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2016/08/16 05:34:50
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Swabby wrote: Well, what we did learn from that video is that if successfully funded rifts boardgame backers will have their product in hand before we have wave 2 if the timeline sticks.
I am sure that someone believes that.
2016/08/16 10:12:08
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
warboss wrote: Let's leave the physical commentary out. I'm sure more than one of the readers here in the thread has man boobs (looking down at my chest unfortuantely). There is plenty of commentary comedy gold in just the chummy attitude toward Kevin contrasted with the contempt for fellow backers.
Oh no, you misunderstand, I was referring to the way he appears to have decided to keep wearing both shoulder straps despite doing an interview and sitting down. I can only assume he was hoping to attract some attention from Kevin.
There’s a difference between having a hobby and being a narcissist.
2016/08/16 13:14:18
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
3rd thanks to Warboss.
That interview went pretty much as expected.
To be fair, my own "hard hitting" questions were... difficult to pull off.
If you get in his face on something he bolts (got to go!, oops! got a presentation to do...).
I had seen a gentleman do a proper "hard questioning" and barely got 10 seconds into it.
So yeah, he was pretty much doomed good or poor interview skills not withstanding.
Not a fan of the guy's methods: seems too "touchy-feely" than getting into facts.
Makes his videos painful to watch for me.
Takes all kinds to make the world go round I guess.
A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/08/16 18:58:23
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Likely. You get folks here who own companies that talk about dakka being toxic but strangely those companies seems to always be the ones that have the most problems that screw over customers like Prodos for instance. The fact that they can't just unilaterally delete valid criticism and actually have to go through a third party to determine that validity (unlike their facebook pages and their own forums) apparently makes it toxic. I do admit that this thread is shamefully negativeTM but this project has largely been a systematic repeated string of failures (with the average quality wave 1 products shipping being a 3-4 month reprieve before the lies and disappointment began anew).
2016/08/16 20:34:31
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
I just bought a Quel-Quallie model on eBay. Looking forward to building it and using it in games. The scale is off, but it should serve our purposes well. I have taken the rules for it and put it on the templates to match with all the other Stat cards. So if anyone else has one they can use the rules as well if they don't already have them in the normal format.Here is the link:
I just realized.. they say the delay because they heard customers wanted reduced piece count...
So why are they not hearing we just want our stuff for the past three years?
2016/08/17 03:04:13
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Genoside07 wrote: I just realized.. they say the delay because they heard customers wanted reduced piece count...
So why are they not hearing we just want our stuff for the past three years?
because that excuse does not work for their stall tactics.
Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
2016/08/17 07:50:07
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Genoside07 wrote: I just realized.. they say the delay because they heard customers wanted reduced piece count...
So why are they not hearing we just want our stuff for the past three years?
Because the runner hasn't got there yet?
Because Kev hasn't talked to each and every backer about it? [Something he finds impossible as he can't find out where "RoW" is in the states.]
"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology.
2016/08/17 14:45:52
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
warboss wrote: Thanks for the many thanks.
@Talivar: What was his excuse in running away after 10 seconds? Hopefully you got it on video.
That was back during the 2015 Anime North.
I had just got there and Kevin and this guy started talking and I was not in the mindset of acting like a reporter.
It was rather shocking how it went south so quick: I may not remember it well, it went something like "So what is taking you so long to finish RRT?" in a rather snarky voice (I remember thinking "uh-oh" just hearing the tone).
Good direct question but no regard to presentation...
Kevin went from neutral to "A rude question does not deserve an answer!!" (Something to that effect... not 100% of exact words but pretty sure of the meaning) and stomped off.
I was impressed how he started with a half smile to beet red and a raised voice.
My own "hard hitting" interview during Anime North 2016 I had to start with "I was a fan of Rifts from when it first came out." (which is true).
Then rattled off a bunch of books and details to give the signs of the "true fan" (I had said the "Weapon Compendium was awesome, which to me is true.).
