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So there isn't any mention about whether or not you can link up the Gun Rig/Drone Ports to a shield line (like you are able to with the Rampart)

Does that mean if you take a Shield Line and a Gun Rig, they have to remain unattached to each other?

LighthouseM wrote:
So there isn't any mention about whether or not you can link up the Gun Rig/Drone Ports to a shield line (like you are able to with the Rampart)

Does that mean if you take a Shield Line and a Gun Rig, they have to remain unattached to each other?

Yes. Only the Tidewall allows you to add new pieces


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Girrrrrrrrrrr wrote:just had a thought, Drones with a drone controler firing the gunrig =D

Do you mean a commander with drone controller in a drone unit, which is on the gunrig?

MoD_Legion wrote:
Eh? The gunrigs are battlefield debris item thingie-ma-bobs arent they? (At least I haven't seen any stat lines for em) Meaning you cant remove them from the field. As long as you have a model to place next to it you can keep it shooting.

they're defence lines, but in the core rulebook, if you look at gun emplacements, it will explain that they have a statline, can be destroyed and even charged.
You can lose the gun, but the disk remains. The disk is invulnerable.

 Vector Strike wrote:

they're defence lines, but in the core rulebook, if you look at gun emplacements, it will explain that they have a statline, can be destroyed and even charged.
You can lose the gun, but the disk remains. The disk is invulnerable.

Ah that's a bummer then, I never really play with gun emplacements and actual buildings so I"m not that familiar with their rules.

Hey guys, didn't see this posted, so here you go


WHITE DWARF WEEKLY 93 (ENGLISH) 4
WARHAMMER: VISIONS 22 (ENGLISH) 12
TAU EMPIRE TIDEWALL GUNRIG Plastic Box 60
TAU EMPIRE TIDEWALL SHIELDLINE Plastic Box 55
TAU EMPIRE TIDEWALL DRONEPORT Plastic Box 50
BATTLETOME: SERAPHON (ENGLISH) Book (HB) 49.5
BATTLETOME: SERAPHON (FRENCH) Book (HB) 49.5
SERAPHON SAURUS WARRIORS Plastic Box 38
SERAPHON SKINKS Plastic Box 35
SERAPHON BASTILADON Plastic Box 60
SERAPHON STEGADON Plastic Box 58
SERAPHON CARNOSAUR Plastic Box 85
SERAPHON SAURUS KNIGHTS Plastic Box 35
SERAPHON SAURUS GUARD Plastic Box 55
SERAPHON TERRADON RIDERS Plastic Box 60
SKINK STARPRIEST Plastic Clam 20
SERAPHON THUNDERBEAST HOST Plastic Box 210
GAUNTS GHOSTS:GUNS OF TANITH (N/AMERICA) Novel 14
REALMGATE WARS: SANDS OF BLOOD (AUDIOBK) Audio Book 17.5
CHAMELEON SKINKS Finecast Clam 25 - DIRECT ONLY!
SERAPHON SAURUS ETERNITY WARDEN Finecast Clam 20 - DIRECT ONLY!
SAURUS SUNBLOOD Finecast Clam 25 - DIRECT ONLY!
SKINK PRIEST WITH FEATHERED CLOAK Finecast Clam 16 - DIRECT ONLY!
SAURUS SCAR VETERAN ON COLD ONE Finecast Clam 17 - DIRECT ONLY!
KROXIGOR Finecast Box 52 - DIRECT ONLY!
LORD KROAK Finecast Box 50 - DIRECT ONLY!
SERAPHON RAZORDON Finecast Box 30 - DIRECT ONLY!
SERAPHON SALAMANDER Finecast Box 30 - DIRECT ONLY!
SAURUS STARGLYPH BEARER Finecast Box 22 - DIRECT ONLY!
SLANN STARMASTER Finecast Box 50 - DIRECT ONLY!
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Thanks, Judgedoug!

Lot of people dont. Gun emplacements are usually reserved for scenarios since most people dont normally use fortifications. Only guy i know that even owns the Rampart or that "bunker" thing never uses it except in apoc gameplay because its simply too large and heavily overpowered in a standard game.

ADL is the most common way you'll see a gun emplacement but that seems to have vanished ive noticed. I have it as well but i literally never use it.

I imagine the tidewall will be the same as the rampart. Yes, you can bring it in a normal game, you probably wont though due purely to the size of it.

I like the ADL, but as Vineheart says, that's the only fortification I've seen used (outside of Adepticon).

I just spend $203 on a book, and 4 models. What is life?

So I'm late to the codex leak party.

Looks like 99% copy/paste from the last one?

Plus formations and some new units.

Uh-yep. So if you pick up the Kauyon set you get all the rules, plus the formations.

Formations aside the only real difference is 3 new units, firewarriors getting the admittedly cool sounding turret thingie, squadrons of riptides/hammerheads/skyrays as well as Fire Team (+1BS when theres 3 MCs or Vehicles as long as one of them has this rule....yea its a pretty janky wording), and CIB/AFB are no longer unique guns. Oh and crisis suits are in squads of 1-9 now apparently.

No statline or cost changes. No new gun options aside from the before mentioned CIB/AFB being widely available instead of unique.

