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 Wehrkind wrote:
Perhaps, but I think that if they showed people previews of what was to come, renders or greens, then people would get excited and plan to buy new stuff.

I agree - but GW's long since stated that they think previews in advance of a few days...deter sales?

So, here we are!

 Kanluwen wrote:
They're not part of the Liberator unit. They're characters in and of themselves; like how Battle Standard Bearers are not part of a unit's boxed set.

No kidding, right? I get it though: some people see it like a Sanguinary Guard that's holding up a BA banner, where you can just attach a banner in the slot. The model is clearly very different, but there is one group of people who would rather a banner came with the Liberator box; and another group who don't like Sigmarites or their look anyhow, and figure ALL the Sigmarites look alike

But anyways, if you fall into the first category and just want to proxy one, stick a different banner onto the Relictor, or just paint his banner a different color, and just call him a Heraldor. If you fall into the second category, you weren't gonna buy him anyways


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 Alpharius wrote:

 Wehrkind wrote:
Perhaps, but I think that if they showed people previews of what was to come, renders or greens, then people would get excited and plan to buy new stuff.

I agree - but GW's long since stated that they think previews in advance of a few days...deter sales?

So, here we are!

The theory is that if they roadmap the lineup for the faction, people will plan their money and buy what they need. If they dribble it out, people will buy a bunch of stuff that is ultimately not so useful (from a gaming perspective). If they tell you Tau is coming after Sigmarites, maybe you save your money and don't buy the Sigmarites; if they don't, maybe by the time Tau comes out, you decide that you'll put off the camping trip to buy a new commander.

Or something like that

I'm not saying it works... I just think that's what the thought process is.

I also get that the rumor-news-release cycle is exciting for some GW fans, but I do think there's a compromise. It would be nice if there were at least a roadmap for what factions are likely to get releases for the year -- even if they didn't nail down the order, and even if the odd surprise popped up.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Wehrkind wrote:
Perhaps, but I think that if they showed people previews of what was to come, renders or greens, then people would get excited and plan to buy new stuff.

I agree - but GW's long since stated that they think previews in advance of a few days...deter sales?

So, here we are!

I can (sort of) see what they're saying. Though if anything, it's the price preview that deters sales lol.

If the other factions will get this amount of coverage then its going to be very busy and expensive for us.
I think its not going to happen though I believe that they needed to build up Sigmarites army from scratch and make like a relevant number of different units first. The other factions will probably just get a some heros and maybe a new regiment or two tops since most armies already exist ... oh! lets not forget the expensive codex to go with it.
So mostly I bet that its going to be repackaging with new bases, few extras and books... maybe some campaign books on top of that. GW is getting book spam ridiculous for some time now.

Lets face it since AoS was released there has been lots of extra stuff apart from SIgmar... You have TONS of new terrain, that skull castle is nothing minor in any way shape or form, its a freaking modular castle of biblical proportions ( I dont like the design or price though), there has been lots of Khorne goodies, models and kits for any chaos fan ( blood for the blood god has always been popular) and then several factions repackaging ( Forest Spirit Warhost, Nurgle Rotbringers, Pestilens...) For just a few months its been an extremely busy time for fantasy fans.

So its totally understandable that the Starter factions will get some more love than others, specially SIgmar that had no models before AoS.

I think that the Sigmarines are going to be the only 'army update' as we know in the traditional sense.

From here on out I think we'll see very small spot releases with a tied in campaign book. Remember all the rumours of small, limited edition batches? I think that'll be the case.

This just in from BoLS.. think this solves the "cogs" thing... looks like some sort of orrery.

Looks great! I hope my local GW gets one because I hate playing on the old RoB board (models sliding down hills everywhere).

But I would never get one myself. Gaming Mats all the way.

Lastly, the question that's been burning a whole in my brain since AoS began. Why do GW sometimes paint the base rims dark grey and other times in Steel Legion Drab???

What the heck is that... thing at the top of the picture? It looks even hornier than the Heraldor.

 NidLifeCrisis wrote:
What the heck is that... thing at the top of the picture? It looks even hornier than the Heraldor.

Do you mean the warshrine?

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Chaos-Warshrine

Cogs look good for any type of board, scifi, fantasy, steampunk... I prefer grass tables though.

"Buy all our playsets and toys!"

That board is gorgeous!

 NAVARRO wrote:
Cogs look good for any type of board, scifi, fantasy, steampunk... I prefer grass tables though.

Yeah, its hard to imagine a setting where it would not make sense to run around on titan sized clockwork hidden in the cracks of the ground.
I agree it looks good, just a bit weird for a "generic table".

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"Buy all our playsets and toys!"

Thats correct GW sells toys to play their games.

OT I like the board is that the same as the pieces from the demo set?

MOD EDIT - "FTFY" is something generally NOT allowed here - Alpharius

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 NidLifeCrisis wrote:
What the heck is that... thing at the top of the picture? It looks even hornier than the Heraldor.

Do you mean the warshrine?

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Chaos-Warshrine

That would indeed seem to be the badger. Thanks!

 Fayric wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Cogs look good for any type of board, scifi, fantasy, steampunk... I prefer grass tables though.

Yeah, its hard to imagine a setting where it would not make sense to run around on titan sized clockwork hidden in the cracks of the ground.
I agree it looks good, just a bit weird for a "generic table".

If you play 40k, AoS, Warmachine, Hordes, malifaux and some others fantasy based games I do not see a problem. LIke I said I prefer, jungle, grass, debris tables that can go with a wider range of games.

