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2016/06/21 15:46:24
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Yeah, I am not looking forward to making my own "Frankenstein" in all 3 modes for 4 of these.
It may be painful.
The added bits on the calves are what will be the challenge, I am thinking of making press cast of the master with all the little jets and then have a spot for the normal leg to sit in and cast the part around the leg.
It may work.
Or just lump some blobs onto the legs and press some tiny brass tubing into it for the jets and then indent the centers for thrusters.
Sculpting or molding... or both...
I am just glad I have an alternative to the Armoured VT, my "creation" was a whole lot of "derp".
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/06/21 16:19:28
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Yeah, I am not looking forward to making my own "Frankenstein" in all 3 modes for 4 of these.
It may be painful.
The added bits on the calves are what will be the challenge, I am thinking of making press cast of the master with all the little jets and then have a spot for the normal leg to sit in and cast the part around the leg.
It may work.
Or just lump some blobs onto the legs and press some tiny brass tubing into it for the jets and then indent the centers for thrusters.
Sculpting or molding... or both...
I am just glad I have an alternative to the Armoured VT, my "creation" was a whole lot of "derp".
well with mine not sure you can tell but the lower leg was a mold cut with the extra width and that was spliced onto an upper leg from the actual RRT mini
Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
2016/06/21 18:09:08
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Asterios wrote: well with mine not sure you can tell but the lower leg was a mold cut with the extra width and that was spliced onto an upper leg from the actual RRT mini
That is the easier way to go and was my original thought, I guess I was not looking forward to splicing them on some 24 times for a squadron.
Oh my, look at us all off topic....
Let me see, ransacking the "latest" update from Kevin (June 17 2016):
" Also coming:
◾...
◾Robotech® RPG sourcebooks
◾Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Wave 2 expansion packs
◾Robotech® RPG Tactics™ source material and events.
◾..."
Well, at least doubling down is still happening, where there is hope there is fire...
Some 40k quote "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/06/21 18:47:50
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
@Krisanth/Easy E: I posted about the subject a few weeks ago when I saw him showing off the just painted models to be used with Horizon Wars (and it got me to check out the rules) but I haven't followed up since. Thanks for the link/info.
Automatically Appended Next Post: @Talizvar: There are so many animated gifs I've collected over the years that apply to Palladium's murmurs. The not good enough Picard one and the Jennifer Lawrence oh yeah, sure ones come to mind instantly. Making false promises is free unlike keeping them.
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2016/06/21 21:27:59
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Thanks for the link. Interesting thing to watch. Gonna see it tonight, I wondered wth with Horizon wars and couldnt find a pdf copy to read about and check the rules.
2016/06/21 22:42:27
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Watching the video... there is a mention of transformable mech rules coming/just arrived on their facebook page. I asked that very question here on dakka but had no response from the author (who goes by "precinctomega" here). As I said last month, it has some interesting mechanics (like the dice cancellation) as well as range added to defense as a target number to attack models. It plays a bit slower than I expected initially. Because the model count is low, units soak up alot of damage and tend to get chipped away unless you roll tons of crits (12's on d12) and you'll end up with zombie units that aren't quite dead but are effectively useless (because you assign each point of damage as a neg to one stat of your choice as a defender except on crits) because they can barely move or attack (stat down to 1 to still count or down to 0 to not count for victory conditions). It's the kind of a mecha Black Knight situation. "I'm not quite dead yet!" I suppose that does emulate the old Mechwarrior and Heavy Gear video games of the 80's and 90's.
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2016/06/22 04:32:35
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Soon, my plans for world domination (or at least the 3D world) will see fruition...
BEHOLD!
This poor model needed the hips closer together, the wings at the back (none there... really now?) and removed the head... this one will do for now.
Install a STL plugin and we be thinking of printing this puppy.