The formations though....eeeeesh they completely revamp how tau are going to play.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Formations aside the only real difference is 3 new units, firewarriors getting the admittedly cool sounding turret thingie, squadrons of riptides/hammerheads/skyrays as well as Fire Team (+1BS when theres 3 MCs or Vehicles as long as one of them has this rule....yea its a pretty janky wording), and CIB/AFB are no longer unique guns. Oh and crisis suits are in squads of 1-9 now apparently.

No statline or cost changes. No new gun options aside from the before mentioned CIB/AFB being widely available instead of unique.

The formations though....eeeeesh they completely revamp how tau are going to play.

Don't forget the FMCommander

And Ethereals can take Recon Armor and a Hover Drone.

Really wish the mini-turrets were sold separately..

In other news, sheesh look at all the lizardman stuff that went direct only.

What do people currently think with everything leaked so far ala formations, new units, new rules etc... will be the most competitive way to run the Tau in future? For myself I think that Stormsurge's and Hunter Contingent will be a major part of it. Also I think the Optimised Stealth Cadre formation has real potential. What do we think Dakka, what will be the go too units and formations for the tournament gamer?

Thanks Judge!

Any idea on the content of the Tau Boxes?

While the Gunrig and Droneport seem straightforward, interested to see if there are one or two Shieldlines, and whether the Control Platform from the Tidewall Box is included as well.

Reese wrote:
Thanks Judge!

Any idea on the content of the Tau Boxes?

While the Gunrig and Droneport seem straightforward, interested to see if there are one or two Shieldlines, and whether the Control Platform from the Tidewall Box is included as well.

The Control Platform is part of the Shieldlines.

 agnosto wrote:
Really wish the mini-turrets were sold separately..

In other news, sheesh look at all the lizardman stuff that went direct only.

While i agree the turret should be available on its own, flipside its just a drone hiding behind a cylinder wall. Literally. Im pretty sure we all have dozens of drone bits lying around. Either find something about the right width and cut it up or just use plasticard to make the cylinder..bam turret.

And yeah i cant believe i forgot about the "FMC" Commander. While its not amazing by any means its fun as hell sounding and i fully intend to be a dick with it lol

Does anyone know if a Broadside can fit on a shield line? If on top of a shield line, is 25% of the Broadside obscured?

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Oh and crisis suits are in squads of 1-9 now apparently.

Wait...what? Awesome if actually the case!

 wyomingfox wrote:
Does anyone know if a Broadside can fit on a shield line? If on top of a shield line, is 25% of the Broadside obscured?

The review the photos are from (not mine) shows several Tau units occupying the fortifications - the text is german but there are lots of photos spread throughout. The Broadside should be hidden BEHIND the walls + shields but not if standing on the rigs without the shields. There is no place to put them onto the shieldwalls anyway.

http://www.gamestrust.de/test,warhammer-40-000-tau-empire-tidewall-rampart-test,id1752,2.html

That's pretty cool, definitely going to have to think about bringing a shield section to put stuff behind/on instead of an Aegis line.

Quick question to anyone with the codex confirm the exact rules for the Hunter Cadre as in bonuses - I know that you get defensive/supporting fire at 12" and the run shoot thing (is it true that to do this you have to be within 12" of the commander?)

I really want one of these shield walls just to have for some different terrain. Probably won't even use it that much.

 Vash108 wrote:
I really want one of these shield walls just to have for some different terrain. Probably won't even use it that much.

Just print out the pic above and put your models over the ones in the pic

 wyomingfox wrote:
Does anyone know if a Broadside can fit on a shield line? If on top of a shield line, is 25% of the Broadside obscured?

Looking at mine, a Broadside is 25% obscured by the shield line, so he can definitely get the cover save from it. As for fitting on it, that's a bit trickier. Approximately 75 to 80% of the 60mm base fits on the Shield line, and the Broadside does rest on it (When placed on the shield line as much as possible, the Broadside model sits on the line without leaning off/touching the board behind the Shield line). However, it does not fit 100% on the line. Probably will depend on how you play it. Personally I play that when it comes to cover and placing models, if you can place it, it can do there. For example, if I'm playing with one of the official GW ruins pieces, I can't place a 60mm base fully on the second or third levels, but I can rest the model on the levels. So, when I'm playing, a 60mm based model can be placed up there if he rests without falling off.

If you play it that way, then yes you can easily place Broadsides on the shield line, claim the cover save, and move around (how I'm personally going to play it). If not, then you can get the cover save, but can't have the shield line drive your Broadsides across the board. Of course if you're using the old Broadsides on 40mm bases, you're good to go!

Tau Skyfire wrote:
Quick question to anyone with the codex confirm the exact rules for the Hunter Cadre as in bonuses - I know that you get defensive/supporting fire at 12" and the run shoot thing (is it true that to do this you have to be within 12" of the commander?)

It looks like it says within 12" of the commander or the fireblade, if one is taken, to gain the run then shoot ability.

Remember that the Shieldline has a special rule that is not the same as normal Cover rules.

Do we know yet if the shield line kit comes with 2 end pieces as well as the donut or just one?

Must be about time to lock this thread surely?