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 Swabby wrote:
Those pods look great! I too went the cell shading route, which as it turns out can be extremely difficult!

This is a defender that I am still working on, have to do some major touch up and other stuff prior to decaling.

Very nice job!

great looking Defender Swabby, it looks cool with the panels lines blacklined

Asterios wrote:
of course PB is having problems with finding quotes, since how many manufacturers will do it for free or for RRT stock? or drawings signed by Kevin ?


also at this point i'm trying to figure out how I will sell my stuff off since there is no point continuing with a dead game, and can only fly them around going pew pew pew so much.

such a pity watching an auction on eBay which has 3 starter sets that will end soon with only one bid of $69.99

Wow I sold my Wave 1 a year ago for$100. I got out at the right time.

The great thing at seeing other people's models: you get good ideas.
I was concerned of committing to a certain decorated base depending on what was played but I forgot that the destroids are always ground pounders so gravel on the base is Ok.
The lining looks to be a must to me.
Good work all!

So, meanwhile back at Palladium... the lights are off to save money, the geese are grazing, Kevin has plans that will happen "soon".

I sold most of my wave 1 for 50% off online including shipping when I picked up someone else's painted minis locally for the same discount.

Guess I can be glad I got out while the getting was good.

And yet between my friends and I we still have sprues to spare, not that they're being built or played with beyond some token efforts at the former.

I am actually super bummed to find out that so many of the regular names here on Dakka have or are getting out of the game. I mean I get it, but having spent literally years riding this roller coaster has really made me appreciate almost everyone involved in this thing as fellow fans and gamers.

 Swabby wrote:
I am actually super bummed to find out that so many of the regular names here on Dakka have or are getting out of the game. I mean I get it, but having spent literally years riding this roller coaster has really made me appreciate almost everyone involved in this thing as fellow fans and gamers.

I find it odd to go "all-in" and then give up and try to get rid of the whole thing.
Once that is done, other than money owed, there is little to keep those players involved.

I found it rather painful after seeing all those models made by Asterios, all that he accomplished and it is just ashes to him... really?
Should have stopped with the first five models.
Hell, I picked up a new copy of CarWars since my old one is kinda chewed... nostalgia is killer for me.

I fully intend one way or another to have all the models I need and a complete game ready to go.
The good thing is, a couple of my favorite games takes no model hobby time, only game time and occasional list building.
So after some new projects are dealt with, those models will see some love.

I came to gaming from a full spectrum viewpoint: I like to build models, sculpt, paint, strategy, social... even an unsupported game such as this still has many worthy elements to pursue.
I do hope despite the disappointment / rage inducing PB maneuvers will not make people lose sight of the fact you do not need a company to make a game good: you can do it yourself.

 Swabby wrote:
I am actually super bummed to find out that so many of the regular names here on Dakka have or are getting out of the game. I mean I get it, but having spent literally years riding this roller coaster has really made me appreciate almost everyone involved in this thing as fellow fans and gamers.

I can't speak for anyone else but in order to get out of a game I have to be actually in it (i.e. playing) and that sadly wasn't the case for me. The entirety of my play experience was a few solo engagements to test out some limited house rules on my blog (just addendums to the existing rules and not as all encompassing as Mike's) and a single demo game involving one core unit each. That wasn't enough for me to keep a crapload of unbuilt sprues and extra rulebooks once I bought some painted figs. I still have enough painted to play a 200-300pt game (the latter pt total due to bumping up by special characters and options, not any more models though) and another four core units unbuilt (destroid squadron, veritech squadron, battepod squadron, and Q-rau squadron) that I can customize myself in the rare event I actually find a willing participant. I just don't have anything to contribute here much other than personal anecdotes and the occasional jab at palladium so I've tended to lurk more recently. I've lost that robotech lovin' feeling to borrow a song from the Righteous Brothers.

"I've lost that robotech lovin' feeling”

We should start a kickstarter to raise money to pay a musician to turn this into a Minmei song.

 Talizvar wrote:
I came to gaming from a full spectrum viewpoint: I like to build models, sculpt, paint, strategy, social... even an unsupported game such as this still has many worthy elements to pursue.
I do hope despite the disappointment / rage inducing PB maneuvers will not make people lose sight of the fact you do not need a company to make a game good: you can do it yourself.

For me, it was literally the parts count. I am not a modeller. I paint poorly, and I get no enjoyment from that aspect of the hobby. I have difficulty assembling due to a fine muscle control condition. It's not terrible, I got in on the Heavy Gear one, once it was clear they were more reasonable to my expectations.

