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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/22 16:05:40
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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Oh for the love of Petey... SW:R has now added the Rifts cards to the backer manager.
You too can flog PB trinkets if you rent their IP!
Why oh why could not RRT have been rented out?
Hard to rain on their parade when it is going quite well there for delivery.
I suppose the key words for avoidance of PB projects is "...they are doing the heavy lifting.".
The one thing you can count on more than PB greed, is their laziness:
Meanwhile back at PB headquarters (warning, work of fiction... or is it?):
"So let me get this straight, I sign here, you sell our stuff and send us the money... I don't have to do anything else?"
"The silly fool has to work with backers... guess who got the better end of this deal!"
Well, I guess the lights in the warehouse get to stay on a little longer.
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/22 16:07:26
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Okay guys, I have a game coming up and thus far I have one Malcontent heavy destroyed squadron. The game is capped at 200 points, 100 point squads with no special cards allowed.
Any advice for a second squad? I am thinking artillery. Trying to put together a malcontent faction army without the wave two models feels like suicide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/22 16:28:57
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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Talizvar wrote:Oh for the love of Petey... SW:R has now added the Rifts cards to the backer manager.
You too can flog PB trinkets if you rent their IP!
That Kevin is right on the ball! After the success of *count'em* almost 150 dollar store card decks sold in over a month including at the biggest US tabletop gaming convention, he smells the money! All $1,500 of it! Can you imagine how quick he'd be and excited to work on a project that earned multiple orders of magnitude more?!? like say around $1,500,000 roughly?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/22 20:25:22
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Innocent SDF-1 Bridge Bunny
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Talizvar, the only reason I backed this thing was because they did rent the IP out to ninja division. I can't tell you how big of a blow it was when ND dropped out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/22 21:25:55
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Crazy Marauder Horseman
Valdivia, Chile
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Swabby wrote:Okay guys, I have a game coming up and thus far I have one Malcontent heavy destroyed squadron. The game is capped at 200 points, 100 point squads with no special cards allowed. Any advice for a second squad? I am thinking artillery. Trying to put together a malcontent faction army without the wave two models feels like suicide.
Swabby, IMHO, Air Defense Squadron> Artillery Support Squadron, because, moar missiles, moar miniatures [that die just as fast] and moar command points With the 30 pts remaining I would pay for a Glaug as support for that unit and maybe the 5 pts upgrade for the Defender. Or a Queadluun Rau if you have the model  Blast rule for those 5 pts could be crap, but also worth if your enemy is going for horde (no idea if you are facing zents or uedf) 18 command points could be enough for the lack of mobility of your army. Just make sure that your Glaug don't die too quickly to use the 2 of them as hammer with the anvil of destroids. My 2 cents
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/22 21:51:42
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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Swabby wrote:Talizvar, the only reason I backed this thing was because they did rent the IP out to ninja division. I can't tell you how big of a blow it was when ND dropped out.
As we have found out: there is a big difference of "here is an IP, go forth and pay royalties" than to be the "hired help" of one of their projects.
In all honesty the ND involvement suckered me in too because I figures PB would not know enough to mess around... I had not counted on how far ignorance and a need for control can go.
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 01:16:51
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Swabby wrote:Talizvar, the only reason I backed this thing was because they did rent the IP out to ninja division. I can't tell you how big of a blow it was when ND dropped out.
Ninja Division running it also got me to join... But Kevin saw big $$$$$ and was easier to cut out Ninja Division..
I am sure he thought... how hard could this be???.. I can get it made cheap in china and pocket the rest..
More animation cells for me...
You notice in the Gen Con pictures... the crowd around the shop area is the same people in the group shot...
"Everyone walk around and look like customers for the picture"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 01:41:34
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Innocent SDF-1 Bridge Bunny
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Nesbet wrote: Swabby wrote:Okay guys, I have a game coming up and thus far I have one Malcontent heavy destroyed squadron. The game is capped at 200 points, 100 point squads with no special cards allowed.
Any advice for a second squad? I am thinking artillery. Trying to put together a malcontent faction army without the wave two models feels like suicide.
Swabby, IMHO, Air Defense Squadron> Artillery Support Squadron, because, moar missiles, moar miniatures [that die just as fast] and moar command points
With the 30 pts remaining I would pay for a Glaug as support for that unit and maybe the 5 pts upgrade for the Defender. Or a Queadluun Rau if you have the model
Blast rule for those 5 pts could be crap, but also worth if your enemy is going for horde (no idea if you are facing zents or uedf)
18 command points could be enough for the lack of mobility of your army. Just make sure that your Glaug don't die too quickly to use the 2 of them as hammer with the anvil of destroids.
My 2 cents
I super appreciate this man, and I also have no idea who I am fighting, should make it more fun. lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 02:47:35
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Crazy Marauder Horseman
Valdivia, Chile
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Swabby wrote:I super appreciate this man, and I also have no idea who I am fighting, should make it more fun. lol
Not a problem! Just please take some pics and report a little how the game went, alright? Haven't played in weeks and I'm starting to miss it baaadly LOL
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 07:45:46
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Using Inks and Washes
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Talizvar wrote:As we have found out: there is a big difference of "here is an IP, go forth and pay royalties" than to be the "hired help" of one of their projects.
