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Fluff wise they shoehorned the necrons in so badly, firstly as 'ultimate ultimate bad guys' and now as 'well, fairly ultimate bad guys who aren't nearly as marysue as we realized we'd diluted the threat of chaos so entirely between the crons and the nids'.

Used to also be tau, but they're making them fit gradually, I still think regular crisis suits look absolutely terrible, but I love the hammerhead grav tank family, the stealth suits and the riptide, so it's getting there. Also a new player arriving to the table is a hell of a lot easier on my fluffnerves than 'ancient and terrible and ancient evil awakens... it's star gate meets terminator!', yeah, whatever pal, I have eldritch gods and daemons on one side and a biological fleet of world eating gribblies on the other.

Crons and tau. Both their playstyles of their typical lists don't actually involve "playing" with the other player. Very non-interactive.

Easily necrons. I'm talking mainly from a fluff standpoint though. I never had a problem with them until their 5th Ed book. They should not be turned into some universe threatening force like the nids, that's just stupid and it's trying to make an incredibly pointless faction have some sort of purpose. They should have been a sort of foil to the eldar, not idiotic cartoon villains with incredibly powerful tech, just because.

Also on a personal note, their models look incredibly silly. They should not look like stupid terminators, they should look like totally inhuman machines, not the laughable robot skeletons. Them being given so much love by gw is even worse, since they are just some pointless third rate faction undeserving of the attention.

"And nobody seems to hate the IG at least!"

I do as their play style doesn't involve any interaction due to being a gunline army

I don't know that I 'hate' any faction, but I rather dislike Adeptus Sororitas. The whole concept is lame to me.

SGTPozy wrote:
Space Marines (all flavours) and Orks are the worst because they're the 'kiddie' armies:

Space Marines are 40k lite; how else would you explain ignoring morale (as it's too difficult for children to understand), having all 4s (except attacks and save) for characteristics (so kiddies don't forget) and having every unit good at everything (so children don't get upset when their unit can't hurt their opponent's unit)?

And Orks are just there for people who can't do good conversions (Can I use my shoe as a battlewagon?).

...Why do you virulently hate anyone under 18....?

 saithor wrote:
and Tyrannids ... Zerg with new name

This may come as a shock to you, but the Tyranids predate the Zerg by 11 years. Here's a magazine insert advertising them from 1988:

I don't hate any faction, but I dislike Tyranids. I don't like any kind of man-eating creatures from outer space (never liked Alien or stuff like that). There's only one thing a Tyranid is good for:

kronk wrote:I hate Space Marines, so I play 3 different chapters.

My electro-shock therapist has recently upped the voltage.

these guys?

I hate guard with a burning passion. Their turns are just roll dice, see what I kill. At least tau requires SOME thought and doesn't have a billion models and tanks to move around. With guard its generally a game of pickup models while he gets 4+ cover saves from adl and ruins while I slog over there to punch them.

Not a big fan of the Space Wolves. Way too "Specialer Marine +1" and their fluff has gone from just 40k-Bad to Atrocious. Liked them a lot back in the day, but in recent years they've just become Marty Stue.

Not really a fan of Stormtroopers as their own, stand-alone group. They were always supposed to be small-unit specialists, a tool used by the Imperium to crack the hardest nuts to flood that breach with the IG, or to provide some in-field firepower to Inquisitors.

I haven't played enough games to dislike any army gameplay-wise, but fluff wise I find Eldar boring, but that's probably because I just don't like elves in pretty much any setting. Elves are always the "dignified, holier-than thou race that is so super-special and mystic, and the puny mortal races could never understand their higher thinking." Bluh. I mean, sure, the Eldar f d up a lot, but just like with the Asari in Mass Effect, they're still that dignified, super-advanced alien race. Give me something more earnest, like dwarves or orks, which I typically like in most settings.

Tau, I just don't get them, they look somewhat mean, but love to fight from a distance. What the hell is giving a race such short life spans I mean 40 years, bugger that.

Also their walkers look like rejects from a Transformers designers sketch pad.

Nothing to see, move along

I am so surprised demons aren't getting more hate. WHY DON'T YOU ALL HATE THE DEMONS?!

I guess I'm the weird one...

 zgort wrote:
I am so surprised demons aren't getting more hate. WHY DON'T YOU ALL HATE THE DEMONS?!

I guess I'm the weird one...

Fine, I'll hate the demons if you really need it that much.

Except the beasts of nurgle. They're too cuddly to hate.

SGTPozy wrote:
"And nobody seems to hate the IG at least!"

I do as their play style doesn't involve any interaction due to being a gunline army

Said the Tau player


I personally don't hate any of the factions, but my least-liked probably has to be Craftworld Eldar are Space Wolves...

SWs because they are SM +1 and more Marty Stu than people claim Ultramarines to be (but it's ok for the SWs to be like that because... they aren't UM??)
CE because... um, I dunno? Probably because I haven't read much of their fluff so there isn't anything for to like about them.

 zgort wrote:
I am so surprised demons aren't getting more hate. WHY DON'T YOU ALL HATE THE DEMONS?!

I guess I'm the weird one...

I actually find Daemons interesting to fight because AP is meaningless, so I can use virtually any weapon in my arsenal. They're one of the "big bad" factions in the game with the most interesting backstory (admittedly you REALLY have to read into it and squint and grasp for meaning to really get everything out of the story of the Warp, but I like that crap.)

