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Just came into to say the War Zone Damocles: Kauyon book looks AWESOME! Love the 90s Manga style art on the covers, and having a new book full of campaign specific fluff that will sit alongside the old codex rather than just having to update the codex is a great idea!

GW really hit the mark this time.

 Wilson wrote:

It's also only an email & you get different answers from those guys all the time so that's why itc create their own errata.

They should more change it due to consistant wording in the 6e Tau Codex (and 7e codex if they didn't change it) about treating overwatch as a shooting phase, "can only be used in the shooting phase, but not during overwatch."
That and the complete rules breakdown for heavy weapons.

Hopefully they keep their word and we actually get some FAQs.

Any word on if the flyers had any changes done to them to help make them more attractive on the table top?

 Jayden63 wrote:
Any word on if the flyers had any changes done to them to help make them more attractive on the table top?

Unit stats unchanged AFAWK. Formation gives benefits.

Warhams-77 wrote:


A) the leaks posted by Iuchiban on Warseer are not from Kauyon

B) not the english Codex and

C) that he mentions three times throughout the day it is the spanish Codex.

But they still post their news articles and create lots of confusion especially by insisting the english Codex would be softcover. How can you not get such a quite easy research work done right especially A and B? Do they even read the posts on Warseer before creating their articles?

Rob also said in his preview of the Tau Commander White Dwarf issue that the new commander is a good deal because you get the both models of Coldstar AND Enforcer in the box for $50 which comes out to $25 each. I suppose he didn't notice that you only get one model for that price (plus drones) and you have to choose between the two options. I appreciate his unboxing videos but I take his news, rumors, and reviews with a bit of salt usually.

 Crazyterran wrote:
No, because they get paid to generate clicks, and saying 'tau codex is soft cover' will get you scare clicks.

^^^ this, plus the pop up ads on iOS devices made me stop reading their site.

I for one welcome our new fishy ambassadors of the one true gaming lord that is GW (first of his name).

If GW's new business model is to create "living" rulesets that are almost free. I'm totally down with it. I like the idea of updating each codex every few years to balance things out and add new models. It keeps the game fresh IMO. And, it has the added benefit of making tournament gamers' lives difficult.

Maybe with this new Tau release, GW is finally going all in on the "we are a model company". I think the new Fire Warrior kit further presses the gas peddle on this idea. I have a bunch of old Tau Fire Warrior squads. I bought 4 boxes of the new models, not just because I want the new guns, but also because I want the cool new poses. One reason I play table top mini games is to have cool models on the table and these new Fire Warriors are cooler than my old ones. So, GW sucessfully sold me models that I didn't really need.

Which is exactly what I think their plan is.

evancich wrote:
I have a bunch of old Tau Fire Warrior squads. I bought 4 boxes of the new models, not just because I want the new guns, but also because I want the cool new poses. One reason I play table top mini games is to have cool models on the table and these new Fire Warriors are cooler than my old ones. So, GW sucessfully sold me models that I didn't really need.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but from looking at the sprues it doesn't appear they resculpted anything. They just recut the sprues to add in the additional breacher heads, guns, and shoulder pads, as well as the missile turrets and drones. Strike teams made from the new kit will look identical to those made from the old kit.

evancich wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
No, because they get paid to generate clicks, and saying 'tau codex is soft cover' will get you scare clicks.

^^^ this, plus the pop up ads on iOS devices made me stop reading their site.

I for one welcome our new fishy ambassadors of the one true gaming lord that is GW (first of his name).

If GW's new business model is to create "living" rulesets that are almost free. I'm totally down with it. I like the idea of updating each codex every few years to balance things out and add new models. It keeps the game fresh IMO. And, it has the added benefit of making tournament gamers' lives difficult.

Maybe with this new Tau release, GW is finally going all in on the "we are a model company". I think the new Fire Warrior kit further presses the gas peddle on this idea. I have a bunch of old Tau Fire Warrior squads. I bought 4 boxes of the new models, not just because I want the new guns, but also because I want the cool new poses. One reason I play table top mini games is to have cool models on the table and these new Fire Warriors are cooler than my old ones. So, GW sucessfully sold me models that I didn't really need.

Which is exactly what I think their plan is.

While I would not mind this, I can't agree with your statement that it is "almost free". A lot of people bought the Tau codex what, two years ago? For $50. Now they either need to buy the new one for $50, for a handful of new pages, or buy the $75 campaign book.
I would not call $100-$125 "almost free". If it was a true update, where they went through and adjusted point costs, special rules, equipment, and did their very best to make the codex at least internally balanced, I wouldn't mind buying the new book nearly as much.
But when you copy and paste 95% of the book, and try and charge the same price again. That's not "almost free" for a "living ruleset". That's more like finding a way to drag every cent out of you that they can for the rules to play.

