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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 19:42:51
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Hallowed Canoness
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DoomShakaLaka wrote:What do you mean the hrud nearly destroyed the galaxy by "leaving too fast"?
What exactly did they do and how did they know it almost destroyed the galaxy?
Hrud constantly project an entropic field that puts Nurgle to shame. The more Hrud you have, the stronger the field. The more upset the Hrud are, the stronger the field. Hrud technology is all based around manipulating this field. When the Hrud want to travel FTL, they use their entropy field to fudge the rules and make here decay to the point where it would be there due to galactic drift, or something like that. Basically, they caused massive entropic destabilisation in the heart of a magitek device designed to reset entropy and turn planets backwards in time. The Hrud FTL nearly overloaded the system and, well... made the galaxy rot. The machine broke first - the Hrud entropic field broke the machine before it went critical - but the effects deleted an astrological anomaly millenia old that stretched around the rim of half the galaxy.
Peregrine wrote: According to GW fanfiction has the exact same canon status as a codex or BL novel.
Black Library books are just licensed fanfiction anyway. Kind of like Todd McCaffrey's pern novels.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 19:47:14
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Douglas Bader
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Why not? Do you have any evidence from GW's official policies for rejecting CS Goto's work, or is this just another case of you setting your canon policy based on what you want the outcome of the debate to be?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 19:48:18
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Furyou Miko wrote:DoomShakaLaka wrote:What do you mean the hrud nearly destroyed the galaxy by "leaving too fast"?
What exactly did they do and how did they know it almost destroyed the galaxy?
Hrud constantly project an entropic field that puts Nurgle to shame. The more Hrud you have, the stronger the field. The more upset the Hrud are, the stronger the field. Hrud technology is all based around manipulating this field. When the Hrud want to travel FTL, they use their entropy field to fudge the rules and make here decay to the point where it would be there due to galactic drift, or something like that. Basically, they caused massive entropic destabilisation in the heart of a magitek device designed to reset entropy and turn planets backwards in time. The Hrud FTL nearly overloaded the system and, well... made the galaxy rot. The machine broke first - the Hrud entropic field broke the machine before it went critical - but the effects deleted an astrological anomaly millenia old that stretched around the rim of half the galaxy.
Peregrine wrote: According to GW fanfiction has the exact same canon status as a codex or BL novel.
Black Library books are just licensed fanfiction anyway. Kind of like Todd McCaffrey's pern novels.
I usually dismiss the black library as fanfiction anyway. Except for the collected visions which was written by the Original IP holders of 40k. Who wrote the original works.
Also on the Hrud they aren't ones to be messed with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 19:48:28
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Asherian Command wrote:I saw nothing about them nearly destroying the galaxy, although it seems that they are pretty scary. Entropic aging monsters that come in huge swarms is pretty crazy.
There is also the Pale Wastings incident where 20 chapters were destroyed except for one chapter (The aurora marines)
ore like individual SM vets have the option to use multilasers if they so choose.
Well why would you trade a bolter for an automatic las rifle?
I keep reading about these incidents where a crazy amount of space Marines have died to the enemy they were fighting and it always makes me wonder: How are these guys still around?
Anyways I guess the veteran got tired of bolter recoil or something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 19:55:46
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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DoomShakaLaka wrote: Asherian Command wrote:I saw nothing about them nearly destroying the galaxy, although it seems that they are pretty scary. Entropic aging monsters that come in huge swarms is pretty crazy. There is also the Pale Wastings incident where 20 chapters were destroyed except for one chapter (The aurora marines) ore like individual SM vets have the option to use multilasers if they so choose. Well why would you trade a bolter for an automatic las rifle? I keep reading about these incidents where a crazy amount of space Marines have died to the enemy they were fighting and it always makes me wonder: How are these guys still around? Anyways I guess the veteran got tired of bolter recoil or something. Well those events are far between over thousands of years. They are usually against threats that are pretty huge and need the attention of super humans. Most space marine chapters are well above 1000 and they typically are needing more troops for various actions such as maintance neyphotes, and various other staff. So usually what happens is that when a chapter is 'wiped out' its remnants are sent to build a new chapter. Astartes are fairly easy to create in the imperium if the highlords of terra know that a certain chapter was destroyed. Investing in a chapter is well worth it Automatically Appended Next Post: Peregrine wrote: Why not? Do you have any evidence from GW's official policies for rejecting CS Goto's work, or is this just another case of you setting your canon policy based on what you want the outcome of the debate to be? Because they have been rewritten from another author with the same characters and stories. Meaning he is no longer part of canon that has been agreed upon!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 20:15:09
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Douglas Bader
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Asherian Command wrote:Because they have been rewritten from another author with the same characters and stories. Meaning he is no longer part of canon that has been agreed upon!