I think I had every Rift book up to "Wormwood" and dropped it after that.
That got Kevin's attention and about 15 minutes of his time (also Wayne's).
No gentle or otherwise questioning could get anything useful for wave 2 info.
I perform audits on-site and with suppliers as part of my duties so I am used to questioning... he would give you a "pained apologetic" face but little else.
He is a truly tough one to question: if you are nice he could happily spend all day with you, he gets into vague language when you hit something he decides he will not answer and there is that threat that at any time you get too pushy he will go into a rage.
The main impression I got with little facts to back them was Wayne had looked into a bunch of processes (seemed to know a few things about mold/casting processes) and potential suppliers and Kevin is sitting on the decision and possibly the report that remains unread: he knew squat.
I pretty much chalked-up each of those experiences as pointless but you asked!
A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/08/17 15:08:19
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Yeah that was abput the same as my experience at anime north 2013.
Say goid things he is your best friend. Start talking not so good things hus demeanor changes and he suddenly has to be somewhere.
That was after i played a demo of rrt with carmen (this was just after the ks was funded) in which repeatedly forgot to mention rules during my turns that would have benefitted me but never seemed to forget any rules that benefitted him.....
2016/08/17 15:49:51
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Thanks for the clarifications (even if they're not surprising given the subject). Did carmen at least give you the Palladium option of being a dick like they did at gencon robotech booth demos last year? Maybe he just genconpoll'ed your answer automatically as YES? On the plus side, I suppose getting the rules right when it suits him still puts him above NMI knowledge base.
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2016/08/17 16:07:53
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
I am now unsure which is worse:
Knowledge used for evil or lack of knowledge used for evil.
Well, the good thing is the fanbase is largely demoing the game, PB's folks have moved-on.
A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/08/17 16:29:52
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Alpharius wrote: That's a lot of Robotech there!
Is that your voice speaking in that video?
yes sounds weird on video
I will never hear... er, "read" your posts the same again!
I like the accent.
I don't care what you say anymore: there is an obvious joy to your voice with presenting all those models, you are nowhere near as bitter as I thought.
Thanks so much for sharing. Oh, and it is all painted and consistent, a ton of work, very well done.
A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte
2016/08/18 00:20:03
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Alpharius wrote: That's a lot of Robotech there!
Is that your voice speaking in that video?
yes sounds weird on video
I will never hear... er, "read" your posts the same again!
I like the accent.
I don't care what you say anymore: there is an obvious joy to your voice with presenting all those models, you are nowhere near as bitter as I thought.
Thanks so much for sharing. Oh, and it is all painted and consistent, a ton of work, very well done.
My wife made a video of me and her, last Christmas if you saw it you would not believe it is me. (oopsie left out a comma), my Wife still lives.
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Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
2016/08/18 10:50:57
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
That Rifts boardgame has got my juices churning for a Robotech boardgame using the RRT miniatures.
- Each player runs either a VT squad or a Destroid squad. You can upgrade survivors with XP from defeated enemies
- Two main areas: SDF-1 exterior (maybe as a Castle Panic "Range" setup) and Macross City interior (a street-gridded system?)
- Goal is to get the SDF-1 back to Earth. Maybe an add-on for the time on Earth, the space battle above Earth and "Reconstruction Blues" era.
- Two game phases: Battle & Downtime. Battle is self-explanitary; draw a card that explains the set-up and objectives. Downtime allows the characters to acquire subplots that can be converted to XP ("Fall in Love", "Pilot Duel", "Promotion", "VT Super upgrade available" etc.) or spend XP to upgrade skills/abilities/repair team/bolster SDF-1 defenses, etc.
It never ends well
2016/08/19 14:12:37
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Considering it took over 15 years for the outdated rifts setting to get ported over to a working, modern ruleset, I'm going with sometime after 2028 given their previous lickety split fast response time to a pressing issue.