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I find way too many of GW's big kits these days seem to rely on the fact that they are big as their main selling point, but aren't actually that good because of the technical limitations of plastic over such a large model being built from 2 (or if it is really expensive 3) frames.

This looks like just another of those crappy monsters imo.

But then I really dislike the new bloodthirsters, new treemen and the trio of Nagash's lieutenants on those flying mounts so what do I know?

I don't think I've actually noticed any of the limitations of plastic on the big monster kits. They are very cleverly made to get around them from what I've found. I was incredibly impressed with my treeman kit.

It's just little things like the fur on the Verminlord that always look like play doh and the skulls on the bloodthirsters that are all perfectly identical copy paste jobs on CAD that get me. Having said that I have never built a treeman kit, that one I just think is a bad aethetical choice for giving a tree hair.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
But it's been months since those, and GW puts the prices up with each release nower days.

The Celestant-Prime came out in late August/early September for $80. That isn't too long ago.
Mortarchs were with the "Nagash" book and came in at $79.
The Maggoth Lords came out with "Glottkin" and just got repackaged to have round bases with no price increase from their $76 price point.

In all of those instances, people expected them to break the $100 mark. They did not.

ImAGeek wrote:Yeah it's a lot lot bigger than the Celestant Prime and the Mortarchs.

I dunno. We only have one photo with anything that could be used for scale comparisons, and those are not always helpful.

I'm saying $80 on the lowside, $109 on the high side(same price as The Glottkin).

I think the mount started as the Chaos Manticore.
Slapped new armor textures over the legs and added a fancy tail and 3 heads. Adjusted the pose a bit.
Are the wings unique to that model?

Very disappointed that they are committing to removing one of the four gods. Just feels wrong.
Of course, destroying their unique universe and replacing it with a weird pastiche of WoW and 40k feels wrong also, and they did that.

It's going to be at least £80, I reckon. That photo shows the scale pretty well, it's got the big Nurgle infantry right at the base, at the same height, so it's not even like perspective is making it look bigger. It's a fair amount bigger than Skarbrand who's £80.

Archaon looks okay, aside from ridiculously large horns and the top knot.

That thing he's riding on though? Well I think it looks like a rejected design from Diablo with the Chaos Gods(well 3 of them) heads slapped on.

Contemplating replacing the Khorne and Nurgle heads with the avian head from the chimera kit, and probably replacing the shield with something a little more Tzeentchy. Won't take too much to convert.

 skrulnik wrote:
I think the mount started as the Chaos Manticore.
Slapped new armor textures over the legs and added a fancy tail and 3 heads. Adjusted the pose a bit.
Are the wings unique to that model?

Very disappointed that they are committing to removing one of the four gods. Just feels wrong.
Of course, destroying their unique universe and replacing it with a weird pastiche of WoW and 40k feels wrong also, and they did that.

There's still a mark of Slaanesh on his shield. Plus they've said he's missing. Not gone entirely. Really wish people would stop flapping about this.

Looks bigger than the glottkin and probably more expensive too but its bad ass number 1 for chaos.

I don't care what it costs or what its missing that thing is cool as hell and I will be picking that up!

The principle idea of the three heads embodying one of each of the chaos gods is good as a concept but poor execution has made it look ridiculous, almost comical. Luckily Archon still looks like a major bad ass.

I don't think the Tzeentchian head should have been the main one.

Khorne in the centre with Nurgle and Tzeentch being on opposite sides would have made sense from a fluff perspective.

I like the pose and the giant bat like wings.

I hope they give us an Archaon on foot model.

 Medium of Death wrote:
I don't think the Tzeentchian head should have been the main one.

Khorne in the centre with Nurgle and Tzeentch being on opposite sides would have made sense from a fluff perspective.

I like the pose and the giant bat like wings.

I hope they give us an Archaon on foot model.

Doubtful...

I think i dont like it. The model could have been badass, but the three heads just dont.cut it for me. Would have looked a lot better with a more regular daemonic or draconic head. Maybe ill change my opinion with better pics, but i doubt it

Much as I hate 'Age of Sigmar' I will admit the new archaeon model on the new pantheon of chaos chimera is super cool and fantastic looking. I am bummed no slaanesh and no horned rat part of it and am curious why. I'm sure slaanesh was taken out due to not being PG enough but if the horned rat is now part of the pantheon why is he not represented? I don't entirely like the idea of him as a chaos god in most ways but he should be there as well. All that said a proper chimera has 3 heads I'm pretty sure so having 4 gods represented wouldn't make sense. Perhaps if the horned rat represents the body of it but that might not look too spectacular.

After getting back to work on a Carnosaur kit I've had for some time, I started wondering if perhaps there might be some optional parts in this kit as well.

