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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/28 18:52:33
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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If you want instructions for the Valks, you need to go online.
The mono-pose KD kits are generally easy. But tell me, did you build your Phoenix without any instructions?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/28 19:08:04
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Regular Dakkanaut
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JohnHwangDD wrote:If you want instructions for the Valks, you need to go online.
The mono-pose KD kits are generally easy. But tell me, did you build your Phoenix without any instructions? 
I got about 2/3 of the way through the little hands before I had to get help from online. I can tell they really learned from the early kits when I got to the lonely tree. There's a daunting number of chains and straps but they all only fit in one place.
Back on topic: I really do like the female suits, but if this print is based on how the parts are expected to be laid out, they appear to have the same problem the Valkyries have: every single part being bisected vertically. Makes the sprues nice and flat, but every piece needs a whole lot of liquid green stuff to make it look decent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/28 19:26:25
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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OK, just checking. I built my stuff with just (Bandai & Arii) box art references. Some of the Valk arms needed a little work to fit properly, but nothing I hadn't seen before.
For the FPAs, they look OK, and I don't care that much about the bisected pieces - being round in cross-section, there aren't really any good alternatives at this scale, short of a solid part, which is likely infeasible for injection plastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/28 22:31:31
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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DriveThruRPG has some of the new instructions for the model kits that do a bit better job, see this link:
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/browse.php?keywords=robotech&author=&artist=&pfrom=&pto=&x=0&y=0
I feel every starter box needs an "addendum" kit to slap on it to make sure people do not assemble "blind".
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/29 02:11:49
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Dakka Veteran
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Rainyday wrote: JohnHwangDD wrote:If you want instructions for the Valks, you need to go online.
The mono-pose KD kits are generally easy. But tell me, did you build your Phoenix without any instructions? 
I got about 2/3 of the way through the little hands before I had to get help from online. I can tell they really learned from the early kits when I got to the lonely tree. There's a daunting number of chains and straps but they all only fit in one place.
Back on topic: I really do like the female suits, but if this print is based on how the parts are expected to be laid out, they appear to have the same problem the Valkyries have: every single part being bisected vertically. Makes the sprues nice and flat, but every piece needs a whole lot of liquid green stuff to make it look decent.
Look, pal, bisecting every piece vertically is the only way to do these miniatures and preserve the fantastic, almost quantum, detail! Anything else you've seen from another manufacturer, that does not involve vertical bisection, is strictly a figment of your imagination. Or they were crappy miniatures with almost no detail whatsoever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/30 03:41:03
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Innocent SDF-1 Bridge Bunny
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The FPA has the same problem as the vf-1, it has straight legs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/30 11:11:49
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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more nothing new here...move along.
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Dimensional Warfare
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0VSNzmthd1vVlVfU3BadVd2MVk |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/30 11:34:56
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Using Inks and Washes
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Dagnabbit, Mike. You just spoilered the entire PBWU. [for the next 6 months!]
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"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/30 14:25:22
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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This is what Palladium games was going to announce at Adepticon...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/30 14:33:27
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Regular Dakkanaut
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That SDF-1 looks like it was scratch built from plasticard. It kind of reminds me of some heavy gear models in a way. I hope they have someone go over it with some putty to touch it up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/30 15:32:55
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Using Inks and Washes
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No, that can't be right. If you don't think it's the best thing ever, then that's because someone other than Kev forgot to wipe all the 'mouth-water' from the model and the lens of the camera before taking the shot!
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"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/30 17:05:54
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Regular Dakkanaut
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My issue is, why, if they have these models to take to adepticon, are we having to frakking wait until AFTER adepticon to see them?
Oh wait thats right we dont matter since they already HAVE our money. Better to show it to suckers, i mean customers, they haven't gotten money from first.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/30 18:12:09
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Anyone want to take bets on a Friday update with YF-4's? Put me down for "not until Gencon 2017"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/30 19:47:54
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Dakka Veteran
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Stormonu wrote:Anyone want to take bets on a Friday update with YF-4's? Put me down for "not until Gencon 2017"
If there's not one tonight, I don't think we'll see one until next Friday. PB don't seem to have the technical know-how to do one "on the go", and Adepticon starts tomorrow. Depending on how much they're carting, it may already be too late, but the convention only being 2? hours away might allow for one, though I'm not holding my breath.