Good news for me. I love the look of the Strikers anyways. Very iconic unit. Breachers look cool but I can't ever see myself having a few of them made simply to field a minimum squad.

Right now I'm sitting on a box of the old FW and I have 12 already painted and assembled. I'll likely at some point in the far future grab two boxes of FW's and make a dozen more strikers then whatever is left as Breachers.

Oh, I like them too. It's just a bummer for the above poster who bought four unneeded boxes of them just for "cool new poses". He'll get cool new missile turrets, and can make breacher teams, but if all he wanted was to upgrade his existing strike teams, he'll be disappointed.

Oh agree. Let's hope he takes the news well. He rages at Riptides. So I may as well oblige right? Haha.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Hunter Contingent Gamgee Trolls his Tyranid Friend:
Command: Nadda

Hunter Cadre:
3 Strikers 5 man Each
1 Unit of 3 Riptides with Target Locks and Ion Accelerators
3 Units of Pathfinders 4 man
1 Stormsurge w/ shield and the one with Anti-Air

Auxiliary: Retaliation Cadre
Commander
3 Units of Crisis one unit each with Missiles Pods
1 Broadside with HYMP and Plasma Rifles
1 Riptide

Have some points to spare to flavor as necessary.

 Gamgee wrote:

Hunter Cadre:
3 Strikers 5 man Each
1 Unit of 3 Riptides with Target Locks and Ion Accelerators
3 Units of Pathfinders 4 man
1 Stormsurge w/ shield and the one with Anti-Air

IIRC you need another commander for the hunter cadre.

Ah so I do. I'll squeeze him in somewhere. I'll get rid of the SS's shields and maybe one Pathfinder team to fit him in. So how would you rate this for maximum Riptide rage levels? I suppose I can settle for one less Riptide in the 3 man and still be troll worthy since I also need a Body Guard. Hmm I'll need to rework it a bit. Give me a few mins here.

redcapscorner wrote:

evancich wrote:
I have a bunch of old Tau Fire Warrior squads. I bought 4 boxes of the new models, not just because I want the new guns, but also because I want the cool new poses. One reason I play table top mini games is to have cool models on the table and these new Fire Warriors are cooler than my old ones. So, GW sucessfully sold me models that I didn't really need.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but from looking at the sprues it doesn't appear they resculpted anything. They just recut the sprues to add in the additional breacher heads, guns, and shoulder pads, as well as the missile turrets and drones. Strike teams made from the new kit will look identical to those made from the old kit.

You're not the "bearer" of any news, because you're wrong.

They did resculpt things--just not in the sense that you are thinking of where a "resculpt" is an entirely new set from start to finish. If you actually took some time to look at the kit in person?
There is detail which was not present before. The armor plates on the legs are a lot crisper for example.

The legs especially on the old Firewarriors were bad. The armor on some of them melded into the pants, the lines were terrible, and there wasnt any difference between their "boot" and their hoofed toes.

Theyre definitely recasted. That doesnt mean the model changed, it means theyre recut and therefore cleaner.

That being said, i aint buying any lol. Im not a fan of the breachers, though considering my random playstyle i may want them eventually, and i have 50 firewarriors as it is lol. Especially at that cost.

Deadawake1347 wrote:
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While I would not mind this, I can't agree with your statement that it is "almost free". A lot of people bought the Tau codex what, two years ago? For $50. Now they either need to buy the new one for $50, for a handful of new pages, or buy the $75 campaign book.
I would not call $100-$125 "almost free". If it was a true update, where they went through and adjusted point costs, special rules, equipment, and did their very best to make the codex at least internally balanced, I wouldn't mind buying the new book nearly as much.
But when you copy and paste 95% of the book, and try and charge the same price again. That's not "almost free" for a "living ruleset". That's more like finding a way to drag every cent out of you that they can for the rules to play.

When I bought the $150 Tau big robot thing, it came with a USB drive that had the rules on it. The rules for the $75 Ghost-whatever are in a WD that I already subscribe to.

Those = "almost free" to me.

It looks like the new Tau codex is not the only place to get the new rules and if the rumors are correct, most of the existing units are the same. So, having the codex already and the models and GW sending the rules my way, is pretty much "almost free" in my book.

Are the new Tau Codexes out today or just up for preorder? Had someone asking for them saying they'd gone up for preorder last week but I've not got any in here.

Will be up in the US at some point

Just came up, got my order in.

Deadawake1347 wrote:

evancich wrote:

 Crazyterran wrote:
No, because they get paid to generate clicks, and saying 'tau codex is soft cover' will get you scare clicks.

^^^ this, plus the pop up ads on iOS devices made me stop reading their site.

I for one welcome our new fishy ambassadors of the one true gaming lord that is GW (first of his name).

If GW's new business model is to create "living" rulesets that are almost free. I'm totally down with it. I like the idea of updating each codex every few years to balance things out and add new models. It keeps the game fresh IMO. And, it has the added benefit of making tournament gamers' lives difficult.

Maybe with this new Tau release, GW is finally going all in on the "we are a model company". I think the new Fire Warrior kit further presses the gas peddle on this idea. I have a bunch of old Tau Fire Warrior squads. I bought 4 boxes of the new models, not just because I want the new guns, but also because I want the cool new poses. One reason I play table top mini games is to have cool models on the table and these new Fire Warriors are cooler than my old ones. So, GW sucessfully sold me models that I didn't really need.

Which is exactly what I think their plan is.

While I would not mind this, I can't agree with your statement that it is "almost free". A lot of people bought the Tau codex what, two years ago? For $50. Now they either need to buy the new one for $50, for a handful of new pages, or buy the $75 campaign book.
I would not call $100-$125 "almost free". If it was a true update, where they went through and adjusted point costs, special rules, equipment, and did their very best to make the codex at least internally balanced, I wouldn't mind buying the new book nearly as much.
But when you copy and paste 95% of the book, and try and charge the same price again. That's not "almost free" for a "living ruleset". That's more like finding a way to drag every cent out of you that they can for the rules to play.

I refuse to give GW another cent, but I really want to see the new codex when it comes out.

The Internet is a wonderful place.

Kanluwen wrote:
They did resculpt things--just not in the sense that you are thinking of where a "resculpt" is an entirely new set from start to finish. If you actually took some time to look at the kit in person?
There is detail which was not present before. The armor plates on the legs are a lot crisper for example.

Vineheart01 wrote:The legs especially on the old Firewarriors were bad. The armor on some of them melded into the pants, the lines were terrible, and there wasnt any difference between their "boot" and their hoofed toes.

Theyre definitely recasted. That doesnt mean the model changed, it means theyre recut and therefore cleaner.

What GW seem to have been doing over the last few years for updating older kits is to 3D-scan the old components into their CAD system. They then add details or make amendments to work better with modern plastic molding (change where the sprue attaches, split a part into smaller components, or add room for a new option). The 3D CAD file can then automatically produce a new injection mold.
This process is really obvious for kits like the Hive Tyrant; some of the new plastic components are identical to the old metal/resin ones while others have been subtlety tweaked.

Quite frankly i dont know how people managed to make these models without 3D scanning/modeling technology. I mean, that is the reason there are so many wargames popping up now because of 3D printing and such. Bunch of them ive found are actually kinda cool, but because its a tabletop game you gotta find people to play it - which sucks.

Found one that was basically a campaign-sized game (think DnD) with 3-6 people. Youre suppose to play the same game once or twice a week for a few months. The game? Monster Hunter in miniature format. Yeah, no joke, and its awesome as hell (wish i could remember the name). All made possible by 3D printing.

 Bottle wrote:
Just came into to say the War Zone Damocles: Kauyon book looks AWESOME! Love the 90s Manga style art on the covers, and having a new book full of campaign specific fluff that will sit alongside the old codex rather than just having to update the codex is a great idea!

GW really hit the mark this time.

Yeah, there is definitely a 90's Manga style to the campaign book cover That whole thing about judging a book by its cover... If I do buy the campaign set, it will be 100% because of the cover, lol. And because the codex has the same cover as the old codex. I'm still not sure which I'll buy -- or both -- I'll wait til more leaks come out, I guess.

Is it just me or does Taucurion seem very unwieldy because of the amount of models you need to play it like seriously why so many commanders?

Looks like the LE codex is sold out in the EU, guess there are enough crazy people willing to pay for it .

So wait. You need a Commander for the Command Formation, and then ANOTHER for the basic formation?

Exactly what I was thinking

On the other hand, it does mean that you don't need to take the command formation in order to get a commander.
However, I think I would have preferred it to be an option between taking a commander and a fireblade, or it was a 0-1 option so that you didn't always have to take a commander.

But if I want an ethereal I would need 2 commanders with a tacked on bodyguard squad,see my problem?

Deadawake1347 wrote:
On the other hand, it does mean that you don't need to take the command formation in order to get a commander.
However, I think I would have preferred it to be an option between taking a commander and a fireblade, or it was a 0-1 option so that you didn't always have to take a commander.

But commanders aren't bad models whatsoever. Having 2 isn't really a detriment.