DoomShakaLaka wrote:
Are those games canon?

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
So what you're saying is that all we need to beat (sorta) the necrons is to drop a continent on them.

Well then....

 Happyjew wrote:
At least Star Wars doesn't have to worry about SM Vets, since according to fluff they all use Multi-lasers.


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Oh, and Eldar technology is so primitive they use IG tanks.

 raiden wrote:

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
So what you're saying is that all we need to beat (sorta) the necrons is to drop a continent on them.

Well then....

It's the equivalent of a guardsman killing a space marine with a single lasgun shot.

1 in a billion.

Maybe, maybe not. I do also seem to remember that Some Necrons were enslaved to some savage humans who believed themselves to be scrawny orks. GorkaMorka FTW

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
C.S. Goto.

MOAR multilasers!


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 DoomShakaLaka wrote:


Maybe, maybe not. I do also seem to remember that Some Necrons were enslaved to some savage humans who believed themselves to be scrawny orks. GorkaMorka FTW

All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
If EU Star Wars can be a thing, so can C'Tan.
C'Tan win.

Also, serious question, why all the Culture references? I believe the thread is about

All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.

I don't believe that the Culture have ever been mentioned in either canons?

 Asherian Command wrote:
Which is completely false.

So basically this:

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:
The Hrud though would prove to be a massive problem for Star Wars if they were bloodlusted. They're teleporting entropic aliens who may be tied to the warp, can kill anything by commanding entropy itself. Enough Hrud can even kill a planet by aging the core until it rots and the planet is destroyed.

Star Wars has no way to counter bloodlusted wandering swarms of the Xenos, who just show up on your world, burrow, and demolish it. With the more recent fluff on them, I'm not even certain you can truly kill them. They may be daemonic in nature regarding their entropic powers.

I think there are canon examples of guard regiments defeating the Hrud, but I'm not sure. Where does their fluff cone from?

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
why is Asherian wrong?

Great. Now there is no canon, no right/true intepretation and no way to quantify anything beyond "what I say goes." Which then removes any point and purpose of this whole thread. Great job.

If we are to have ANY decent results, maybe we could settle on universal ground rules such as time periods, what is and is not canon/valid, and other details which bog down this thread, perhaps set by the OP?

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Well Peregrine, if you've admitted that what you've done is treated your headcanon as canon, and assuming logically that all headcanons are equal (as I see no reason why yours or anyone else's should be more valid), then why is Asherian wrong?
They are right... in their own headcanon. Just as much as you are. Or I am. Or anyone else who has an opinion.

Great. Now there is no canon, no right/true intepretation and no way to quantify anything beyond "what I say goes." Which then removes any point and purpose of this whole thread. Great job.

If we are to have ANY decent results, maybe we could settle on universal ground rules such as time periods, what is and is not canon/valid, and other details which bog down this thread, perhaps set by the OP?

 Asherian Command wrote:
40k's fluff for alot of people is only from GW and the black libarary.

And Peregrine and all of us really can't say anything like that, because none of us own the IP.

but we do know that any other writing outside of GW is only interpretation and does not equal canon, its fanfiction.

(as the current IP Holder has stated that it is no longer canon it is no longer canon)

 Peregrine wrote:

 Asherian Command wrote:
40k's fluff for alot of people is only from GW and the black libarary.

That's nice. That's not GW policy though, so I don't see why it is relevant.

And Peregrine and all of us really can't say anything like that, because none of us own the IP.

You're right, which is why I'm not saying that I have any authority to decide what is and isn't canon according to GW. I'm just pointing out that GW has no (public) canon policy and my canon policy is just as legitimate as yours. You can't say "novels are canon" because I can just as easily say "novels aren't canon".

but we do know that any other writing outside of GW is only interpretation and does not equal canon, its fanfiction.

No we do not know that. Please stop acting like you have authority to decide what is and isn't canon. According to GW fanfiction has the exact same canon status as a codex or BL novel.

(as the current IP Holder has stated that it is no longer canon it is no longer canon)

I've told you several times already that this is not true. Disney has said that they are willing to contradict the story of the EU, but they haven't said "none of the EU exists at all". In fact, licensed Star Wars products (FFG's games, for example) continue to use EU material.

The Star Wars canon is what is officially regarded as "canonical", or officially part of a story, in the Star Wars media franchise.

The official Star Wars canon consists of the six released Star Wars theatrical feature films, the Star Wars animated film and television series The Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels, and any expanded universe material released after April 25, 2014. The upcoming feature film Star Wars: The Force Awakens (along with the untitled Episode VIII and Episode IX) will also be a part of the official canon.[1]

On April 25, 2014, Lucasfilm officially revised and solidified the canon, stating that all previously released Expanded Universe works would be rebranded under the new Star Wars Legends banner, in order to ensure a flowing timeline with the release of the Star Wars sequel trilogy. They also announced that all future Star Wars stories will be considered C-canon or above, with guidance coming from the Star Wars story group.[2]

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
What do you mean the hrud nearly destroyed the galaxy by "leaving too fast"?

