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 krazynadechukr wrote:
Take it with a grain of salt, my local GW manager said apparently the (28mm scale of course) Horus Heresy Starter Set will have "2 sides" in the box, equipped the same, no specific legions either (generic), there is 20 preheresy marines, 5 preheresy termies, 1 preheresy dread, 1 praetor (for each side, although you don't have to make 2 sides! (since they are the same/generic minis!), and a booklet entitled "Age of Darkness," plus a rule book, dice, templates, and some sort of dataslates or cards for the models. This jives with earlier rumors seen here and else where!

Probably because that's where the redshirt got the info!

I fear the wallet impact on this one. In time for Christmas though...had better get dropping hints to loved ones.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:
Take it with a grain of salt, my local GW manager said apparently the (28mm scale of course) Horus Heresy Starter Set will have "2 sides" in the box, equipped the same, no specific legions either (generic), there is 20 preheresy marines, 5 preheresy termies, 1 preheresy dread, 1 praetor (for each side, although you don't have to make 2 sides! (since they are the same/generic minis!), and a booklet entitled "Age of Darkness," plus a rule book, dice, templates, and some sort of dataslates or cards for the models. This jives with earlier rumors seen here and else where!

Probably because that's where the redshirt got the info!

Then we're back where we started?

Everything feels so circular...

 kronk wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 kronk wrote:
The Emperor's Children were pretty "far out there" during the early stages of the Heresy.

Their fleet travelled far from Terra to enforce compliance?

Sonic Implants

Beginning the Slaanesh worship

Dicking around with the gene seed

Fulgrim briefly being possessed

You know, "out there".

It was a joke. I probably should have used an emoticon.

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I fear the wallet impact on this one. In time for Christmas though...had better get dropping hints to loved ones.

True, that may be my plan as well... Depends on the price, really. On one hand, I love HH stuff, the small amount I do have I really enjoyed working on, and the models will be fantastic, that's pretty much a given. On the other, I'm not sure I have it in my to paint a full army these days, lovely HH plastics or not... A 'Shattered Legions' force would get around that somewhat by giving me 3-4 different schemes to incorporate and lots of conversion potential, or I could just take the painter-only route and just paint them up however I feel like rather than building an army...

Need to see the contents, then I can decide/start badgering/bribing/blackmailing family members

 warboss wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 kronk wrote:
The Emperor's Children were pretty "far out there" during the early stages of the Heresy.

Their fleet travelled far from Terra to enforce compliance?

Sonic Implants

Beginning the Slaanesh worship

Dicking around with the gene seed

Fulgrim briefly being possessed

You know, "out there".

It was a joke. I probably should have used an emoticon.

<---- Failed his Sense Motive check.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:
Take it with a grain of salt, my local GW manager said apparently the (28mm scale of course) Horus Heresy Starter Set will have "2 sides" in the box, equipped the same, no specific legions either (generic), there is 20 preheresy marines, 5 preheresy termies, 1 preheresy dread, 1 praetor (for each side, although you don't have to make 2 sides! (since they are the same/generic minis!), and a booklet entitled "Age of Darkness," plus a rule book, dice, templates, and some sort of dataslates or cards for the models. This jives with earlier rumors seen here and else where!

Probably because that's where the redshirt got the info!

Well, he is more than a red shirt. And he has verified several rumors before they actually were leaked, to me and others at our GW store. I consider him legit. My conversation with him was "I want to make a 30k Raven Guard army, and it is going to be expensive." That is where he said, looking left, then right, don't order FW, wait until mid November...." and the rest I paraphrased a few entries back....


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 zedmeister wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:
Take it with a grain of salt, my local GW manager said apparently the (28mm scale of course) Horus Heresy Starter Set will have "2 sides" in the box, equipped the same, no specific legions either (generic), there is 20 preheresy marines, 5 preheresy termies, 1 preheresy dread, 1 praetor (for each side, although you don't have to make 2 sides! (since they are the same/generic minis!), and a booklet entitled "Age of Darkness," plus a rule book, dice, templates, and some sort of dataslates or cards for the models. This jives with earlier rumors seen here and else where!

Probably because that's where the redshirt got the info!

Then we're back where we started?

Everything feels so circular...

Like a blast template right on target!

 Paradigm wrote:

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
I fear the wallet impact on this one. In time for Christmas though...had better get dropping hints to loved ones.

On the other, I'm not sure I have it in my to paint a full army these days, lovely HH plastics or not... A 'Shattered Legions' force would get around that somewhat by giving me 3-4 different schemes to incorporate and lots of conversion potential, or I could just take the painter-only route and just paint them up however I feel like rather than building an army...

Need to see the contents, then I can decide/start badgering/bribing/blackmailing family members

The rate at which you paint you would have a sizeable army in a matter of months. If it is very expensive maybe cash requests are the way to go.

I assume this will be a standard, on the shelf all of the time release. Have there been any rumours of it potentially being a limited print release?

Really looking forward to this, if the rumours are anywhere close to acurate regardign contents then this will nicely fill out most of a 2000 point Salamanders list alongside Vulkan and the Firedrakes I already have.

Calth? Does that mean more Ultramarines? Pass.

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Calth? Does that mean more Ultramarines? Pass.

The figures appear to be generic, so paint them what ever shade of Space Marine floats your boat!

