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The Celestant Prime
move 12", save 3+, 8 wounds, bravery 10
Can fly

Two weapons
Ghal Maraz R2" Attacks 2 Hit 3+ Wound 2+ Rend -3 damage 3
The Commetstrike Sceptre- calls down a comet from the heavens. Pick a point on the board within 24" and roll a die; any model within the die's range of the point takes d3 mortal wounds.

The Celestant Prime does not start the battle on the table. Instead he is in the Celestial Realm drawing additional power into Ghal Maraz. Each round decide whether or not he will enter the battlefield during the movement phase. For each round he stays in the Celestial Realm, he gains 2 additional attacks with Ghal Maraz.

When he comes on, set him up outside 9" from enemy models anywhere on the board. He can't move any further, and any enemy models within 12" lose 2 bravery until the next hero phase.

Once per round, the mystical energies that swirl around his feet, grant him insight. You can change one die roll of your choice for the Celestant Prime before modifiers.

I hope to god he is the size of a bloodthirster, sigmarines would make great daemon army for 40k...

I hope to god he is the size of a bloodthirster, sigmarines would make great daemon army for 40k...

Well, Sigmar is a god, and he created the stormcast, whom comes back to him when they die, so they are kinda Sigmar daemons

Anyway, even thought i'm into fantasy, I find those release boring .. ( not to mentionoverpriced ) I'm glad stormcasts are over soon, so GW can do more exiting stuff.

Also, i've read The gate of Azyr, The realgate war, and most of Ghal Maraz. Not bad but it only narates battles, and the world is not much describe, sadly.

Maybe its Slaanesh, anything could be going on under all that armour !

Just been reading some Elric, so I should be all over ridiculous chaos castles, but the price is most definitely not right.

In an earlier post i said I'd probably get the Blood Warriors since they're perfect for my project. The. I saw that they $124 for ten. $12+ per model! What the frak? Hell no GW. Hell no.

-C6

 catharsix wrote:
In an earlier post i said I'd probably get the Blood Warriors since they're perfect for my project. The. I saw that they $124 for ten. $12+ per model! What the frak? Hell no GW. Hell no.

-C6

You're on the NZ site, I'm betting. They're 62 US$ for ten:
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Khorne-Bloodbound-Blood-Warriors

To slow

 Nicky J wrote:

 catharsix wrote:
In an earlier post i said I'd probably get the Blood Warriors since they're perfect for my project. The. I saw that they $124 for ten. $12+ per model! What the frak? Hell no GW. Hell no.

-C6

You're on the NZ site, I'm betting. They're 62 US$ for ten:
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Khorne-Bloodbound-Blood-Warriors

Lol...

You're right. Feel kinda silly now. But with GW's obscene pricing shenanigans these days, it's not all that absurd seeming. Now I have to decide if they're worth $62...

-C6

Im not sure if anyone has noticed or pointed it out yet, but its quite clear there is literally no interior detailing for the arch pieces. Look how noticeable it is compared to the outside. Theres literally not a shred of detail on the inside. I understand you wont see it much but even some basic texture would have been nice. It reeks of lazyness.

...wow. At those prices that's extremely poor.

It isn't an arch, it's a section of wall. There isn't any inside detail because you aren't meant to see/place models inside it. You're meant to use the gate/keeps.

That said, it's pretty poor that GW don't supply any actual pieces separately or with the walls to block the ends off, forcing you to use a gate or keep (or but another set to get an ending plate).

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
It isn't an arch, it's a section of wall. There isn't any inside detail because you aren't meant to see/place models inside it. You're meant to use the gate/keeps.

That said, it's pretty poor that GW don't supply any actual pieces separately or with the walls to block the ends off, forcing you to use a gate or keep (or but another set to get an ending plate).

I wonder if the wide part of another wall would fit?

I own a massive amount of GW scenery, but I think I'll be holding off on this one. I'll get the book, see how often it would ever get used in a scenario. But probably will only be picking up a kit when i want something for a project or conversion.

I just don't need another bunch of scenery taking up shelf space, unless it's getting used.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
It isn't an arch, it's a section of wall. There isn't any inside detail because you aren't meant to see/place models inside it. You're meant to use the gate/keeps.

That said, it's pretty poor that GW don't supply any actual pieces separately or with the walls to block the ends off, forcing you to use a gate or keep (or but another set to get an ending plate).

That's not accurate, though.

The wall section isn't even sold by itself through retail or independents. The only way you can buy one by itself is web order (direct), as an add-on to your other keep parts. When you buy the wall section as a part of the kit it comes in, both ends are finished (one with a tower, the other with an end piece).


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 mikhaila wrote:

I own a massive amount of GW scenery, but I think I'll be holding off on this one. I'll get the book, see how often it would ever get used in a scenario. But probably will only be picking up a kit when i want something for a project or conversion.

I just don't need another bunch of scenery taking up shelf space, unless it's getting used.

This describes my situation completely. It's to specifically themed, not part of another collection, and too large for me to just buy as more scenery. I really like terrain, but since I'm not going to go all out and populate a giant table with Chaos scenery, having a few pieces just isn't helpful.

If they had made more Wall of Martyrs or Cities of Death, I would have snapped it up though

If they make an Eldar or Tau "Cities of Death" type scenery... OMG. I would go crazy. It's all I would paint for like 3 years.

Looking at it more, it's really designed as a modeling show piece, not a gaming piece. It's just too big to function on the average tabletop. Fine for some, but it's not for me.

 Talys wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
It isn't an arch, it's a section of wall. There isn't any inside detail because you aren't meant to see/place models inside it. You're meant to use the gate/keeps.

That said, it's pretty poor that GW don't supply any actual pieces separately or with the walls to block the ends off, forcing you to use a gate or keep (or but another set to get an ending plate).

That's not accurate, though.

The wall section isn't even sold by itself through retail or independents. The only way you can buy one by itself is web order (direct), as an add-on to your other keep parts. When you buy the wall section as a part of the kit it comes in, both ends are finished (one with a tower, the other with an end piece).

The single wall piece isn't Direct Only, the bundle with 4 is. Plus bundles like 'Magabane Wall' (Gate and Walls) don't come with endcaps. The Gate by itself doesn't have any ends and t's kit doesn't come with endcaps. You HAVE to buy one of the mage-mega expensive bundles or buy Skull Keep or the Overlord Bastion to not have holes at the end of your wall (Overlord Bastion is the ONLY set that isn't a one-click bundle that comes with endcaps, and even then it only has one).

 Spartan089 wrote:
Im not sure if anyone has noticed or pointed it out yet, but its quite clear there is literally no interior detailing for the arch pieces. Look how noticeable it is compared to the outside. Theres literally not a shred of detail on the inside. I understand you wont see it much but even some basic texture would have been nice. It reeks of lazyness.

Does it? It's the inside of a wall. Why would they texture the inside of a wall that you're never going to see?

Spartan089 wrote:
Im not sure if anyone has noticed or pointed it out yet, but its quite clear there is literally no interior detailing for the arch pieces. Look how noticeable it is compared to the outside. Theres literally not a shred of detail on the inside. I understand you wont see it much but even some basic texture would have been nice. It reeks of lazyness.

The interior decorator hired by the Bloody Blood Bloodthirsty Bloodwarriors, ran out of skulls. Apparently the economic crisis hit the worlds of AoS too.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:

The single wall piece isn't Direct Only, the bundle with 4 is. Plus bundles like 'Magabane Wall' (Gate and Walls) don't come with endcaps. The Gate by itself doesn't have any ends and t's kit doesn't come with endcaps. You HAVE to buy one of the mage-mega expensive bundles or buy Skull Keep or the Overlord Bastion to not have holes at the end of your wall (Overlord Bastion is the ONLY set that isn't a one-click bundle that comes with endcaps, and even then it only has one).

I suppose you can cap off the ends of the walls with either towers or gates (this is what happens with one end of the Bastion). So a reasonable setup requiring no endcaps is:

Tower - wall - gate - wall - Tower

But you are right; it would be better if they sold the endcaps (without buying the bastion) for people who wanted walls to just end flush.

By the way, thanks for pointing out that the 4-pack is web only, and the single is a normal order item. Which is so crazy, since the 4-pack is just 4x the price of the single.

Edit -- you know what's funny? I don't think the big, thousand-dollar set (the infernal realmfort) uses any end-caps If you look at the Bastion, you can see the endcap has a different demon head thing, and the Realmfort doesn't use it at either end of the circle (presumably because it's closed by a gate, instead of a wall-end).


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 toasteroven wrote:
Looking at it more, it's really designed as a modeling show piece, not a gaming piece. It's just too big to function on the average tabletop. Fine for some, but it's not for me.

I think the smaller configurations are usable as gaming terrain. I agree that the big chaos-star configuration is not playable for the vast majority of game tables. You'd essentially have nothing else on the table, and no practical way to travel around the fort or lay siege from the sides.

Besides, if you had the big set all built up, you'd need a LOT of models to make it make sense, and AoS is not a good ruleset for that many models. At least, I've yet to meet anyone who thinks it is

Nice terrain, but the price is a bit much. If very few people buy it, guess what? The price very much will come down.

That's not how GW rolls. If no one buys it, the price will go up. Higher price means more profits, right? I mean, it's not like high prices ever stopped someone from buying plastic crack, right?

 shabbadoo wrote:
Nice terrain, but the price is a bit much. If very few people buy it, guess what? The price very much will come down.

And when was the last time GW lowered the price of a kit like that?

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
That's not how GW rolls. If no one buys it, the price will go up. Higher price means more profits, right? I mean, it's not like high prices ever stopped someone from buying plastic crack, right?

This is not inaccurate. If something doesn't sell in volume, GW pulls it from regular channel to direct, which effectively increases the price (no discounts, higher margin for GW).

On the other hand, per cubic centimeter of terrain, these pieces are not really that extraordinarily priced. It just looks extraordinary because GW put together a spectacularly huge bundle that less than 0.1% of its players will be able to use on their gaming table.

If you've bought prefab terrain, it's all pretty expensive, and most of it isn't modular, certainly not enough to build something like the dreadfort configurations shown.

 shabbadoo wrote:
If very few people buy it, guess what? The price very much will come down.

No it won't. GW will never do that.

from BoLS http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/08/breaking-new-celestant-prime-model-rules-pics-leaked.html

via Scanner 8-22-2015


“YESSS!!!! The rules. The model is as big as Nagash, and standing on a celestrial fulgrim that looks more like the top of a Numinous Occulum. He is wielding the Ghal Maraz in his right hand, with wings fashioned after the prosecutor models, but bigger. One picture shows him towering over the Glottkin model.”

 shabbadoo wrote:
Nice terrain, but the price is a bit much. If very few people buy it, guess what? The price very much will come down.

Like those dirt cheap Sector Imperialis boards?

Not quite my style, but seeing the masstive price drops on these over the past few months, it's getting really, really hard to resist ... right?

You need 16 to make a full circle, and the gates themselves both count as 2 and come with two wall sections. The overloads come with a wall section each, so if I pinched two of them, add 2 extra wall sections that's 16.

So... 4 Overlord Bastions + 3 Malefic Gates + 2 Wall Sections should do.

I really do love the Khorntress.

*sigh* Of course there would be a Prime-arch to lead the Land Space Marines.

 Talys wrote:

I think the smaller configurations are usable as gaming terrain. I agree that the big chaos-star configuration is not playable for the vast majority of game tables. You'd essentially have nothing else on the table, and no practical way to travel around the fort or lay siege from the sides.

Besides, if you had the big set all built up, you'd need a LOT of models to make it make sense, and AoS is not a good ruleset for that many models. At least, I've yet to meet anyone who thinks it is

Yeah, that's what I was picturing. "Well, it looks great, but... where do I put my army?"

That said, I could actually see getting the 25$ wall piece and converting it up into its own independent piece of scenery... if only it weren't so skully.

On the other releases, I just want to see them get past the sigmarine and khorne fellas. Neither army holds much interest me, and the general hugeness of the models turns me off even more. I like the little guys, and they don't seem to be part of the current envisioning of the game.

I just wish they'd release plastic Flesh Hounds like the one the Khorne leader comes with.

So I took another look at the Dreadhold video..

Looks like new RoB boards incoming too. You can see Sigmar runes and twin-tailed comet symbols in some of the ruined building bits of the board.




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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
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Cheers for this and in English too! Usually get ze German or la French pics first..