What exactly did they do and how did they know it almost destroyed the galaxy?

According to the record-keeping of the Hrud, they were an ancient race that predated the time when Mankind became the masters of space and their tribes have been living a parasitic existence for longer than what was known to humans.[1b] The Imperium of Man first encountered the Hrud as far back as the era of the Great Crusade and during the early era the noisome warrens of these aliens were cleansed by the Emperor according to the Liber Historica Vangelia.[5a] During this time, the Iron Warriors Adeptus Astartes were in the midst of a cleansing of Hrud warrens on Gugann.[9a] After the formation of the Inquisition, it became an institution that became the first to become aware of emergent menaces to the Imperium which they have proven with Necron awakenings, the arrival of the Tyranid hive fleets and the advent of Hrud Migrations along with other similar events.[11] Numerous Hrud infestations are known to had plagued the region of the Maelstrom alongside more than twenty Ork empires and countless human pirate strongholds.[5b] At some point, the Hrud are known to had infested Mortenken's World until they were driven from the holy city by the hands of Daenyathos who was a legendary philosopher soldier of the Soul Drinkers.[19] Around seven hundred and thirty years ago, the Ultramarines battled the Hrud in the Battle of Ortecha IX which saw Battle Brother Olfric perish though he would be avenged by his comrades that ate the heart of his killer.[3]
In 980[23].M35, a major Hrud war against the Imperium took place known as the Hrud Rising.[20] The infestations led to the Dark Angels Chapter being deployed against them but after clearing two of the designated three sectors they withdraw for their own mysterious reasons. [21]
In 101.M40, a Hrud migration forced an Ork Freeboota Klan from the Edge Void to desperately send their forces at the world of Haakonath where they engaged the Star Phantoms Chapter. The Space Marine forces fought against the Ork attackers and eliminated them thus believing that they had achieved a victory in the defence of their homeworld. However, the Hrud threat began to manifest with a vast temporal-warp rift that was surging into the star system from the outer void. At its vanguard came the massive Hrud migration force that were trapped within the rifts event horizon. Despite putting up a valiant defence, the Star Phantoms ended fighting a lost cause as every Hrud-thing that coalesced from the shadows which was struck down was replaced by another dozen misshapen forms that distorted space with their very presence. The presence of the Hrud had notable impacts on Haakonath that forced the Astartes to evacuvate their homeworld and they remain one of only a handful of Chapters who survived a full-scale Hrud migration alone.[9b] A number of Hrud were present on Es'Tau and were encountered by the Last Chancers when they infiltrated the Tau Empire as mercenaries.[2]
During M41, the Cinchare Hrud Infestation led to engagements with the 39th Cadian "Xenobane" regiment of the Imperial Guard on Cinchare.[10a] This conflict saw the Hrud engage the 1st Company of the Dark Hands Chapter.[14] A notable engagement with the Hrud came in 783.M41 during the Infestation of Ursula Spinal where an agri-world became subject to a migration. It quickly became infested with its plantations of hydro-crops turning to dust and its defenders aging fifty years over the span of a few months due to the Hrud's innate entropic fields. To combat the threat, six regiments of Valhallan Ice Warriors make planetfall in order to purge the colony from the infestation. However, a full half of the regiments suffer from premature aging due to contact with the Hrud and are declared unfit for further duty.[8] Between 938-5.M41, Commander Ursarkar E. Creed is known to had fought throughout a Hrud migration.[10b] At some point, Hrud infested the Delphic mines of Mordant Prime leading to the conflict known as the The Plague of Delphic where the 303rd Mordant Acid Dogs engaged the aliens and managed to eliminate them but they suffered heavy losses in the process.[15]
In 0.257.790.M41, a Hrud managed to infest the Emperor Class Battleship Paternus Gloriem where indentured crewman Selebor Mathias managed to knock it unconscious whereupon he was interrogated by the Inquisition with the specimen taken for study.[1a] Farseer Eldrad Ulthran is known to have participated in the prevention of a Hrud infestation of Craftworld Saim-Hann which would have reduced the proud vessel to rotten mulch.[13] The Ordo Xenos Inquisitor Helynna Valeria is known to have treated with Eldar, Ulumeathi, Draxians, Hrud and scores of other xenos species in order to expand humanity's stores of knowledge.[12]

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
How bout this then: Star wars LEGENDS vs 40k set at the galactic empire era and the 41st millennium respectively?

Common ground needs to be found on what constitutes for canon in 40k as well. To settle Peregrines stance Im calling it D-verse 40k 'canon' since there is no official one. When direct conflicts arrive we can settle them by declaring the true answer to be somewhere in between the two polars.

 Asherian Command wrote:
Let me dig up a quote....

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
Common ground needs to be found on what constitutes for canon in 40k as well.

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
When direct conflicts arrive we can settle them by declaring the true answer to be somewhere in between the two polars.

