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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/19 21:37:16
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Dakka Veteran
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i wanted a vendetta, but did not want to wait or pay for three twin linked lascannons, but I had an big 6 barrel gun in my bits not so I figured why not? It is definitely NOT a Valkyrie, and I will never play in any big tournaments so I hope it is ok.
Call it the vendetta cannon, it's exactly like three twin linked lascannons oddly enough. The thing under the right wing is the power cells for the gun. ( to balance things out)
So, is this too confusing of a conversion?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/08/19 21:38:50
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/19 21:47:43
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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It is confusing from an engineering perspective, even in 40k land
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/19 21:58:42
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Without you saying anything, I would have assumed it was a thunder fire cannon. That said as long once it's pointed out it's clear enough for casual play
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/19 22:03:56
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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It actually looks pretty cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/19 22:07:32
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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what disturbs me only is the asymmetry...flyers tend to be symmetric for aerodynamic reasons...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/19 22:11:21
Subject: Re:Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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It's not confusing from a gaming standpoint, but would be 143% more awesome if it had matching cannons under both wings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/19 22:22:44
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Yeah that is what did it for me, firing the main gun would make you turn left (and probably roll left)
That said, it does look amazing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/19 23:07:03
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Gavin Thorpe
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My first thought would be that it's a Vulture, meaning Punisher Cannons and Strafing Run. It's a Valkyrie chassis packing miniguns and it's a well-known, fairly popular vehicle AFAIK.
Of course if I were told beforehand that it was a Vendetta, I'd be fine with it and no issues are raised. But then again I'm extremely comfortable with outright proxying as long as I'm told.
I would think that the average player would probably be fine as long as you make the effort to remind them that it is in fact packing 3 Lascannons and that the minigun is entirely for show. However it's also something that is definitely worth clearing with an organizer if you plan on entering any planned events, and you should be prepared for the eventuality of somebody insisting that it should be a Vulture.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 00:49:21
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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I think it would look better mounted to the hull in some way, not the wing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 00:53:38
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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I really don't understand this engineering. How such a small machine is supposed to lift a car so heavy?
Seriously, I think the twin linked cannon is supposed to be installed ear the cockpit and not beyond the wing. Is this a recast thunder fire cannon or something?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 01:31:03
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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It's the gatling cannon from the new knight titan kit.
Cool conversion, though it needs to be mounted more along the center line a-la the A-10 Thunderbolt (Commonly called the Warthog).
Google image search it if you're not familiar. It's a beast of a ground attack aircraft.
Take it easy.
-Red__Thirst-
Edit: Forgot to add the knight titan bit. Derp.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/08/20 01:32:43
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 02:00:12
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Dakka Veteran
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Thanks for the input.
1: I don't think firing the gun would cause it to turn simply because energy weapons don't have recoil.
2: I could not fit the gun on the body in a way I thought looked good. I tried.
3: I know it is big, I wanted something large enough to look like it would reduce the troop capacity.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 02:07:38
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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It looks badass, but unbalanced. Now if there was another one on the other side...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 02:15:36
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Ship's Officer
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I would assume as a vulture at first take, due to the Gatling cannon, if you want vendetta, the gun need to be more lascannon like. You should just mount another Gatling cannon on the other wing and count as a vulture.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 02:19:39
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Dakka Veteran
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I'm taking this as it is confusing. I will look at fixing it.
Two lascannons on the nose and two on each wing should work fine. I'll look into bits buying em.
Update, gun came off easy. Ordered some twin linked Razorback lascannons.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/08/20 03:18:48
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 16:47:17
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Leader of the Sept
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kb_lock wrote:Yeah that is what did it for me, firing the main gun would make you turn left (and probably roll left)
That said, it does look amazing 
It's a laser weapon. Why would it make you turn?
Its a bit unconventional, but it all fits together quite well. Once pointed out what it is, I think people would generally be accepting. Maybe make the barrels more obviously lascannons (maybe replace the muzzles with Lascannon muzzles?) and it would be more immediately obvious what it is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 17:12:57
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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Its a neat conversion but does look off since it isn't symmetric. i take it and mount it like the A-10 warthog that was suggested above.
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Refer to Page 5
PLAY LIKE YOU GOT A PAIR!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 22:17:19
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Dakka Veteran
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Well, here is an experiment with making the gun more lascannon like and closer to the center of the craft.
I'll post more when it is done
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 22:39:57
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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Now that's not so bad and I'd be much more comfortable with it. Not only is it more lascannon-like but it really comes across as a jacked up Multilaser
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 23:03:04
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Dakka Veteran
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Here it is painted:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 23:17:15
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
Wales: Where the Men are Men and the sheep are Scared.
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As long as you tell your opponent from the start and dont have another one meant to represent something different it should be fin.e
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 23:24:43
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Dakka Veteran
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That is kinda what I was thinking. There is a guy who just uses a Valkyrie as a vendetta after declaring it at start of game ami I have yet to see or even hear of anyone complain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/20 23:42:28
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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SQRT(-2) wrote:That is kinda what I was thinking. There is a guy who just uses a Valkyrie as a vendetta after declaring it at start of game ami I have yet to see or even hear of anyone complain.
I'm not cool with that. It's not WYSIWYG.
And as this thread has pointed out it;s not like it's hard to approximate a Vendetta. You don't need to buy the Forgeworld conversion parts even. Razorback lascannons work, I used Lascannons from a Centurion kit on mine, and this Gatling Las idea looks good too now that it's been relocated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/21 08:40:55
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Pious Palatine
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Would a lascannon end on each of the barrels help?
I think it looks cool and wouldn't have a problem playing against it.
D
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/21 17:42:55
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Dakka Veteran
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I am going to leave it as it is for now. If I get a lot of flack I'll throw some more conventional TL lascannons on it.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/08/21 17:46:36
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/21 19:52:32
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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I don't think so. Like I said, I'm seeing a comparison to a Multi-laser which itself has a rotary system to prevent overheats. All six lascannons wouldn't be firing at once but instead one after the other in quick succession. It's sound to me, just like a real world Minigun it would help cut down on the degradation of the barrels and lengthen the overall lifespan of the weapon while savagely spiking up the firing rate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/22 15:24:21
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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No no no. It's not wyswyg. 3 weapons should be represented as a 3 weapons.
In case of if your friends agree to play with that model, you don't need forum agreement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/22 21:01:47
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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Freakazoitt wrote:No no no. It's not wyswyg. 3 weapons should be represented as a 3 weapons.
In case of if your friends agree to play with that model, you don't need forum agreement.
Under the guidelines of "Counts As" it could be construed that the barrels become damaged, limiting the firepower produced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/23 03:19:12
Subject: Am I confusing people with this conversion?
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Dakka Veteran
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I have put honest to goodness twin linked lascannons on it. Better safe than sorry.
Thanks for the feed back
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