I've preached it so much it should be obvious, but Necrons and Grey Knights. I will always hate them fluff and rules wise.

As far as Daemons, eh...I hate Nurgle but really it's small potatoes compared to the OP Necrons and Grey Knights and their god awful super special fluff.

 Matthew wrote:
Are there any 40K factions that you hate, fluffwise, in game, or just the looks of it? I myself hate Tau. I once played a small 300 points skirmish at my FLGS, with 3 people on each team (900 points per team), I brought 10 Chaos Marines, a Rhino and 5 Raptors. I decided to assault a Tau players forces. Bad move. They obliterated all of my guys ina single turn. Now, a hatred burns inside of me. Ugh...

I'd start to hate my own army if I lost to Tau in assault like that. Luckily that hasn't happened to me this millennium so I can just focus on hating Eldar. On second thought, who am I kidding? I hate the Tau too.

Necrons, I find them really uninspired as a concept. I remember when they came out I just kind of felt like, "Really? Space undead that look like the terminator? That's the best you came up with?" I find some of Space Marines chapters and certainly the Inquisition and DE really despicable fluff wise but what good is a villain that you can't hate? So I respect them for that. All said and done Tau drew me to 40k for the reasons so many hate them.... I couldn't stand the evil of the Imperium acting as the default good guys for being the "least bad" in 40k. So when the Star Trek race meets Mao group came along I had an army I could get behind and have fun role playing as. Anyways, like my hate for the Inquisition and DE... Your hate for Tau should give you something to be passionate about and enjoy in the game. So you actually love the Tau. And the Greater Good

Woah, two pages in less than 24 hours! Keep it coming!

A tyranid swarm is fun to play against but I don't like the fluff.

I like the fluff of Dark Eldar but don't like playing against them (haven't played new Dark Eldar though)

More then anything I love fighting against some good old chaos daemons. I like random stuff, and especially two daemon armies fighting head to head, its a good way for expensive laughs.

To be honest, I don't really hate any army. I feel like they all bring something to the fluff side of 40k.
And with games, I don't care if I lose.

"...Why do you virulently hate anyone under 18....?"

I don't hate them personally, just the armies designed for them, especially when you see older people playing them and complaining about how other armies ignore most of the rules.

"Said the Tau player"

That' why I said it as everyone's quick to attack Tau for being a gunline army yet they ignore the biggest gunline army; Imperial Guard!

As a Necron player, I dislike eldar / warp spawn from a fluff stand point, I dislike playing against knights. They're scary

Eldar. Literally dumbest race in the entire galaxy in terms of IQ and diplomacy. I'm serious. Orks don't count because its ingrained in them and Tyranids are just a hive mind.

DE are cool. Least they're honest donkey-caves.

 Lammikkovalas wrote:

 Matthew wrote:
Are there any 40K factions that you hate, fluffwise, in game, or just the looks of it? I myself hate Tau. I once played a small 300 points skirmish at my FLGS, with 3 people on each team (900 points per team), I brought 10 Chaos Marines, a Rhino and 5 Raptors. I decided to assault a Tau players forces. Bad move. They obliterated all of my guys ina single turn. Now, a hatred burns inside of me. Ugh...

I'd start to hate my own army if I lost to Tau in assault like that. Luckily that hasn't happened to me this millennium so I can just focus on hating Eldar. On second thought, who am I kidding? I hate the Tau too.

It's not so much losing to Tau in assault as much as it is getting overwatched by practically the entire army and whatever not-BS1 they overwatch at.

Didn't really think of them as a 'faction' in the wider sense, but on the subject of 'specialer marines', Grey Knights. I hate Grey Knights. I didn't used to, when they were a mysterious order of nasty bastards, but then the 5th edition codex marysued all over the floor in a big gushing puddle and yeah... Grey fething Knights...

Shas'Nel Tau wrote:
Necrons, I find them really uninspired as a concept. I remember when they came out I just kind of felt like, "Really? Space undead that look like the terminator? That's the best you came up with?" I find some of Space Marines chapters and certainly the Inquisition and DE really despicable fluff wise but what good is a villain that you can't hate? So I respect them for that. All said and done Tau drew me to 40k for the reasons so many hate them.... I couldn't stand the evil of the Imperium acting as the default good guys for being the "least bad" in 40k. So when the Star Trek race meets Mao group came along I had an army I could get behind and have fun role playing as. Anyways, like my hate for the Inquisition and DE... Your hate for Tau should give you something to be passionate about and enjoy in the game. So you actually love the Tau. And the Greater Good

That's actually a big thing for me too, there are many armies I "villain hate" quite hard (Chaos, 'Nids, 'Crons, Dark Eldar, etc.) and while that absolutely stops me from collecting or playing them, I don't "properly" hold it against them because of that.
As a result, all the factions I TRULY hate as opposed to "villain hate" or simply being uninterested in them are all IOM factions actually.

I don't hate factions as much as I hate really cheesy lists, I can tolerate all factions(except orks), but when they bring super cheese, I.e. 1 knight in a 500 pt game, that's when I get angry, then I Gauss everything xhibit style

I despise orks. I hate the self righteous attitude the player base has, i hate the humble bragging and the goddamn ork speak. I would rather play against eldar then orks, cuz then atleast something would happen.

"Oh, you brought a greentide? Guess ill just sit here and wait. My strat is now gunline, feth me right?"

Seriously orks are a joke. Every single ork olayer ive gone up against gets so mad each time they lose its sad.

If theres one army i would delete without hesitation its orks