So when it became clear that "SpartanGate" wasn't what I envisioned, and with the number of figures needed, coupled with it becoming clear PB wasn't running things in a professional manner (and got so much worse after), I bailed, and was able to sell my pledges (for an acceptable loss) before they shipped. As Warboss mentioned, even if the mechanics had of revolutionized the industry (they're a step above mediocre), there would have been no games played due to assembly and trying to convince others to play. And I wasn't prepared to ask other people to assemble and paint these things. I have boundaries on how big an donkey-cave I'll be to my friends.

And while I agree with you that an unsupported game can still invite entertainment, that's different to an incompetent one continuing to mishandle things. Because a dead game, noone has expectations. A zombied one, has too many pitfalls.

And don't miscount the personal distaste factor for some. I won't go into specifics (because people's opinions and passions vary too much), but when a musician/athlete/actor/author/etc is a truly awful person, it's not uncommon for people to treat their work with the same contempt as their feelings for that person. Additionally, anyone who is drawn to the game as a result of the people like yourself, Mike, and everyone else keeping this alive, is potentially adding to the coffers of PB, if they aren't fully informed, and see things out of context. And that I wouldn't do. I managed to steer someone I knew (barely) away from PB at GenCon, because he'd seen bits, but wasn't aware of the situation. Just told him of the parts count, that it was two years old, and that there was no estimate/schedule on anything more, even though they owed hundreds of thousands of dollars in material to people who had already paid.

So, now, like Warboss, I'm mostly just hanging around, empathizing with the people that are still owed (cause I do feel for those that are tied to this), and finding the humour in watching PB stumble from one stupid mistake to the other like a drunken toddler with a bucket on it's head. Because from the outside, it's been a ludicrous, entertaining ride, as PB just can't seem to get anything right. Once (if) the project is complete, or the company sinks, I'll be done with ever thinking about PB. Unless they try another KS campaign. Because there will be LOL's to be had then.

I have never played RRT, don't intend to. I have maybe 1/3 of what I paid for (because half of my split was the Monster, which is all I really wanted - the rest are just window dressing). So yeah, I'm pretty pissed at Kevin and PB.

I'm just hanging around, hoping to see Karma come around. Big time.

"Drunken Toddler"

Morgan is the COOLEST DAD EVER!

I never intended to play the RRT game, I just wanted the models - I've been building models long before I got into gaming. Besides, there's plenty of other games *cough*Battletech, Nodal Wars*cough* I can use them elsewhere if I want. If it comes right down to it, I'll set them up on the table and make roaring engine noises and pew pew noises if I have to.

As much as I dislike what this fiasco has turned into, you'd have to pry the models I have out of my cold, dead fingers.

And like John, I still want my Monster (and YF-4's).

The more time I spend with the rules the more I think they can be salvaged into something really great. Really they just need some of the more ridiculous things that complicate it removed or changed (like the RAW and FAQ blast rules)

 Swabby wrote:
I am actually super bummed to find out that so many of the regular names here on Dakka have or are getting out of the game. I mean I get it, but having spent literally years riding this roller coaster has really made me appreciate almost everyone involved in this thing as fellow fans and gamers.

Maybe we can have a ten year reunion.

You know we all will still be waiting...

JohnHwangDD wrote:I have never played RRT, don't intend to. I have maybe 1/3 of what I paid for (because half of my split was the Monster, which is all I really wanted - the rest are just window dressing). So yeah, I'm pretty pissed at Kevin and PB.

I'm just hanging around, hoping to see Karma come around. Big time.

At this point, I really hope Kev's karma runs over his dogma

Stormonu wrote:I never intended to play the RRT game, I just wanted the models - I've been building models long before I got into gaming. Besides, there's plenty of other games *cough*Battletech, Nodal Wars*cough* I can use them elsewhere if I want. If it comes right down to it, I'll set them up on the table and make roaring engine noises and pew pew noises if I have to.

As much as I dislike what this fiasco has turned into, you'd have to pry the models I have out of my cold, dead fingers.

And like John, I still want my Monster (and YF-4's).

Same here. Disgruntled modeller that would have built the models I had pledged for and posted them online to help keep the game alive. Unfortunately my optimism has opted out and I doubt anything will see the light of day again. I just can't bring myself to do more to publicise and promote this fiasco than PB are willing to do themselves. Heck, if I was just to get my SDF-1, I'd probably call it quits at this point.

