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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Clearly he is trying to wrap his mind around the idea of a horn with finite internal volume and infinite surface area. Give the guy a break.

Is he a Knight Scotus?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 TheWaspinator wrote:
Yeah, I seriously question the ability of a metal man to blow a horn.

Or a skeleton.

I'm not sure why people keep referring to the Stormcast Eternals as "metal men". They're still mortal flesh underneath the armor, and it's not like there are not eye holes on the helmets so why not a mouth hole?

Its AoS, if the whiners can find something to whine about no matter how stupid it is they will whine.

To be fair these are some of the better looking stormcast released so far

 Rygnan wrote:
I don't mind the stormcast, unlike many, but I think that hornblower is the dumbest thing I've seen from AoS so far. Blows a horn, but has a helmet on. Really? Have the designers just given up on the stormcast at this point? Hopefully this means we'll be getting some more non-stormcast soon, because that's just stupid. If anything it could be the first unhelmeted eternal, but they had to make it match the rest and make it stupid

LOL. Yeah. But it's a magical trumpet

I think it would have looked more stupid to be the only guy with a non-helmed head. But the whole idea of trumpeteers and horn-blowers in an army is foreign to me anyhow. Must be a cultural thing!

The models aren't bad, but not nearly as exciting as prosecutors for me. I think the winged dudes were the biggest draw to AoS for myself. I just love those (non-transportable) wings.

 Talys wrote:
I think it would have looked more stupid to be the only guy with a non-helmed head. But the whole idea of trumpeteers and horn-blowers in an army is foreign to me anyhow. Must be a cultural thing!

More of a period thing, when you didn't have radios to keep in contact with your troops.

 Motograter wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 TheWaspinator wrote:
Yeah, I seriously question the ability of a metal man to blow a horn.

Or a skeleton.

I'm not sure why people keep referring to the Stormcast Eternals as "metal men". They're still mortal flesh underneath the armor, and it's not like there are not eye holes on the helmets so why not a mouth hole?

Its AoS, if the whiners can find something to whine about no matter how stupid it is they will whine.

To be fair these are some of the better looking stormcast released so far

WHF did have a skeleton hornblower. Never could quite wrap my head around that one.

I thought it might have been a bizarre telescope considering Sigmar's sign is that of the twin tailed comet.

Maybe he's watching the skies for some reason...

 Medium of Death wrote:
I thought it might have been a bizarre telescope considering Sigmar's sign is that of the twin tailed comet.

Maybe he's watching the skies for some reason...

He's called a Knight Heraldor.
Heralds traditionally announce things, what with the horns and fanfare.


But seriously, it's not that hard to justify this. There's mouth holes in the helms. The Stormcast can communicate amongst themselves with speech and communicate with others using speech, so obviously they can y'know...talk.

I wasn't aware of what he was called.

I was basing it on the fact that it's over his eye rather than his mouth.

He could be looking for further signs of Sigmar, the twin tailed comet is his "Herald"

 Talys wrote:
I think it would have looked more stupid to be the only guy with a non-helmed head.

I thought the only guy without a helmeted head was this one?

 Albertorius wrote:

 Talys wrote:
I think it would have looked more stupid to be the only guy with a non-helmed head.

I thought the only guy without a helmeted head was this one?

Nope, it's a helmet.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Talys wrote:
I think it would have looked more stupid to be the only guy with a non-helmed head.

I thought the only guy without a helmeted head was this one?

Nope, it's a helmet.

Is it? Don't remember it being stated, and in some of the artwork it looked like it wasn't so I kinda assumed it wasn't.

...mainly because otherwise, holy feth, GW, if that's not a chaplain I don't know what it is.

It's a helmet.

I should point out that Chaos Space Marines wear skull helmets too.. Does that make him one? No. Skull masks are pretty common...

 angelofvengeance wrote:
It's a helmet.

I should point out that Chaos Space Marines wear skull helmets too.. Does that make him one? No. Skull masks are pretty common...

Certainly are, but add to the SE==SM vibe of it all,particularly when it's the only one in the whole range, as it is in that other range.