Yeah, Archaeon is a named character, but so was Kroq-Gar and parts for him were included in that Carnosaur kit. Hell, there was a an on- foot version as well if you went with a skink rider.

Just a random thought, and probably a lot of wishful thinking at that.

By GW's line of thinking, multiple builds should equal multiple purchases though, right?

I would be really surprised if this could build anyone other than Archaon, as the mount is Archaon's Daemonic Steed all growed up.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Much as I hate 'Age of Sigmar' I will admit the new archaeon model on the new pantheon of chaos chimera is super cool and fantastic looking. I am bummed no slaanesh and no horned rat part of it and am curious why. I'm sure slaanesh was taken out due to not being PG enough but if the horned rat is now part of the pantheon why is he not represented? I don't entirely like the idea of him as a chaos god in most ways but he should be there as well. All that said a proper chimera has 3 heads I'm pretty sure so having 4 gods represented wouldn't make sense. Perhaps if the horned rat represents the body of it but that might not look too spectacular.

Maybe they left the slaanesh part off Dorghar cause he's not quite as strong this time around? Though Slaanesh still has a mark on the shield. Wouldn't make sense to have the Horned Rat represented. He may be part of the pantheon, but he's only really looking out for the Skaven race and himself. Why would he care about the Man-things?

Iirc, a chimera traditionnaly has a tail that ends in a serpent face. It would be fitting to have a slaneeshi face there

I think he will be over $100. The mortarchs/maggoth lords were the same price as the celestent, but the latter is a smaller model (more so considering most of his bulk is wings and swirly bits). Skarbrand is $130 and he isn't as big as this new Archaon. I am betting $140 or more for the new lord of the end times.

On the topic of god representation, Slaanesh is missing but his shield still has the mark and he still has the Slaanesh keyword. Pretty sure the dark prince will get some releases when they get around to the elf storyline. The Horned Rat is not represented because Archaon views him as a pretender, a false god unworthy of worship.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I think he will be over $100. The mortarchs/maggoth lords were the same price as the celestent, but the latter is a smaller model (more so considering most of his bulk is wings and swirly bits). Skarbrand is $130 and he isn't as big as this new Archaon. I am betting $140 or more for the new lord of the end times.

On the topic of god representation, Slaanesh is missing but his shield still has the mark and he still has the Slaanesh keyword. Pretty sure the dark prince will get some releases when they get around to the elf storyline. The Horned Rat is not represented because Archaon views him as a pretender, a false god unworthy of worship.

I'm actually giving an odd bet that it might even be 120 USD but that's way crazy for a game without a points system that doesn't seem to be doing well at the GW every time I go there. I mean blood bowl is played more frequently whenever I visit on Saturdays. There's a chance it's played when I don't come but it's mostly just 40k now and sometimes blood bowl. I even got to see mordheim get played not long ago.

Yeah I am thinking from the photo its hard to tell scale but it appears to me that its as big if not bigger than the thirster! That would put it in the 120 to 140 price range I would think. And if that is next weeks WD we will soon see. Still buying that!

Having had plenty say on the demise of Warhammer fantasy when AOS was first announced, I've pretty much ignored anything to do with it these past months, having ditched GW a few years back, but looking at this new kit, I cannot, for the love of me, fathom out GW's strategy...

Fantasy, for a long time, was a flagship game for GW and the decision to 'reboot' it with AOS, was obviously a major decision, and yet, the execution of it makes no sense.

Why is the release schedule so poor? Why didn't we see more factions released to boost the game to get people buying and playing?

And why do they think another expensive kit of a Chaos lord on a monster is going to save the day when there are armies crying out for rank and file troops or new releases?

So far we've had golden man, giant golden man, mini-me golden man, and a bunch of Chaos models that could have been released anytime in the past 10 years, so meh were they...

It's almost as if they want the game to fail...

So it seems that archaon is rather further away than we might have thought. Next week is just paints and stuff. https://www.facebook.com/Aussenposten/posts/1157287844288998
the 21st preorder is more Tau. So the earliest Archaon is coming is a preorder on 28th November with a release in December.
Darnok over on warseer mentioned special Knights following Archaon (I am not sure if that means units or heroes) and a tzeentch character. There is also more scenery coming. That takes us up to the end of the year.
We have been told that another release is coming for AOS in January, and Sad Panda said no Dwarves until next year, so maybe January will be their turn.

Some pics-

The paint changes are being discussed in a thread HERE.

Was the tape measure really $30 USD?

Chopxsticks wrote:
Was the tape measure really $30 USD?

Don't be silly.
You don't get a masterpiece of sigmarite engineering like that for any less than 33$

For me, it's a pity that such an excellent and iconic model as the current metal Archaon is going to be replaced by that garbage design. It looks hideous.