A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/06/22 04:54:19
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Master's Forces
Green with Sled and Weapons Upgrade 36
2x Blue with Sled and Weapons Upgrade 17ea
70 Points
Green with Sled and Weapons Upgrade 36
2x Blue with Sled and Weapons Upgrade 17ea
70 Points
3x Veteran Blues with Sled 20ea
60 Points
200 Points
EMF Forces
Excalibur Officer 34
Excalibur 25
Gladiator with Rifle Pod 22
2x Defender 16ea
113 Points
Falcon Officer with Short Range Missiles 30
3x Falcon 19 ea
87 Points
200 Points
Thoughts?
Bioroids will need to get in close quickly and take advantage of their additional command points to do some damage and sleds to add to their survivability. If they cannot hit hard and fast they will be torn up. Maybe use one force as a fast moving target to absorb fire and help the others get close to make some killing blows.
EMF might have an easy go at this if they can keep the initiative. The fact that the Master's have three squadrons might be a hindrance IF they Master's can take advantage of it.
Ultimately I want to see if the Bioroids are too expensive and later test them without the sleds for a better comparison.
"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology.
2016/06/22 15:03:42
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Talizvar wrote: Soon, my plans for world domination (or at least the 3D world) will see fruition...
BEHOLD!
Spoiler:
This poor model needed the hips closer together, the wings at the back (none there... really now?) and removed the head... this one will do for now.
Install a STL plugin and we be thinking of printing this puppy.
think thats the base I used for my Armored mech, but like you said had to make adjustments, add wings and so forth.
Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
2016/06/22 15:15:58
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Asterios wrote: think thats the base I used for my Armored mech, but like you said had to make adjustments, add wings and so forth.
I was pretty sure it was when I saw the model.
I was rather surprised to see all the hollow little bits inside, I expanded a few shapes to fill a few things.
I have to read a bit more because making some of these shapes seemed harder than it should be.
Just to make something as common as a sphere is looking irritating in Sketchup.
A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/06/22 15:35:14
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Asterios wrote: think thats the base I used for my Armored mech, but like you said had to make adjustments, add wings and so forth.
I was pretty sure it was when I saw the model.
I was rather surprised to see all the hollow little bits inside, I expanded a few shapes to fill a few things.
I have to read a bit more because making some of these shapes seemed harder than it should be.
Just to make something as common as a sphere is looking irritating in Sketchup.
I used Tinkercad, and yeah lots of holes, at times I wondered if it would have been easier to start from scratch.
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Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
2016/06/22 20:06:29
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
For those interested, I found the expanded rules for the previously mentioned Horizon Wars game that includes bio stuff like Tyrannids and Starship troopers, really giant mecha ala Pacific Rim, and transforming mecha like everyone's favorite Robotech. The usual disclaimers apply since I haven't actually tried these rules (or even the core rules) out myself.
Mike, just an FYI. Dakka has youtube tags that allow you to directly embed the link just like images and allow it to play from within the post (instead of being redirected).
@Talizvar: I'd say try Litko custom bases. I don't know if they can make a tab but they can probably match the dimensions in plastic or other materials. The cheapest way would be though just drilling a hole in a sheet yourself if you have the tools and access to large cheet sheets. The simplest way would be to find/wait for a deep discount sale on the starter set and just get 30+ bases that way... and then part out the models/books/counters for sale (ok, that last part isn't "simple"...)
Have you thought about press moulding bases instead? With that simple of a shape it shouldn't be difficult. You could even add some scenic bits to the base once and have it repeated ad nauseum for a custom decorative base.
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2016/06/23 19:55:10
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
warboss wrote: Have you thought about press moulding bases instead? With that simple of a shape it shouldn't be difficult. You could even add some scenic bits to the base once and have it repeated ad nauseum for a custom decorative base.
Yeah, I saw Asterios was doing that.
Buying another starter box cheap is a funny option or see if anyone is selling the disks separate.
A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/06/23 21:14:05
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
I'd call and ask. I hear they've got hundreds to possibly thousands of retail boxes we allegedly paid for just gathering dust in the dark and cold warehouse.
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2016/06/24 00:56:21
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion