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I was watching an old interview with Christopher Ecclston from back in 2005 and he was saying that the appeal of Doctor Whos is that it isn't post-modern irony like Buffy but it has actual heart and meaning to it. And it did.
Now, Doctor who is JUST post-modern irony with none of the heart, filled with awful characters and beyond creepy storylines. Matt Smith was amazingly charismatic, but even he couldn't hide the fact that the 11th doctor is a child grooming, sexually assaulting, mass murdering jerk.
I marathoned the last series all at once and it was painful. The new Doctor isn't darker than the last, he's completly uncaring about getting people killed. The plots are the worst they've ever been. The daleks have been ruined, and thats without taking the power ranger daleks into account. Clara is a good actress, but the worst companion yet. I'm not even getting started on Danny.
It's terrible, and unlike Sherlock it hasn't got the whole gay-baiting aspect to stop its fans from realising how terrible it is. Stephen Moffat has ruined this once amazing show.
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New season preview trailer was shown on BBC One tonight after the Agatha Christie detective show.
There was a Dalek (2005 pattern) and Zygon and several new looking monsters, as well as a new actress that my daughter says was in Game of Thrones. She looks a bit like the young Amy grown up to the early teens.
Kilkrazy wrote: New season preview trailer was shown on BBC One tonight after the Agatha Christie detective show.
There was a Dalek (2005 pattern) and Zygon and several new looking monsters, as well as a new actress that my daughter says was in Game of Thrones. She looks a bit like the young Amy grown up to the early teens.
I guess you mean Maisie Williams, although based on that description, Sophie Turner seems a better fit. Also glad to see that Moffat seems to have completely given up on the brightly coloured blobs new dalek paradigm (I think that makes it 3 years since we last saw one?).
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Kilkrazy wrote: New season preview trailer was shown on BBC One tonight after the Agatha Christie detective show.
There was a Dalek (2005 pattern) and Zygon and several new looking monsters, as well as a new actress that my daughter says was in Game of Thrones. She looks a bit like the young Amy grown up to the early teens.
I guess you mean Maisie Williams, although based on that description, Sophie Turner seems a better fit. Also glad to see that Moffat seems to have completely given up on the brightly coloured blobs new dalek paradigm (I think that makes it 3 years since we last saw one?).
I think the last time we saw one of those Daleks was with their planet/asylum and the eye stalk in the forehead Dalek zombies (first Clara episode as well).
Maisie Williams is (judging from the Comic Con panel), playing some sort of re-envisioning of an old-Who character, like Rani or Romana.
Barring a few outstanding episodes, the Moffat run has been IMO awful.
I stopped watching the show around season 6, as I couldn't stand the Doctor running around committing mass murder while still being praised as some kind of pseudo-Jesus figure.
Bronzefists42 wrote: Barring a few outstanding episodes, the Moffat run has been IMO awful.
I stopped watching the show around season 6, as I couldn't stand the Doctor running around committing mass murder while still being praised as some kind of pseudo-Jesus figure.
Season 7 had some nice stuff (they toned down the godliness the Doctor started to get). Season 8 had a couple good episodes, mostly because those gems are the ones Moffat didn't right. He's writing less for this next season too.
Moffatt should have left two or three years ago. The Clara 'story arc' has been extended well beyond rationality. At least Moffatt has toned down the lovey-dovey stuff. Most of the best episodes have been the one-offs by other writers.
So, in other fantastic news, everyone's favourite character returns to our screens after the inconclusive cliffhanger ending of her story arc!
/sarcasm
Alex Kingston is returning to Doctor Who for this year's Christmas Special.
The British actress plays River Song, a mysterious time-traveller whose encounters with the Doctor occur out of sequence, often leaving the Time Lord mystified. She even married him in 2011.
But her character hasn't been seen in the series for three years, so the Christmas special, which starts filming this week, will be her first appearance with the latest incarnation of the Doctor, aka Peter Capaldi.
"To be honest, I did not know whether River would ever return," says Kingston, "but here she is."