 Happyjew wrote:

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
When direct conflicts arrive we can settle them by declaring the true answer to be somewhere in between the two polars.

So only half of SM Vets use Multi-lasers?

 Asherian Command wrote:

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
What do you mean the hrud nearly destroyed the galaxy by "leaving too fast"?

What exactly did they do and how did they know it almost destroyed the galaxy?

Here

According to the record-keeping of the Hrud, they were an ancient race that predated the time when Mankind became the masters of space and their tribes have been living a parasitic existence for longer than what was known to humans.[1b] The Imperium of Man first encountered the Hrud as far back as the era of the Great Crusade and during the early era the noisome warrens of these aliens were cleansed by the Emperor according to the Liber Historica Vangelia.[5a] During this time, the Iron Warriors Adeptus Astartes were in the midst of a cleansing of Hrud warrens on Gugann.[9a] After the formation of the Inquisition, it became an institution that became the first to become aware of emergent menaces to the Imperium which they have proven with Necron awakenings, the arrival of the Tyranid hive fleets and the advent of Hrud Migrations along with other similar events.[11] Numerous Hrud infestations are known to had plagued the region of the Maelstrom alongside more than twenty Ork empires and countless human pirate strongholds.[5b] At some point, the Hrud are known to had infested Mortenken's World until they were driven from the holy city by the hands of Daenyathos who was a legendary philosopher soldier of the Soul Drinkers.[19] Around seven hundred and thirty years ago, the Ultramarines battled the Hrud in the Battle of Ortecha IX which saw Battle Brother Olfric perish though he would be avenged by his comrades that ate the heart of his killer.[3]
In 980[23].M35, a major Hrud war against the Imperium took place known as the Hrud Rising.[20] The infestations led to the Dark Angels Chapter being deployed against them but after clearing two of the designated three sectors they withdraw for their own mysterious reasons. [21]
In 101.M40, a Hrud migration forced an Ork Freeboota Klan from the Edge Void to desperately send their forces at the world of Haakonath where they engaged the Star Phantoms Chapter. The Space Marine forces fought against the Ork attackers and eliminated them thus believing that they had achieved a victory in the defence of their homeworld. However, the Hrud threat began to manifest with a vast temporal-warp rift that was surging into the star system from the outer void. At its vanguard came the massive Hrud migration force that were trapped within the rifts event horizon. Despite putting up a valiant defence, the Star Phantoms ended fighting a lost cause as every Hrud-thing that coalesced from the shadows which was struck down was replaced by another dozen misshapen forms that distorted space with their very presence. The presence of the Hrud had notable impacts on Haakonath that forced the Astartes to evacuvate their homeworld and they remain one of only a handful of Chapters who survived a full-scale Hrud migration alone.[9b] A number of Hrud were present on Es'Tau and were encountered by the Last Chancers when they infiltrated the Tau Empire as mercenaries.[2]
During M41, the Cinchare Hrud Infestation led to engagements with the 39th Cadian "Xenobane" regiment of the Imperial Guard on Cinchare.[10a] This conflict saw the Hrud engage the 1st Company of the Dark Hands Chapter.[14] A notable engagement with the Hrud came in 783.M41 during the Infestation of Ursula Spinal where an agri-world became subject to a migration. It quickly became infested with its plantations of hydro-crops turning to dust and its defenders aging fifty years over the span of a few months due to the Hrud's innate entropic fields. To combat the threat, six regiments of Valhallan Ice Warriors make planetfall in order to purge the colony from the infestation. However, a full half of the regiments suffer from premature aging due to contact with the Hrud and are declared unfit for further duty.[8] Between 938-5.M41, Commander Ursarkar E. Creed is known to had fought throughout a Hrud migration.[10b] At some point, Hrud infested the Delphic mines of Mordant Prime leading to the conflict known as the The Plague of Delphic where the 303rd Mordant Acid Dogs engaged the aliens and managed to eliminate them but they suffered heavy losses in the process.[15]
In 0.257.790.M41, a Hrud managed to infest the Emperor Class Battleship Paternus Gloriem where indentured crewman Selebor Mathias managed to knock it unconscious whereupon he was interrogated by the Inquisition with the specimen taken for study.[1a] Farseer Eldrad Ulthran is known to have participated in the prevention of a Hrud infestation of Craftworld Saim-Hann which would have reduced the proud vessel to rotten mulch.[13] The Ordo Xenos Inquisitor Helynna Valeria is known to have treated with Eldar, Ulumeathi, Draxians, Hrud and scores of other xenos species in order to expand humanity's stores of knowledge.[12]

Have fun.

 Asherian Command wrote:

 Happyjew wrote:

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
When direct conflicts arrive we can settle them by declaring the true answer to be somewhere in between the two polars.

So only half of SM Vets use Multi-lasers?

CS Goto does not count as a reliable source.

I saw nothing about them nearly destroying the galaxy, although it seems that they are pretty scary. Entropic aging monsters that come in huge swarms is pretty crazy.

ore like individual SM vets have the option to use multilasers if they so choose.