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That's a pretty good summary - I might add it into the OP, unless anyone objects?

 Eilif wrote:
Hey Folks,
I was curious about this game since a buddy of mine picked up some of the figs. Forgive me for not reading the whole thread, but can someone satisfy my morbid curiosity and let me know where the game and the kickstarter currently stands.

Same place as a year and a half ago.

I think you summed all pretty well Forar.

A question sprung to mind while reading it... What happened with Palladium Open House? Has not been a 2016 edition of PBOH? Is it going to be one this year?

 Alpharius wrote:
That's a pretty good summary - I might add it into the OP, unless anyone objects?

I don't mind. As noted, it's an abridged breakdown, I'm sure we could find a thousand additional bits (big and small) to add to fill it out, but I think that covers the basics at least.

 Nesbet wrote:
I think you summed all pretty well Forar.

A question sprung to mind while reading it... What happened with Palladium Open House? Has not been a 2016 edition of PBOH? Is it going to be one this year?

Thank you.

The open house isn't a yearly thing. From my reading, it's infrequent, and there was talk that the one in 2015 might be the last (but they might do another some day? Don't ask me, they're the ones who waffled on it).

 Eilif wrote:
Hey Folks,
I was curious about this game since a buddy of mine picked up some of the figs. Forgive me for not reading the whole thread, but can someone satisfy my morbid curiosity and let me know where the game and the kickstarter currently stands.

Forar summed up the details nicely. The TLDR version is that it stands uncompleted in practically the same half done position it was in almost two years ago when they delivered the starter. The game itself is decent (but with some quirks and bigger issues that Palladium has completely ignored), the models are ok (the RDF is below average because of the construction, zentraedi are above average), and the followup support is abysmal (no releases in almost two years except for a SINGLE line of errata and two LE special character models with new rules). Just know what you're getting into (see above), don't expect future support in any reasonable time frame, and don't buy new from a store at less than 50% off (or god forbid from Palladium direct at any price). Clearance sales are frequent online and there is even a humorous video of a guy dumpster diving behind a gamestop and finding multiple shrink wrapped robotech boxes just thrown away from the tabletop games store in the same strip mall when they couldn't sell them at clearance even.

 Eilif wrote:
Hey Folks,
I was curious about this game since a buddy of mine picked up some of the figs. Forgive me for not reading the whole thread, but can someone satisfy my morbid curiosity and let me know where the game and the kickstarter currently stands.

Okay, history of everything as short as I can make it.
I am going to skip over all the silly B.S. that goes on like the Gencon vote and stuff or the "scale" change discussion.
<edit> Added spoiler to not be a screen-hogDone! Nothing concrete with wave 2.

Here, have a "up-counter" link since the KS was funded:
http://www.tickcounter.com/countup/1369022400000/america-new_york/yod/FFFFFF3B5998000000FF0000/

3 years, 0 months, 21 days in this case!

Might as well add for the "estimated ship date" (I was kind and allowed for the end of December):
http://www.tickcounter.com/countup/1388466000000/america-new_york/yod/FFFFFF3B5998000000FF0000/

I guess we were overdue for a summary, at least it saves scrolling through all those KS "updates".
Lucky I like you guys, that seemed too much like work.

<edit> OR we can have that very nice Forar ninja post (obviously much went on while I was looking things up...)

I keep thinking that those dumpster videos are as fake as reality shows...
Anyways, as noted, you can get the starter box at clearance sales, with discounts or just in ebay for 50-70 usd.

If your friend got the starter box, try the game with him. Seriously, it's fun. With 100 usd you could build quite a decent amount of minis and options for units. Not so many games can say that xD

I would add that if you really like model building then it should be fine.
Just make sure you get the guides on Drivethru RPG, they do help.
http://drivethrurpg.com/browse.php?keywords=palladium+robotech&author=&artist=&pfrom=&pto=&x=0&y=0

 Nesbet wrote:
I keep thinking that those dumpster videos are as fake as reality shows...

If I were a highly-profitable card game shop, being able to legally write down RRT at full MSRP loss vs selling it at market might be a good accounting move.

Also, dumpster diving behind Gamestops has been a youtube video genre for years because the company would throw away copies of games and ancillary products (controllers, headsets, toys, etc) they had too many of without actually destroying them.

Battlescribe update: got the "new" cards to "efalsken" as requested to update the data file.
I inquired if he will get on it soon or he can await the comedy that is my scripting skillz...
So at least not everyone dropped RRT, just forgot about it until poked.
I was impressed with the fast response so he deserves no harassment from me.

First post updated with that excellent, brief and, yes, depressing summary of where we are with RRT as of today...

Thanks folks that makes it quite clear.

My group plays Mech Attack and Alpha Strike (in 10mm with rebased mechwarrior clix) for our mech fix. I skipped the KS because of the Palladium connection but one of our members had gone in on the kickstarter big-time and hinted that we should maybe try RRT some time.

I don't think he's given it much thought since -what I now know as- the first wave came in as he has tons of other projects and little time. Probably won't invest any of my own cash in this but I have a veritech sprue that I picked up at Adepticon a few years ago. It looks fiddly but cool. Maybe I'll put it together and if it doesn't drive me mad perhaps we'll see about digging into his KS load, which I'm sure he'd be more than happy to divy up.