{citation needed}
Could you provide some evidence from GW that new versions of characters/stories replace older ones? Or is this just another case of you inventing your own canon policies and pretending that they have official support from GW?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 20:58:22
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Peregrine wrote: Asherian Command wrote:Because they have been rewritten from another author with the same characters and stories. Meaning he is no longer part of canon that has been agreed upon!
{citation needed}
Could you provide some evidence from GW that new versions of characters/stories replace older ones? Or is this just another case of you inventing your own canon policies and pretending that they have official support from GW?
What if two quotes contradict eachother?
Such as Alpharius once being the tallest Primarch, to now being the shortest?
In these situations, it is sensible to follow the most recent source of canon, adhering closer to that, but, for example, in the case of Necrons, you could still use OldCron fluff, as long as facets of your dudes' fluff fitted certain guidelines. Here, logic and sensibility prevail. Unless you are just trying to be obtuse for no reason other than to sate a personal bias.
Also, if I were to write a fanfiction outlining how the 40k universe destroys and conquers the SW universe, perhaps using only my personal AM regiment, would that not be canon, since you accept fanfiction as valid 40k canon as GW don't have a stance? If so, that would settle this argument.
I can write a 40k fanfiction (of varying quality, but it couldn't be worse than Goto, eh?  ) which is treated as canon, using your logic, which wins this argument according to my whim. SW fanfiction, due to a rigid canon code, does not have this quality.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 21:24:29
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Sgt_Smudge wrote:What if two quotes contradict eachother?
Such as Alpharius once being the tallest Primarch, to now being the shortest?
Then you have to either pick one source and discard the other or find some way of resolving the contradiction ("Alpharius is short is an insulting lie spread by his enemies"). My point is that there is no official answer to the problem and it comes down to personal preference: do you want Alpharius to be short or tall? You can answer that question for yourself, but you can't answer it for everyone else.
In these situations, it is sensible to follow the most recent source of canon
Why? You could just as easily argue that the original source is canon and the newer source is a case of a marginally-talented author not bothering to pay attention to canon details of the setting they're working with. For example, if CS Goto wrote another volume in his multilaser obsession and had space marines with multilasers fighting against Tyranids with mutilasers would you really believe that the most recent source is canon? Or would you say "this is stupid" and throw it out, despite it being newer than the previous sources where those armies don't have multilasers?
Also, if I were to write a fanfiction outlining how the 40k universe destroys and conquers the SW universe, perhaps using only my personal AM regiment, would that not be canon, since you accept fanfiction as valid 40k canon as GW don't have a stance?
You're missing the point of the fanfiction argument. I never said that fanfiction is canon, I said that it's just as canon as anything else in 40k. That is, it exists, but has never been given any canon or non-canon status from GW.
If so, that would settle this argument.
No, because it just goes back to the original point I made many pages ago: that answering the "who wins" question requires figuring out which version of 40k to use. We could certainly settle the argument that Sgt_Smudge- 40k crushes Star Wars, but that says nothing about 40k in general.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 21:36:18
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Furyou Miko wrote:Black Library books are just licensed fanfiction anyway. Kind of like Todd McCaffrey's pern novels.
Do you have any backup for this at all?
Black Library is a division of Games Workshop.
This is at the bottom of their website.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 21:58:07
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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If so, that would settle this argument.
No, because it just goes back to the original point I made many pages ago: that answering the "who wins" question requires figuring out which version of 40k to use. We could certainly settle the argument that Sgt_Smudge- 40k crushes Star Wars, but that says nothing about 40k in general.
Which is EXACTLY my point, which I believe I mentioned.
Instead of going over and debating all the myriad interpretations of both universes, we want someone, preferably someone with no bias or the OP of this thread to dictate what is, and what is not, canon for both universes and canon clashes, such as Alpharius' height, or if a Jedi could survive a bolter round. We need to be given a single, universal canon purely for the sake of this argument and leave everything else out, but this would be in no way definitive, as everyone has their own thoughs on the various universe power levels.
It sucks that this is the case, but hey, it sucks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 22:03:35
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Douglas Bader
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Sgt_Smudge wrote:Instead of going over and debating all the myriad interpretations of both universes, we want someone, preferably someone with no bias or the OP of this thread to dictate what is, and what is not, canon for both universes and canon clashes, such as Alpharius' height, or if a Jedi could survive a bolter round. We need to be given a single, universal canon purely for the sake of this argument and leave everything else out, but this would be in no way definitive, as everyone has their own thoughs on the various universe power levels.
