013 Tau ALL you need is this $75 book which is more expensive than the codex!", this doesn't make sense to me at all.

So the collectors edition sold out, and the rest of the world couldn't even order it. Lol

reaper501 wrote:So perhaps this was already discussed, but is there any clear indication of what is in the "codex" vs the campaign book? Is there anything exclusive to the campaign book other than obviously the campaign and some fluff? Are all the new formations going to be in the codex re release?

It is really going to tick me off if GW is going to force me to buy a campaign book just to get my formations when, as far as I know that has never been the case. I have absolutely zero use for the campaign, I don't run campaigns, I have absolutely no use for a $75 book of which I'll use maybe 10 pages.

So, is it more worth it for me to get the re release dex or will I just end up having to buy the campaign book anyway? The way they're marketing this is extremely confusing. "Come buy this codex because it has everything you need, BUT if you have April 2013 Tau ALL you need is this $75 book which is more expensive than the codex!", this doesn't make sense to me at all.

There are two ways you can have all the rules/formations: either the old codex + campaign book or just get the new codex. As far as I know there's nothing in the campaign book (besides obviously the campaign stuff) that you won't get in the new codex.

Triszin wrote:So the collectors edition sold out, and the rest of the world couldn't even order it. Lol

I'm hoping they throttled the amount that could be purchased before it goes up....kinda ticked that it's 3pm in Korea and still no pre-order on the ever ambiguous 'rest of the world' site.

Triszin wrote:
So the collectors edition sold out, and the rest of the world couldn't even order it. Lol

They have a certain amount for each area I believe, so when it goes up in other countries they still have a chance to order it.

Its 7:25 and still no Codex Pre-order in the UK yet......
What time are pre orders usually up in the UK?

 Talys wrote:
If anyone wanted a Tau Tidewall Rampart in the Metro Vancouver area but couldn't get one, I have a reservation at a local independent that you're welcome to.

I've already gotten two, so I'm good Free, of course. PM me for details if you want.


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GreyDragoon wrote:
It's softcover for non-english release. English versions are hardcover.

Ahhh I see. Thank you, and cool (for English speaking folks anyhow). I think I would have passed on the softcover.

You live in Metro Vancouver? And we haven't played a game? Or I somehow haven't seen your gorgeous Blood Angels in person?!

This is truly heresy.