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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 15:32:26
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Hey everyone. I kinda ask the question as part of a list building thread, but now it's really bugging my mind lol.
How do you think people will react to me proxying 5 broadside out of 6 with 5 crisis suit?
Bonus question: is there something out there better for Broadside proxy?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 15:36:58
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Short term until you get the actual models? Sure.
Long term or at events? No.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 15:38:03
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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A dreadnought.
Not kidding, a broadside is FAR bigger than a crisis. It's bigger than the dreadnought too. A crisis is NOT a good proxy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 15:38:43
Subject: Re:Tau Proxying Broadside
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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To try it out? Dreads of all kinds are probably fair game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 15:50:22
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Confessor Of Sins
WA, USA
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They really aren't that similar in terms of model size. Maybe once to try out the list, but you should get your hands on the real McCoy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 16:30:41
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They arent similar in size, Unless it's the old models thats litterly a Crisis Suit model with metal railguns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 18:38:35
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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For friendly games, sure as long as both players are cool with it. I'm sure most players will understand if you want to try a couple of games out with them before you commit to buying them (especially with a new rumoured codex coming out soon), whether it's in a shop or outside of one.
For tournament play, nope.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 18:39:30
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Fixture of Dakka
Vanished Completely
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As you have one Broadside, keep it on hand in order to check Line of Sight, Cover and any other situation where the larger Model would matter.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/08/26 18:40:39
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 18:44:57
Subject: Re:Tau Proxying Broadside
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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I would be fine with it as long as it stayed as a broadside throughout the game, and didn't magically turn into something else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 19:22:10
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Fireknife Shas'el
Lisbon, Portugal
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Try to use something with the same base, at least (60mm)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 19:24:41
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Regular Dakkanaut
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BoomWolf wrote:A dreadnought.
Not kidding, a broadside is FAR bigger than a crisis. It's bigger than the dreadnought too. A crisis is NOT a good proxy.
This isn't exactly true , since the old ones are still legal , and are crisis suits with extra bits on them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 19:38:35
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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kambien wrote: BoomWolf wrote:A dreadnought.
Not kidding, a broadside is FAR bigger than a crisis. It's bigger than the dreadnought too. A crisis is NOT a good proxy.
This isn't exactly true , since the old ones are still legal , and are crisis suits with extra bits on them
True, and I even own a pair.
But doesn't make it right to make NEW ones. its just a case of "that model isn't right, but we won't invalidate your old models because that's a jerk move"
I wouldn't dare to run my old broadsides as anything but HRR, and even then-I'd rebase them to 60mm if they ever will see serous play (maybe after update I hope?), making them stand taller.
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can neither confirm nor deny I lost track of what I've got right now. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 19:43:42
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Yay for temporary proxies!
If you don't wanna drop the quid then I'd kitbash some.
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Gets along better with animals... Go figure. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 19:49:50
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
England
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Sounds like it'll be fine to just try some, but I wouldn't recommend doing it long-term.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 20:19:35
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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The Hammer of Witches
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The fact that broadsides are on 60mm bases and significantly larger means that to be fair, you should at least by trying to use a similar base size. Crisis suits are quite a bit smaller in that regard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 20:38:52
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Krazed Killa Kan
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I started playing in 6th edition (after the new broadsides came out) and my Broadsides are some of the older "upgraded" crisis suits I bought from Ebay and added 3rd party missile systems magnetized to the shoulders. Nobody has complained about them and some even like seeing the older shoulder mounted style weapons over the hand held ones of the newer kit.
Now in the case of actually proxying then its usually fine in a casual game (as long as your opponent is cool with it) but tournaments don't allow proxies typically.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 20:44:57
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Prescient Cryptek of Eternity
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I think it would be most 'fair' to use something roughly the size and shape of a currently available Broadside. Something like a Space Marine Dreadnought should work fine.
Ultimately, you need to ask your opponent.
As to what you actually end up with, it sort of depends. The older Broadside kit, which is no longer for sale from GW, but tends to be pretty available on eBay, was literally just a normal Crisis Suit with metal feet, arms and shoulder mounted railguns. If I recall correctly (FW rules being ignored), you could only equip it with the railguns and a smart missile system. If that's what you want to field, feel free to use the older model. Nobody can complain as it's an official model, assembled in the intended fashion. High Yield Missile Pods are only available on the newer kit. Some opponents may have a problem with you using the older, smaller model and converting it with the newer weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 20:48:07
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
Oklahoma
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you could use a kleenex box
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I aren't think that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/26 23:32:04
Subject: Re:Tau Proxying Broadside
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Hellish Haemonculus
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The old broadsides, the ones I got accustomed to, we're just crisis suits with a little bit of extra metal gubbins on them. No problem with it. If you have the correct loadout, no problem even in a tournament, as far as I'm concerned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/27 09:15:45
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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or you could see if you can get the broadside conversion kit on eBay
its official GW so it can be used anywhere
oh it fits on a crysis suit
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/27 12:13:06
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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Well I am happy I started that thread haha. I didn't know that Broadside use to be Crisis size. But yeah, my plan was to proxy for a couple game, until I put my hand on some cheap Broadside on ebay (Cuz I ain't paying 60$ a pop for broadside if I need 5)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/27 12:13:25
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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I would say no to this, if you want to try before you buy fair enough but I dislike people proxying for stronger models. Just run your crisis suits as crisis suits and put up with maybe having a less optimised list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/27 12:28:16
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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My friend has proxied a Crisis as a Broadside with my permission, inside the GW store in Manchester. Our Derby one doesn't allow it.
Just make sure to extend the Crisis models base. The Broadside base is eqaul to that of a Dreadnought.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/27 17:09:47
Subject: Tau Proxying Broadside
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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Placing the 40mm base on top of a 60mm one is the easiest way to accomplish this rebase, and gain some height.
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can neither confirm nor deny I lost track of what I've got right now. |
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