And this is never going to happen, because there is no unbiased authority to provide it. And even if you could find one the scope of the project is probably way beyond anyone's ability to handle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 22:04:59
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Peregrine wrote: Sgt_Smudge wrote:Instead of going over and debating all the myriad interpretations of both universes, we want someone, preferably someone with no bias or the OP of this thread to dictate what is, and what is not, canon for both universes and canon clashes, such as Alpharius' height, or if a Jedi could survive a bolter round. We need to be given a single, universal canon purely for the sake of this argument and leave everything else out, but this would be in no way definitive, as everyone has their own thoughs on the various universe power levels.
And this is never going to happen, because there is no unbiased authority to provide it. And even if you could find one the scope of the project is probably way beyond anyone's ability to handle.
Exactly. That's why it sucks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 22:41:59
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Ruthless Interrogator
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As far as the people saying that ligjtsabers not being able to block solid projectiles. In Jedi power battles the playstation game the tusken raiders used "bullet" type snipers that could be blocked but not projected back at the enemy. Probably not canon, but its something. Plus its the only game I know of where you can unlock a minigame that involves electrocuting Jar Jar better than your opponent in order to score points.
Classic
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 23:19:39
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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DoomShakaLaka wrote:As far as the people saying that ligjtsabers not being able to block solid projectiles. In Jedi power battles the playstation game the tusken raiders used "bullet" type snipers that could be blocked but not projected back at the enemy. Probably not canon, but its something. Plus its the only game I know of where you can unlock a minigame that involves electrocuting Jar Jar better than your opponent in order to score points. Classic  Well they could block it, but unless it also is accompanied with a shield the shrapnel will not be blocked, that will go straight into the jedi, and the sharpnel will just tear apart the jedi's body and the explosion from the bolter round would shatter his arms with the amount of force that would travel through the lightsaber. As much as jedi are that strong I don't think kinetic force would agree with them. Bolts aren't the problem they are the problem when there are six of them being shot at the same time. You can block easily but still remember the shards and other bullets accompanying them..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 23:23:49
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Bolts don't explode that hard, either, except when they're in you
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 23:30:09
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Its not the explosion its the kinetic force behind something the size of a 45' caliber weapon hitting you at super sonic. That would probably be enough to break a few bones just by the sheer force.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 23:40:26
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
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Depends on the caliber. The idea that all bolters are .75 caliber has been demonstrated false again and again, and heavier calibers can inflict serious damage even without internal explosion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/21 23:57:33
Subject: Re:All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
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Has it? AFAIK, the godwin pattern bolter is .75 and most heavy bolters are 1.0? Or did I miss some fluff. But at that point, I don't think it really matters though, if its .75 or 2.5, it's still dead jedi. Automatically Appended Next Post: And even at .75, it's still a small grenade going off less than a foot away, if you're not dead, you're seriously hurt.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 00:10:39
Subject: Re:All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Co'tor Shas wrote:Has it? AFAIK, the godwin pattern bolter is .75 and most heavy bolters are 1.0? Or did I miss some fluff. But at that point, I don't think it really matters though, if its .75 or 2.5, it's still dead jedi.
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And even at .75, it's still a small grenade going off less than a foot away, if you're not dead, you're seriously hurt.
Its been debated for a long time. But most of the wiki's I have gone through point to it being a standard .75 caliber bolt. I think it is around .55 to .65 but eh details. Sharpnel from anything is usually lethal or extremely disabilitating. It is better to try and get behind cover than actual just charge out with a close combat weapon.
It is similar to how the british were able to defeat the french. The french being great horsemen could deal with a single archer, but a whole line of archers was basically suicide. Hence why the british beat the french so much in terms of warefare until platemail was invented. (Then the crossbow came and made knights obsolete)
This would be a similar situation, yes jedi are close ccombat specialists but an astartes and guardsmen would know anyone charging at you with a close combat weapon is close to dead. Hence why when berserkers of khorne are charging there around 10-30 of them all charging plus the aid of having power armor is quite helpful as well. Anyone engaging in close combat against a ranged opponent are just committing suicide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 00:13:14
Subject: Re:All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
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I like to call that the "tau versus orks" principle.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 00:21:15
Subject: Re:All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Co'tor Shas wrote:Has it? AFAIK, the godwin pattern bolter is .75 and most heavy bolters are 1.0? Or did I miss some fluff. But at that point, I don't think it really matters though, if its .75 or 2.5, it's still dead jedi. Automatically Appended Next Post: And even at .75, it's still a small grenade going off less than a foot away, if you're not dead, you're seriously hurt. .75 is a common one, but early Great Crusade had lower calibers (.60 for bolters and .75 for HBs) and there's plenty of material suggesting later Astartes bolters (Phobos pattern for instance, and quite possibly Godwyn as well - though that pattern tends to be contradiction-heavy) fire significantly bigger bolts. It's from the FW HH books. Interesting stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 00:30:40
Subject: Re:All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Nice. However you forget that Jedi are not 'supposed' to be front line soldiers. They are best used as spec-ops teams, generals, etc.