"Steven Moffat is on glittering form, giving us an episode filled with humour and surprise guest castings. I met Peter for the first time at Monday's read through, we had a laugh, and I am now excited and ready to start filming with him and the Doctor Who team. Christmas in September? Why not!"
See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
Putin.....would make a Vulcan Intelligence officer cry. - Jihadin
AFAIK, there is only one world, and it is the real world. - Iron_Captain
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-Shrike- wrote: So, in other fantastic news, everyone's favourite character returns to our screens after the inconclusive cliffhanger ending of her story arc!
/sarcasm
Take your sarcasm somewhere else. Some of us like River Song.
IÂ saw this on FBÂ this morning and got rather excited.
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Kilkrazy wrote: I didn't realise she was gone. I have a habit of missing key wrapup episodes in these new-fangled story arcs.
Well, the "something* of the Doctor" episode made it clear that she was gone, and that was the last we saw of her. She also appeared in some mini-episodes, which included her last night with the Doctor, where he gave her the sonic screwdriver. And, you know, she died on-screen 7 years ago... (still the only episode in which I find her bearable).
*Time, Day, Name, Death, or something like that. I gave up when we had three episodes in a row in that format.
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Putin.....would make a Vulcan Intelligence officer cry. - Jihadin
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RIVER'S BACK!!!!! I've literally been waiting for the moment we get to see her and Twelve from the moment it was announced Capaldi was taking over. Personally I love the character, and found the episodes including her to be better than many of the other episodes in Matt Smith's run
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I'm getting strong Pan's Labyrinth vibes from that brief shot of the field of the hand-eyes - not necessarily a bad thing, mind you. Also glad to see the return of the Supreme Dalek, which I always thought was basically the equivalent of the highest ranked Dalek - i.e. not unique, and we should have seen one again by now (given how many Dalek-based things have cropped up since 2008, including the Time War!). Black Daleks, I'm not so pleased about, beacuse I was under the impression that (post Time War, 2005-present) Dalek Sec was supposedly unique in that respect. I could be wrong, though, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd re-used the same props in some of the later episodes. As for the Missy story arc... I won't care if it's subtle. If it's as blatant and in-our-face as the last few series' plots, well...
... I probably won't be very surprised, to be honest.
See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
Putin.....would make a Vulcan Intelligence officer cry. - Jihadin
AFAIK, there is only one world, and it is the real world. - Iron_Captain
DakkaRank Comment: I sound like a Power Ranger.
TFOL and proud. Also a Forge World Fan.
I should really paint some of my models instead of browsing forums.
I was watching an old interview with Christopher Ecclston from back in 2005 and he was saying that the appeal of Doctor Whos is that it isn't post-modern irony like Buffy but it has actual heart and meaning to it. And it did.
Now, Doctor who is JUST post-modern irony with none of the heart, filled with awful characters and beyond creepy storylines. Matt Smith was amazingly charismatic, but even he couldn't hide the fact that the 11th doctor is a child grooming, sexually assaulting, mass murdering jerk.
I marathoned the last series all at once and it was painful. The new Doctor isn't darker than the last, he's completly uncaring about getting people killed. The plots are the worst they've ever been. The daleks have been ruined, and thats without taking the power ranger daleks into account. Clara is a good actress, but the worst companion yet. I'm not even getting started on Danny.
It's terrible, and unlike Sherlock it hasn't got the whole gay-baiting aspect to stop its fans from realising how terrible it is. Stephen Moffat has ruined this once amazing show.
Really? I know alot of people that came back to the show because it got good with the new doctor and started taking itself seriously again.
Not with stuff like Space Whale and "DINOSAURs, on a space ship"
One gathers this will also play in the USA in various formats.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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I'll believe it when I see it. How many times has she apparently left now? 6?
See, you're trying to use people logic. DM uses Mandelogic, which we've established has 2+2=quack. - Aerethan
Putin.....would make a Vulcan Intelligence officer cry. - Jihadin
AFAIK, there is only one world, and it is the real world. - Iron_Captain
DakkaRank Comment: I sound like a Power Ranger.
TFOL and proud. Also a Forge World Fan.
I should really paint some of my models instead of browsing forums.