Ah well, I'll have to slot that into my headcanon then.

The dude is covered in bones though. Like literally strapped to his armor.

Him wearing a skull helmet (you can actually see the screws/ nobs on it from behind), being covered in rattley bones that were once inside some other guy's body, and waving around the bones of some dead dude he knew is part of his whole shtick.

Everyone has a skeleton in them, just waiting to get out.

 Alpharius wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Clearly he is trying to wrap his mind around the idea of a horn with finite internal volume and infinite surface area. Give the guy a break.

Is he a Knight Scotus?

Unfortunately, I don't get the reference and Google keeps pointing to a recent Supreme Court ruling, which Probably isn't what you mean.

I was just making a calculus joke, perhaps the nerdiest kind of joke. With calculus jokes, there is no limit to the nerdiness, even if they are mostly derivative.

I would say they are integral to the roots of nerddom.

Exalted for such utter nerdiness.

Well done Bob.

[slow golf clap]

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Clearly he is trying to wrap his mind around the idea of a horn with finite internal volume and infinite surface area. Give the guy a break.

Is he a Knight Scotus?

Unfortunately, I don't get the reference and Google keeps pointing to a recent Supreme Court ruling, which Probably isn't what you mean.

I was just making a calculus joke, perhaps the nerdiest kind of joke. With calculus jokes, there is no limit to the nerdiness, even if they are mostly derivative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duns_Scotus

He basically asked "How many non-corporeal beings can fit in the smallest physical space we can imagine?" - but asked it more like "How many angels can fit on the head of a pin?"

For that and other overly subtle points, his followers were called "dunces" and well, you know.

Anyway, while I'm not liking the Sigmarites, and the Chaos stuff is just More Of The Same Khorne Krud, I do look forward to when GW re-does the 'existing' races for AoS!

I am painting the Lord Relictors helmet-head/ head-helmet gold so to me it is definitely a helmet. Or a skull that has been dipped
In gold. I think my point is I do not know which it is.

Not too keen on the standard or musician, especially after the coolness of Knight Azyross. Far too many character models in the Stormcast Eternal line for me as well. A greater variety of skank and file would be better.

Hero hammer is back. In all seriousness though hero's add so much to their forces its hard not to include them. The stormcast hero's in particular add a lot to the stormcast units really just depends what they do in order to see if they replace other hero's or if they simply add them in

 Motograter wrote:
Hero hammer is back. In all seriousness though hero's add so much to their forces its hard not to include them. The stormcast hero's in particular add a lot to the stormcast units really just depends what they do in order to see if they replace other hero's or if they simply add them in

On the bright side of that, Knight Venator is a pretty awesome hero slayer!

 Alpharius wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Clearly he is trying to wrap his mind around the idea of a horn with finite internal volume and infinite surface area. Give the guy a break.

Is he a Knight Scotus?

Unfortunately, I don't get the reference and Google keeps pointing to a recent Supreme Court ruling, which Probably isn't what you mean.

I was just making a calculus joke, perhaps the nerdiest kind of joke. With calculus jokes, there is no limit to the nerdiness, even if they are mostly derivative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duns_Scotus

He basically asked "How many non-corporeal beings can fit in the smallest physical space we can imagine?" - but asked it more like "How many angels can fit on the head of a pin?"

For that and other overly subtle points, his followers were called "dunces" and well, you know.

Anyway, while I'm not liking the Sigmarites, and the Chaos stuff is just More Of The Same Khorne Krud, I do look forward to when GW re-does the 'existing' races for AoS!

Ah, thanks. I had heard his work paraphrased, but never knew to whom to attribute the origin.

I really like the look of every Sigmarite mini so far...but can't stomach their prices. 50% off would get me to buy, but not MSRP.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

I really like the look of every Sigmarite mini so far...but can't stomach their prices. 50% off would get me to buy, but not MSRP.

I think in the USA, Frontline offers 25% off of everything. Not sure about shipping.

Here, we can get up to 33% off, which makes the prices a lot easier to stomach.

 Elemental wrote:

 Motograter wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 TheWaspinator wrote:
Yeah, I seriously question the ability of a metal man to blow a horn.