Jedi are extremely good at defeating foes ranging from 1-10 enemies at once and being successful, but they can be overwhelmed by far superior numbers and walls of blaster fire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 00:46:39
Subject: Re:All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
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You have to wonder about the other weapons though. Can plasma be blocked in the same way as blaster? I personally doubt it. And what about melta and flamers? Or even more exotic weapons, such as necron or eldar/DE weapons?
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 00:51:25
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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DoomShakaLaka wrote:As far as the people saying that ligjtsabers not being able to block solid projectiles. In Jedi power battles the playstation game the tusken raiders used "bullet" type snipers that could be blocked but not projected back at the enemy. Probably not canon, but its something. Plus its the only game I know of where you can unlock a minigame that involves electrocuting Jar Jar better than your opponent in order to score points. Classic  Game mechanics are not canon, ever. Also, basic logic dictates that the electromagnetically jacketed blade of plasma is not going to deflect solid projectiles, and I do not know what flawed line of logic could ever be drawn to come to such a conclusion. It would vaporize either the entire/part of the projectile depending on its mass. But as stated previously you'd still have an extremely hot vapor cloud giving you third degree burns and melting your clothes. The only way to block solid projectiles is for them to erect a force barrier. Automatically Appended Next Post: Co'tor Shas wrote:Has it? AFAIK, the godwin pattern bolter is .75 and most heavy bolters are 1.0? Or did I miss some fluff. But at that point, I don't think it really matters though, if its .75 or 2.5, it's still dead jedi.
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And even at .75, it's still a small grenade going off less than a foot away, if you're not dead, you're seriously hurt.
Also, the round may be wider than the blade itself, meaning there's still shrapnel (which you superheated with your lightsaber) screaming at you at supersonic speeds and is now tumbling. Not only would a lightsaber probably detonate a bolt, but attempting to "block" it will only ensure you death. And probably the people behind you with anything overpenetrates. Automatically Appended Next Post: Co'tor Shas wrote:You have to wonder about the other weapons though. Can plasma be blocked in the same way as blaster? I personally doubt it. And what about melta and flamers? Or even more exotic weapons, such as necron or eldar/ DE weapons?
Blasters are plasma weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 01:23:23
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Blasters are plasma weapons.
True but they are different type of plasma apparently as plasma in 40k explodes. Where in starwars they are just energy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 01:34:25
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Asherian Command wrote:Blasters are plasma weapons.
True but they are different type of plasma apparently as plasma in 40k explodes. Where in starwars they are just energy.
Wut.
Plasma neither is exclusively explosive in Warhammer, nor do blasters always overpenetrate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 01:34:53
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Asherian Command wrote:Blasters are plasma weapons.
True but they are different type of plasma apparently as plasma in 40k explodes. Where in starwars they are just energy.
Blasters are more like tau plasma, its slightly weaker, safer, and less extreme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 01:43:58
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Wyzilla wrote: Asherian Command wrote:Blasters are plasma weapons. True but they are different type of plasma apparently as plasma in 40k explodes. Where in starwars they are just energy. Wut. Plasma neither is exclusively explosive in Warhammer, nor do blasters always overpenetrate. Upon impact tremendous energy is released akin to a small sun, destroying the target through searing heat and explosive shock in an almighty explosion.[1][2a] http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Plasma_weapon
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 02:22:00
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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raiden wrote: Asherian Command wrote:Blasters are plasma weapons.
True but they are different type of plasma apparently as plasma in 40k explodes. Where in starwars they are just energy.
Blasters are more like tau plasma, its slightly weaker, safer, and less extreme.
Not even, tau plasma is still very destructive, melting holes in people, with the damage to unarmored targets similar to the damage plasma weapons do, just smaller. You get hit in the arm with tau plasma, and you are losing an arm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/22 02:42:35
Subject: All of Wh40k Vs All of starwars.
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Co'tor Shas wrote: raiden wrote: Asherian Command wrote:Blasters are plasma weapons.
True but they are different type of plasma apparently as plasma in 40k explodes. Where in starwars they are just energy.
Blasters are more like tau plasma, its slightly weaker, safer, and less extreme.
Not even, tau plasma is still very destructive, melting holes in people, with the damage to unarmored targets similar to the damage plasma weapons do, just smaller. You get hit in the arm with tau plasma, and you are losing an arm.
A higher powered blaster isn't much different than that...
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Wyzilla wrote:
Because Plague Marines have the evasion abilities of a drunk elephant.
Burn the Heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the Unclean |
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