 Alpharius wrote:
First post updated with that excellent, brief and, yes, depressing summary of where we are with RRT as of today...

Indeed. Forar has now accomplished more good on the internet than all the Kardashians and Hiltons combined and he did so with his clothes on (hopefully!).

 warboss wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
First post updated with that excellent, brief and, yes, depressing summary of where we are with RRT as of today...

Indeed. Forar has now accomplished more good on the internet than all the Kardashians and Hiltons combined and he did so with his clothes on (hopefully!).

I'm not sure we can 100% attest to that last point...

...and I am still shocked at how little (none?) progress has been made on Wave 2 since this whole thing - The Waiting for Wave 2 - started!

 warboss wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
First post updated with that excellent, brief and, yes, depressing summary of where we are with RRT as of today...

Indeed. Forar has now accomplished more good on the internet than all the Kardashians and Hiltons combined and he did so with his clothes on (hopefully!).

Ehhhhh.

*non-committal gesture*

 Nesbet wrote:
I keep thinking that those dumpster videos are as fake as reality shows...
Anyways, as noted, you can get the starter box at clearance sales, with discounts or just in ebay for 50-70 usd.

If your friend got the starter box, try the game with him. Seriously, it's fun. With 100 usd you could build quite a decent amount of minis and options for units. Not so many games can say that xD

actually i can think of several games that are much better and just as cheap with many more models to paint and build, RRT's down fall though is the build part, its a pain to do and very easy to just give up on it.

 Alpharius wrote:

...and I am still shocked at how little (none?) progress has been made on Wave 2 since this whole thing - The Waiting for Wave 2 - started!

I'm not

And that depresses me more than the lack of progress. The fact that we are apparently resigned to the fact that there has been no progress.

Although I must also admit to being one of the most easily distrac......

Oh, look! Shiny thing!

Do you think PB's method of product release is like keeping to one clothing style: because you know in a decade or so it will become trendy again so why the rush?

Forget it.

This has gone on so long even this is not funny anymore, it is getting to be a bit of a reach finding anything meaningful to say.

Maybe we can all check-in and just type "AABSYNT" meaning "alive and breathing, see you next time"... oh look, it says "absent".

I chose to put more time, money and energy into All Quiet on the Martian Front than RRT and Alien Dungeon is out of business.

I just went into the kickstarter site to see if I could look up the fact that I paid for the MPAs and the Monster. Because it's marked as shipped I can't see that info, unless I'm missing something obvious.

Forget Kickstarter, go to Backerkit.

There you can see your pledged items and add ons. It doesn't break down exactly what has been sent by model, but it's more than just 'shipped kthxby'.

"Here are the items included in your pledge:

QTY ITEM
X 55100 Robotech RPG Tactics Main Box Game
X KS9991-A Battle Cry extras Wave One
X KS9991-B Battle Cry extras Wave Two"

Assuming you didn't delete it, you can also search your email for messages from "kickstarter@palladiumbooks", which would have the full list of what you're owed (though again, doesn't break down between the waves).

If you got a Battle Cry, you're getting some MPAs. The MAC-II was a paid add on only.

Thanks I forgot all about backerkit.


Yeah, I added the Monster, some MPAs and one of the objectove packs. Go me!

Thanks for that link.

Good to see they still owe me $500 worth of stuff from my $1000 dollar pledge.

I wonder if I can get that back to spend on something else......

By their accounts, you have already been sent more 'value' than you pledged for. You ought to think yourself lucky that they deign to consider giving you more, never mind allowing you the privilege of spending MORE money retail, or allowing you dibs on "KS/Con" 'Exclusives'.

 Conrad Turner wrote:


By their accounts, you have already been sent more 'value' than you pledged for. You ought to think yourself lucky that they deign to consider giving you more, never mind allowing you the privilege of spending MORE money retail, or allowing you dibs on "KS/Con" 'Exclusives'.

Yea, I'm aware of what they believe.

They, however, are not aware of what I believe.

I've remained fairly passive, but I'm beginning to think I'd rather have invested that elsewhere than in this continually worsening "project".

I believe that there is a special ring of hell reserved for them.

I also believe I should have 'invested' my money elsewhere.

I ALMOST believe I would have had a better time and return on investment throwing my money out of the window onto a crowded street.

I DON'T believe I'll see anything more this year.

I DON'T believe that progress is being made in secret.

I DON'T believe that PB have much of the money left [or if they do, they are using it up fast with all these 'improvements' they are doing to the parts count, mould design, etc.]

Well, it looks like our beliefs are in alignment.
Is this the start of a cult then?
Maybe with a little effort we can give better form to that special place in hell.

if all of your beliefs are aligned, why haven't the US backers aligned yet to sue PB? "Refunds or wave two or nothing!" or something alike?

 Nesbet wrote:
if all of your beliefs are aligned, why haven't the US backers aligned yet to sue PB? "Refunds or wave two or nothing!" or something alike?

Because short of getting a class action suit (and even then), it takes money. And I really DON'T feel like throwing even more money away on this fiasco.