Or a skeleton.

I'm not sure why people keep referring to the Stormcast Eternals as "metal men". They're still mortal flesh underneath the armor, and it's not like there are not eye holes on the helmets so why not a mouth hole?

Its AoS, if the whiners can find something to whine about no matter how stupid it is they will whine.

To be fair these are some of the better looking stormcast released so far

WHF did have a skeleton hornblower. Never could quite wrap my head around that one.

Well, I mean...that's simple enough. The skeleton hornblower is the remains of a former regimental musician, with enough of their former personality hanging around to go through a gruesome parody of playing musical signals. Obviously it's not going to produce any noise, but it's tragic, darkly amusing, and probably seriously unnerving for the other side.

This guy, on the other hand, is supposedly one of the finest warriors eight separate worlds have to offer, imbued with the power of a god and drawing on countless memories of battles gone by. He really should know enough not to poke himself in the eye with his trumpet.

...Sigmar doesn't seem like a very bright deity, these days...

And I don't see any mouth holes...it looks like the lips are a molded part of their masks? Could be wrong, can anyone with Stormcast models confirm that?

I just get a cool army of darkness vibe from skeleton musicians

I'm quite excited for what undead stuff might appear

(Thank Mr Skeletal )

It's like the old Brettonian hornblower with the bucket helmet covering his entire head.

 Verviedi wrote:
It's like the old Brettonian hornblower with the bucket helmet covering his entire head.

Cries

We could have had new stuff but noooo we had to have this *thing*

{I can be excited for models yet hate what they've done}

(Thank Mr Skeletal)

 Spinner wrote:

 Elemental wrote:

 Motograter wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 TheWaspinator wrote:
Yeah, I seriously question the ability of a metal man to blow a horn.

Or a skeleton.

I'm not sure why people keep referring to the Stormcast Eternals as "metal men". They're still mortal flesh underneath the armor, and it's not like there are not eye holes on the helmets so why not a mouth hole?

Its AoS, if the whiners can find something to whine about no matter how stupid it is they will whine.

To be fair these are some of the better looking stormcast released so far

WHF did have a skeleton hornblower. Never could quite wrap my head around that one.

Well, I mean...that's simple enough. The skeleton hornblower is the remains of a former regimental musician, with enough of their former personality hanging around to go through a gruesome parody of playing musical signals. Obviously it's not going to produce any noise, but it's tragic, darkly amusing, and probably seriously unnerving for the other side.

This guy, on the other hand, is supposedly one of the finest warriors eight separate worlds have to offer, imbued with the power of a god and drawing on countless memories of battles gone by. He really should know enough not to poke himself in the eye with his trumpet.

...Sigmar doesn't seem like a very bright deity, these days...

And I don't see any mouth holes...it looks like the lips are a molded part of their masks? Could be wrong, can anyone with Stormcast models confirm that?

Stormcasts have eye slits as well as mouth slits in their helmets. I think re positioning the arm will not be too hard to have the horn aligned with the mouth and likely a small modeling error in assembly for the showcase mode. Many times they do not actually glue them together but blue tac them so they can reposition them easily (not sure if this was done in this case). Of all the things one could complain about in terms of design, complaining about the horn really seems to be scraping at the bottom of the barrel.

Well, if you wanted to get really in-depth, I'm pretty sure you'd need more than a mouth slit to sound that trumpet, but so long as they at least made a nod toward it, I suppose that's all right. The model itself looks kinda neat, in the same way that most of the Stormcast look kinda neat, but it still feels like it should be part of a centerpiece unit in a more varied force.

Fair point on the horn, but seriously. That's something they should have caught. Between the modeler, the photographer, their editing people...someone somewhere down the line should have pointed out that the way they had him put together makes it look like he's trying to peer through the trumpet at the approaching enemy hordes. If they put their display models in a silly pose and then publish pictures, I am absolutely going to make fun of them.

"They're getting REALLY close now, Not-Battle-Brother! Ooh, that one looks angry..."

Maybe this is what happens when you turn a goblin into a Stormcast Eternal?