I think at the latest, they should be posting an Update Monday, if not Sunday night. But as I said in the first para, I'm really not expecting one until next Friday. Because *Palladi-reasons*. The only faith I currently have in Palladium's running of this project is that they'll fail to reach relatively low expectations. If it were an newcomer that had continued at this low a standard, I'd have made the assumption by now that they just don't want a career in gaming. That it's a company that keeps pushing the "30+ years" thing, continues to be a source of amusement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/30 23:30:28
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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I expect they will decide to take Monday off due to all the "hard work" of the weekend.
Next Friday would not be an unreasonable expectation.
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/31 06:29:23
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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There’s a difference between having a hobby and being a narcissist. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/31 13:35:04
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inexperienced VF-1A Valkyrie Brownie
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jaymz wrote:My issue is, why, if they have these models to take to adepticon, are we having to frakking wait until AFTER adepticon to see them?
Oh wait thats right we dont matter since they already HAVE our money. Better to show it to suckers, i mean customers, they haven't gotten money from first.
I sort of understand that companies like to make 'big reveals' at conventions.
But here's the thing, in this case. Practically nobody that goes there is going to get excited over seeing these.
The people who would actually be interested, who they NEED to be excited over these, are the backers and they should be posting it as an update.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/31 17:11:00
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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I adjust the rules to fit the "reality"... as long as they do not get distracted by the geese we may hear something.
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/31 21:48:24
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/31 23:13:00
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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I'm glad Palladium is making me look wrong, they need to keep it up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/01 00:05:16
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Dakka Veteran
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Wow, I know the focus isn't that great, but does that fighter have ANY detail on it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/01 02:40:10
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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crappy pic
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Dimensional Warfare
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0VSNzmthd1vVlVfU3BadVd2MVk |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/01 03:09:03
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Grizzled MkII Monster Veteran
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Whelp, it's more than they've shown (aside from the SDF-1) in 13 months, so fair enough, hopefully they can deliver some non-crappy pics in an update soon, followed by a detailed breakdown of where everything else is.
And while I'm wishing for things I won't get, I'd also like a pony.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/01 03:22:15
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Forar wrote:Whelp, it's more than they've shown (aside from the SDF-1) in 13 months, so fair enough, hopefully they can deliver some non-crappy pics in an update soon, followed by a detailed breakdown of where everything else is.
And while I'm wishing for things I won't get, I'd also like a pony.
Pony? With or without rainbows?
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Dimensional Warfare
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0VSNzmthd1vVlVfU3BadVd2MVk |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/01 03:54:53
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Grizzled MkII Monster Veteran
Toronto, Ontario
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With.
Of course.
Let's try to be civilized here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/01 05:50:23
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It looks like they finally started using a better printing company for their prints (and I know which based on the green material). I'm going to get a firsthand look tomorrow and I'll try and get some decent non-cellphone pics.
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Paulson Games parts are now at:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/01 07:08:41
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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paulson games wrote:It looks like they finally started using a better printing company for their prints (and I know which based on the green material). I'm going to get a firsthand look tomorrow and I'll try and get some decent non-cellphone pics.
That would be helpful, thanks  .
Why is this not on the KS Page? Well, Palladium. They've already have our money, so why bother?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/01 15:39:41
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So in 1 years time they've managed one resin prototype and three 3d prints based on a a 3yo cg model?
That's too sad to be funny.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/01 16:11:59
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Innocent SDF-1 Bridge Bunny
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One guy spoke to chuck and had this to say:
"Wave 2. Not this year, looking into other plastic materials for part count reduction. Have done 0 work on resin bases and objective markers Besides computer drawings. The SDF has great detail looks good. They have 1 on sprue also."
Automatically Appended Next Post: Basically PB will use the reduce parts count as an excuse for why it's taking so long to get wave two out. That's there out in fulfilling the KS terms. So get ready for the long haul.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/01 16:54:57
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Grizzled MkII Monster Veteran
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Wow. Another entire year written off, we've gone from a 7 month delivery target to 55 months, and that's with like 25-30 more aspects that need 'proof of life' shown. I wonder if adding another 9-21 months to the estimate will be enough to spur some more backers to action? Not that it necessarily should, but some people have expressed being on the fence over the last few months. Adding 3-7 entire quarters is... not good news, to put it mildly.
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