 Bottle wrote:
I think that the Sigmarines are going to be the only 'army update' as we know in the traditional sense.

I don't. Look at the visual aesthetic of, say, the Eternal Guard/Wildwood Ranger kit compared to the normal Glade Guard. There is a very different aesthetic going on there when one handles the models.

Or hell, look at any of the armies where they got some kind of plastic infantry kit prior to the End Times and still have large swathes of their range in Finecast or metal.

From here on out I think we'll see very small spot releases with a tied in campaign book. Remember all the rumours of small, limited edition batches? I think that'll be the case.

Yeah, and the rumors of "small, limited edition batches" were also tied with rumors of this being a new edition of Fantasy(specifically using the term "9th edition" as well) not a whole new streamlined game system.

Yep, maybe it won't happen. But in a system where all the rules are free and every unit from every faction can be added to any army, GW have the perfect set up for small limited batches.

Imagine the Sylvaneth release or the Clan Pestilens release but with new models. I doubt we'll get a big "Duardin" release for example, instead the Fyreslayers will come in a small release with a campaign book (for example) and then we might see a small death "Deathrattle" release etc.

Oh joy, another butt ugly tile....

Oh joy, another hater

That tile looks amazing. Still not buying a RoB board though.

 jonolikespie wrote:
Oh joy, another butt ugly tile....

I actually quite like it, but it feels quite limited in application (people have been saying it can be used in all sorts but it definitely feels very AoS, I couldn't see myself using it even for 40k) and just is not worth the price of a RoB board and whatever outrageous price they'll charge for one tile.

There's a whole board coming. We have a kind of picture of it in the main Age of Sigmar book(page 164's terrain setup).

It seems to consist of 4 different tiles:
The celestial mechanism, a tile with a broken piece of masonry(wide enough for a single model on up to the Khorgarath sized base) over a small rift with lava flows, a tile with a broken road track, and a last tile with some scarring in the ground and a small rift filled with lava.

So cogs are the new skulls?

 Bottle wrote:
Looks great! I hope my local GW gets one because I hate playing on the old RoB board (models sliding down hills everywhere).

But I would never get one myself. Gaming Mats all the way.

Lastly, the question that's been burning a whole in my brain since AoS began. Why do GW sometimes paint the base rims dark grey and other times in Steel Legion Drab???

All 40k / Fantasy models have been painted with steel legion drab for a long time. Recently, they switched to the dark grey rims for AoS. No idea why; if anything, it should be the other way around, because 40k models are more likely to be played on a "steel" or "cement' surface (like Cities of Death), with AoS more likely to be played on a "natural" surface. But whatever... I like the steel legion drab better for both -- I find it a more interesting neutral than grey.

Resin boards make tons of sense if you play at home (or at someone else's home), and you have space to store them. Sector Imperialis rocks.

Whether I buy this one will depend on if it can be used in 40k


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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So cogs are the new skulls?

You know, if they had Dreadfort with all cogs... that would be so cool


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 ImAGeek wrote:
I actually quite like it, but it feels quite limited in application (people have been saying it can be used in all sorts but it definitely feels very AoS, I couldn't see myself using it even for 40k) and just is not worth the price of a RoB board and whatever outrageous price they'll charge for one tile.

I bet it's a set of 6, probably for $363. I think we've already seen 4 of them in various photos.

The price isn't actually that crazy for 6x4 tiles. The nearest comparable is SWM, which is $250 + $20 shipping (no free shipping for tablescapes) = $270. With a 25% discount, RoB is $272; with a 10% discount (the most you can normally get at SWM) ithat's $243. And, one's plastic while the other is resin.

If you look at the high quality mats like Frontline's or Gamemat.eu, including shipping, they can be pretty pricey too -- $150-ish, once you get it shipped to Canada. Of course, you don't have to paint the mat, so if you're not into that, this is a big plus, and it stores / transports a ton easier.

I quite like the visual direction they're going in, they're taking high fantasy to the next level. I definitely miss the grit and horror of the Old World, but AoS has a mystic presence few lore sets I've encountered can match.

And I think the board would look fine under 40k, Warmahordes, Malifaux, and a million other fantasy based games I've seen on KS. But not most sci-fi like Infinity. 40k has a baroque style that I feel would integrate well though, especially for Tzeentch or Inquisition.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
So cogs are the new skulls?

It's supposed to be an orrery:



And even then few of the circles set into the board are actual cogs, most have astronomical-type graphics with no legitimate cog teeth.

I guess the board is dedicated to Chamon, due to those metal parts. And the Tzeentchian looking fortress they tore down there. Looks nice, I like it.

 Bottle wrote:
Looks great! I hope my local GW gets one because I hate playing on the old RoB board (models sliding down hills everywhere)

Even with those lipped bases?? Interesting.

New board looks great. Fits in well with the AoS aesthetic. IMHO, the fact that it can ONLY be used for AoS is a problem. At the expensive prices that GW is commanding, I think most gamers with the coin to invest would be looking for something a bit more multipurpose. The best one that GW makes for this is the original RoB - the only failings being that the skullpits need to be filled and the fixed hills are a bit poorly thought out. The City one is overly festooned with 40k iconography, and this AoS one is too setting specific when combined with the buildings from other settings.

IMHO mats will never be as cool as modeled, textured boards. The modeled, textured boards on the other hand have too many problems to make them practical... the damn things are hard to store, keep clean and take a long time to build. Mats are the choice for expediency. Shipping is substantive however, as the things are surprisingly heavy.