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Hello there. I currently play Imperial Guard with Space Wolves. I recently purchased a box of Kastelan robots and am going to buy one more mechanicus set, but not sure which one so I can compliment my army fielding properly. Any tips would be greatly appreciated, since I have no idea really how they play yet. Thanks!

Well to field properly with the robots you would ALSO need a dominus and two units of breachers/destroyers in some cbination. The skitarii however can run just two five man units. So if you are using vanguard 110 points total, not too much of an investment. And you can get it all in one box.

What about electro priests? What are some of the better ways to field the kastelan robots?

Electro priests are hot garbage.

Check out the tactics mechanicus thread ( All hail Mars!) or, you know, read the codex

Why are Electro priests garbage?? From what I gathered they can do pretty cool stuff...

And I have read the codex. Obviously I thought the Electro priests were neat and I'm being told they are garbage. So it turns out my questions are still valid.

from what I understand, electro priests are a slow glass hammer that is made of super expensive rare glass.

Hmm I am rather disappointed by that. I had high hopes for them... They truly are a worthless choice? I was reading that the Skitarii have much better choices for fielding over the priests. Which I'm now looking more into focusing on. I know I can field them all basically together. I just wanna make sure I compliment each other properly and not field garbage, like I was planning.

I was attempting to go through the "Tactics Mechanics" thread but all of the Cult listing are not there. Has anyone anything to offer to help field Kastelan robots more effectively? Solo or allied with IG or SW?

 Greyguy13 wrote:
Hmm I am rather disappointed by that. I had high hopes for them... They truly are a worthless choice? I was reading that the Skitarii have much better choices for fielding over the priests. Which I'm now looking more into focusing on. I know I can field them all basically together. I just wanna make sure I compliment each other properly and not field garbage, like I was planning.

I was attempting to go through the "Tactics Mechanics" thread but all of the Cult listing are not there. Has anyone anything to offer to help field Kastelan robots more effectively? Solo or allied with IG or SW?

Kastelans are punishingly slow and susceptible to the general consensus of the "online meta" i.e. grav spam for imperium/SM and Strength D / S6 Spam for Eldar. These are the two most played races and should consider first when designing a list .

The best load out for Kastelans are 2 Heavy Phospher blasters. As they are MCs already, they already come with Smash so theres not all that much gained from power fists - especially when they are walking the whole distance. With Phosphor, this gives you a good anti bike/ anti MEQ gun platform however you need canticles to boost their shooting ability. Theres a pretty good but incredibly expensive formation that lets you create a Deathstar with a minimum of 2 units of kastalens and a dominus. I'm sure you've read it however theres a cool in-depth look over this formation on FLG.

Check it out!
https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2015/08/05/cohort-cybernetica-tactics/


The best way to field SWs right now are Thunderwolves - as these are expensive units themselves, i don't think that Kastalans would compliment them all that much. Kataphrons on the other hand with grav compliment everything and anything - especially as they are hitting with concussive SR and most thunderwolves have fists and hammers.

Skitatii compliment SWs quite well too with good AA and scouting ability. Overall I prefer the Skitarii codex but theres a few tricks in the cult mech book that are awesome.

Avoid Electropriests. 18 pts for a T3 guy with a 5+ is dogshite. No need to even consider these for a game other than they look cool. massive shame.

 Orock wrote:
Well to field properly with the robots you would ALSO need a dominus and two units of breachers/destroyers in some cbination. The skitarii however can run just two five man units. So if you are using vanguard 110 points total, not too much of an investment. And you can get it all in one box.

Or he can use formations like Cohort Cybernetica or Elimination Maniple. Also he could use ally foc. Grav-destroyers are good troop unit.

Man now I am not sure if I should get the Vanguard or Kataphron guys. I was not aware having a dominus was that important, however I will definitely be trying out the death star. I may just have to get those kataphrons to help support my SW. I literally have zero grav guns in my army at all as it turns out...

I need to read the formations a little better. I really appreciate the advice so far. Thank you

 Orock wrote:
Well to field properly with the robots you would ALSO need a dominus and two units of breachers/destroyers in some cbination. The skitarii however can run just two five man units. So if you are using vanguard 110 points total, not too much of an investment. And you can get it all in one box.

He only needs 1 unit of breachers/destroyers if he wants to run them in an Allied Detachment.

Kastelans are tough if you need a unit to sit on objectives, they're too slow to be an effective assault unit though, they're better in their shooty configuration. But they're expensive for a base 2 bot one smith unit.

Are those destroyers pretty good? I am literally on the fence with picking up a box of destroyers or sicarian chaps. I am really liking what I have read so far for the destroys.

 Greyguy13 wrote:
Hmm I am rather disappointed by that. I had high hopes for them... They truly are a worthless choice? I was reading that the Skitarii have much better choices for fielding over the priests. Which I'm now looking more into focusing on. I know I can field them all basically together. I just wanna make sure I compliment each other properly and not field garbage, like I was planning.

I was attempting to go through the "Tactics Mechanics" thread but all of the Cult listing are not there. Has anyone anything to offer to help field Kastelan robots more effectively? Solo or allied with IG or SW?

Whoops. Updating all Cult listings now.

Which unit would be used best with SW?

1 Kastellans should be phosphor blaster only (its 15pt for a hell of a lot more firepower)

2 destroyer grav cannons are pure murder pored into a servitor shaped mold

3 vanguard are number 1 radiation guns destroy EVERYTHING (except tanks)

4 tech priest dominus does not need upgrades, take him stock and shove a relic on him if you feel like it.

5 remember you have no transports BUTyou do get a free scout move on all your skitarii units; cult units weather the storm and skitarii are the hammer you use to stove the enemies head in while they chuck 99% of their fire at the destroyers (seriously if those fire once any opponent is going to prioritize killing them)


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 Greyguy13 wrote:
Are those destroyers pretty good? I am literally on the fence with picking up a box of destroyers or sicarian chaps. I am really liking what I have read so far for the destroys.

You play IG right? Buy some ogres instead and use spare heavy weps from your HWT, bit of greenstuff and spare wires and ta da kataphrons!

 Greyguy13 wrote:
Are those destroyers pretty good? I am literally on the fence with picking up a box of destroyers or sicarian chaps. I am really liking what I have read so far for the destroys.

Destroyers with grav are one of the best units in the game
Scicarian infiltrators are fun but really really fragile and difficult to use
Ruststalkers are not very good

T5 SnP+ with 2 wounds and 2 guns and 30 inch 6 shot grav and are in the troop slot

Yea they're good, but pricey, bs3 and 4+ armor

If you want some really nice deep strike anti-armor, the Holy Requisitioner is actually a damn good formation. I took out an IK on turn 2 with it by putting arc breachers in two fire arcs. Deep strike without scatter potentially 12'' from any objective marker is pretty damn awesome. Useless if your opponent doesn't have vehicles though.

Would the Kastelan death star work well against Tyranids? Kind of wanted to try it out but no idea if they would be effective.


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