 Swabby wrote:
"I've lost that robotech lovin' feeling”

We should start a kickstarter to raise money to pay a musician to turn this into a Minmei song.

What, we haven't suffered enough already?

 Albertorius wrote:

 Swabby wrote:
"I've lost that robotech lovin' feeling”
We should start a kickstarter to raise money to pay a musician to turn this into a Minmei song.

What, we haven't suffered enough already?

I second that, after a recent review of a few RT episodes, the songs are even more painful than I remembered.

 Talizvar wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Swabby wrote:
"I've lost that robotech lovin' feeling”
We should start a kickstarter to raise money to pay a musician to turn this into a Minmei song.

What, we haven't suffered enough already?

I second that, after a recent review of a few RT episodes, the songs are even more painful than I remembered.

If you don't want to die from ruptured eardrums or from jumping out of a window, swap to Mari Ijima ^_^

She is going to be at the Macross world con next month. I am seriously tempted to drive to LA to hear her sing.

Y'know, I don't hate "We Will Win", perhaps due to my love of climactic epic showdowns between massive forces and overwhelming odds, so maybe it gets a pass for being paired with one of my favourite battles in the series.

Yes I have terrible musical taste come at me, bros.

This topic is as thread derailing as a Nodal Wars update. Every fan worth his or her protoculture knows Stage Fright is the best song. DUH! :-)

 warboss wrote:
This topic is as thread derailing as a Nodal Wars update. Every fan worth his or her protoculture knows Stage Fright is the best song. DUH! :-)

so tempted.......must not say it........

 warboss wrote:
This topic is as thread derailing as a Nodal Wars update.

Every fan worth his or her protoculture knows Stage Fright is the best song. DUH! :-)

Don't you dare say that name 3 times!

Songs? We don't need no stinkin' songs. What we need is more "hard" Macross like Macross Plus. That was great!


Manly tears.

 Mike1975 wrote:

 warboss wrote:
This topic is as thread derailing as a Nodal Wars update. Every fan worth his or her protoculture knows Stage Fright is the best song. DUH! :-)

so tempted.......must not say it........

Don't give in to the tempation!

 warboss wrote:

 Mike1975 wrote:

 warboss wrote:
This topic is as thread derailing as a Nodal Wars update. Every fan worth his or her protoculture knows Stage Fright is the best song. DUH! :-)

so tempted.......must not say it........

Don't give in to the tempation!

No worries, I realize that this forum no longer has any reason for me to participate in it anymore either. I'll join the rest while people sing Minmei songs......

It was a joke, Mike.

I wasn't joking about a Minmei song about this kickstarter though haha. It is bad enough to merit one.

Edit:

Working on my artillery pods for my upcoming match



Edit 2:

And we get a weekly update tonight:

UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™

The PDFs of Wave 2 cards are being posted on DriveThruRPG.com at a rate of 2 every day until they are ALL posted and available to you over the next several weeks. We are still waiting on a couple of manufacturing quotes, as well as working on plans for upcoming releases like the Robotech® Ghost Fleet sourcebook and RRT scenario books.

UPDATE: Available on DriveThruRPG.com – new Wave Two Robotech® RPG Tactics™ cards every day, plus The Rifter®, Rifts® and other titles added weekly to DriveThruRPG.com"

Pretty sure this is the same as last time verbatim

Edit 3:

I tracked the last one down from the 9th because it was nagging me:

"UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™

The PDFs of Wave 2 cards are being posted on DriveThruRPG.com at a rate of 2 every day until they are ALL posted and available to you over the next several weeks. Otherwise, still waiting for that price quote and working on plans for releases.

UPDATE: Available on DriveThruRPG.com – new Wave Two Robotech® RPG Tactics™ cards every day, plus The Rifter®, Rifts® and other titles added weekly to DriveThruRPG.com "

So, I guess the new thing is a rehash of the old RPG ghost ship supplement for RRT? What?

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 warboss wrote:
This topic is as thread derailing as a Nodal Wars update.

Every fan worth his or her protoculture knows Stage Fright is the best song. DUH! :-)

Don't you dare say that name 3 times!

Songs? We don't need no stinkin' songs. What we need is more "hard" Macross like Macross Plus. That was great!


Manly tears.

It still also has some of the best music done for the franchise. Kanno was on fething fire for that one.