In all honesty the ND involvement suckered me in too because I figures PB would not know enough to mess around... I had not counted on how far ignorance and a need for control can go.
Unfortunately, PB didn't know enough NOT to!
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"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 14:49:23
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Not a problem! Just please take some pics and report a little how the game went, alright? Haven't played in weeks and I'm starting to miss it baaadly LOL
Agreed. I haven't played in a while either. My kid is in soccer, and one of the players I play with hasn't been able to play on Saturdays since his hours at his job changed. So I haven't played as often as I did before. I'm hoping to play this saturday, but we'll see.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 15:20:10
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Innocent SDF-1 Bridge Bunny
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Miniature market looks to be purging their RRT stock in their newest sale:
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/searchresults?q=Robotech+rpg+tactics
Man watching this game sell like this is painful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 15:36:32
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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On the plus side, dropping the price by 40-50% might actually generate some sales that are then painful to watch instead of dead stock.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 15:54:42
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Innocent SDF-1 Bridge Bunny
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True, but I generally relate clearance sales with dead games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 16:37:04
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Quick question, does a extra box of veritech fighters have different cards and playing ability? Or does it just give you more fighters to play with and go along with the starter box?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 16:38:01
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Crazy Marauder Horseman
Valdivia, Chile
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Swabby, when is your game taking place? And how come you don't know what you are facing? XD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 16:40:25
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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Swabby wrote:True, but I generally relate clearance sales with dead games.
Very true... but at least it's one more person/company not saddled with a dead game if they don't restock if this truly is a clearance. Palladium's dastardly plan to corner the market on this dead now will then be one step closer to fruition! :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 17:18:37
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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warboss wrote:On the plus side, dropping the price by 40-50% might actually generate some sales that are then painful to watch instead of dead stock.
I thought we saw that already, with the tinfoil beanie observation that those clearance sales must have been faked by the seller.
The real issue is that just about anybody who wanted to build a bunch of tiny Macross models is probably already inundated with an excess of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 18:04:17
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inexperienced VF-1A Valkyrie Brownie
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Swabby wrote:True, but I generally relate clearance sales with dead games.
The sale includes 50% off of X Wing and Armada.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 18:24:00
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Regular Dakkanaut
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For those of you tracking problematic Kickstarters, the ill-starred Dust: Operation Babylon Kickstarter has just posted an update that the last of the deliverables have been handled off by Paolo's company to Battlefront for fulfillment. That marks 2 years, 2+ months of various shades of public laundry.
Relevancy to this thread? "Hey, at least it's not like the RRT Kickstarter." Well done Palladium, setting new standards in the industry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 18:41:21
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Innocent SDF-1 Bridge Bunny
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Tagony wrote:Quick question, does a extra box of veritech fighters have different cards and playing ability? Or does it just give you more fighters to play with and go along with the starter box?
It is just extra veritechs that you can make a squad with or add to one. More points!
Nesbet, Early October, and I didn't ask. This will be my first public game, I am used to random matchups in public games so asking didn't even cross my mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 19:01:28
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Grizzled MkII Monster Veteran
Toronto, Ontario
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Tagony wrote:Quick question, does a extra box of veritech fighters have different cards and playing ability? Or does it just give you more fighters to play with and go along with the starter box? Nothing unique that I know of, it's not like X-Wing where the Core and X-Wing/TIE Expansions had different cards. Which means that if you're thinking of getting ~3 expansions worth of things found in the core box, it's probably more cost efficient to just get another core box. Edit: what were you looking to buy in specific? I've got some excess left over still and maybe we can work something out. My extras consist of: 4 VTs (all modes of course), 1 Command Pod set, and 1 Artillery Pod set.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 20:04:24
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot
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Ok thanks guys! Oh I was going to pop on the 55 dollar version at miniature market and get an extra set of veritechs if it came with different pilots or something. They sold out before I could get home though, so back to ebay.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 22:10:01
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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RRT stuff is rated one star.
I wonder why?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 22:16:34
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Innocent SDF-1 Bridge Bunny
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Haha glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that. It is terrible man. This is not the treatment of the IP that the 10 year old in me coughed up money for.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 22:22:07
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Probably because they're building the minis with tweezers? WTF? Who builds plastic models with tweezers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 22:23:12
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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I see MM is out of RRT core boxes.
I wonder when they'll get a restock?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 22:32:39
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Whenever they want, I'm thinking?
Of course, they may not want...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 23:08:28
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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I have a hunch Palladium has a sizeable cache they'd love to get rid of. Given that they gush over selling <150 packs of poker cards, you realky have to wonder how few Robotech items they actually sell to never brag.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/23 23:12:58
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Note: I looked through all 54 pages of the MM clearance and I don't recall seeing a single Star Wars Armada item.
Possible I missed them, of course.
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