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Calth? Does that mean more Ultramarines? Pass.

Except it doesn't look like there's anything UM on the models (based on the sprues we've seen). I'm betting they'll just be some transfers in the box, even GW won't be stupid enough to cut out 16/18ths of the market for the set by limiting the box.

 Paradigm wrote:
So in total that's 40 Marines, 10 Termies, 2 Dreads and 2 Praetors?

Dark Vengeance had 49 figs including a dread and three bikes. AoS has 47 figs including a couple of dread sized figs, so 54 figs including two dreads seems possible. If they wanted a lower price point, say under $100, 28 figs would also work (20 preheresy marines, 5 preheresy termies, 1 preheresy dread, 1 praetor (for each side, so 2).

T

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Calth? Does that mean more Ultramarines? Pass.

NO, the minis are generic!

timd wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
So in total that's 40 Marines, 10 Termies, 2 Dreads and 2 Praetors?

Dark Vengeance had 49 figs including a dread and three bikes. AoS has 47 figs including a couple of dread sized figs, so 54 figs including two dreads seems possible. If they wanted a lower price point, say under $100, 28 figs would also work (20 preheresy marines, 5 preheresy termies, 1 preheresy dread, 1 praetor (for each side, so 2).

T

Yeah, it's definitely within the realms of possibility. It comes down to whether GW prices it like that, though, or whether because the minis are proper, multi-pose ones they're going to charge a load more.

BTW, my source "confirmed" it will be $149.99 USD (he is so certain he said if it is more, he will pay the difference for me. I have witnesses to his saying that, and I am holding him to it.)

So £100... hmm, that's more than I was hoping, but possibly still doable...

looks like some GW stores are prepping with facebook sites

https://www.facebook.com/events/1643968485858366/

https://www.facebook.com/GWDudley

even Gav!

https://www.facebook.com/Gav-Thorpe-24145188387/

Release the Hype Train!

 Paradigm wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I love MkIV and I think it looks awesome for the likes of Emperor's Children, Ultramarines, Blood Angels or Alpha Legion, but I can't see it looking too fitting for the more 'down to earth' legions like Imperial Fists, World Eaters, Death Guard or Iron Hands.

Well, speak for yourself. Personally I think Mk.4 is a simple, clean look for a Legion like the XIIth that tends to be more utilitarian. It was this piece of art from Betrayal that inspired my WE army.



I think the strength of the Mk.4 is that its clean lines can lend itself to either simple or more ornate looks and schemes. Of course, what that pic is missing -- and what FW is missing -- is a proper Sarum-pattern helmet (see Kharn).

And really, having an entire Forge World in their back pocket means there's little reason why the World Eaters would have to be stuck with older marks.

Is there any concrete information if this is going to be a one shot release?

 gorgon wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I love MkIV and I think it looks awesome for the likes of Emperor's Children, Ultramarines, Blood Angels or Alpha Legion, but I can't see it looking too fitting for the more 'down to earth' legions like Imperial Fists, World Eaters, Death Guard or Iron Hands.

Well, speak for yourself. Personally I think Mk.4 is a simple, clean look for a Legion like the XIIth that tends to be more utilitarian. It was this piece of art from Betrayal that inspired my WE army.

Spoiler:

I think the strength of the Mk.4 is that its clean lines can lend itself to either simple or more ornate looks and schemes. Of course, what that pic is missing -- and what FW is missing -- is a proper Sarum-pattern helmet (see Kharn).

And really, having an entire Forge World in their back pocket means there's little reason why the World Eaters would have to be stuck with older marks.

I know I'll be eagerly using it to finish off my Iron Warriors Chaos Space Marine infantry!

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
Is there any concrete information if this is going to be a one shot release?

From the information available, there might be expansions to this. The reason being, Xenos from the Crusade/pre heresy were mentioned. Oh, and where money can be made, GW is somewhere close by, so yes, expect Warhammer 30k boxes. Also, from what I have heard, 30k is geared for the more adult clientel....

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
Is there any concrete information if this is going to be a one shot release?

From the information available, there might be expansions to this. The reason being, Xenos from the Crusade/pre heresy were mentioned. Oh, and where money can be made, GW is somewhere close by, so yes, expect Warhammer 30k boxes. Also, from what I have heard, 30k is geared for the more adult clientel....

Interesting... well, even if there were Heresy-era Xenos I wouldn't imagine Necrons would be part of them. Though, you never know.

Hey, maybe 30k is going to become their "serious mode" game rules and be more designed for what tourney players want. A man can dream, right?

If it's 100 quid and contains 20/5/1 then I'll be definitely buying two and it gives me spare money to buy a load of other bits.

rtb02 wrote:
If it's 100 quid and contains 20/5/1 then I'll be definitely buying two and it gives me spare money to buy a load of other bits.

Helz yeah! The FW equivalent is $595 usd (389 GBP) for all those minis! Not to mention what the costs of the FW books are too! I might buy 3!

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
Is there any concrete information if this is going to be a one shot release?

Browse throught these posts, skip the Tau ones, and you have a good view of what is going to come in 14 days.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/listByUser/0/92272/6.page

He was always spot on, including several topics others were not yet aware of. TLDR A boardgame based on a Calth-related HH incident.

I honestly can't wait for this. I'm eager to see what kind of side game they make and hope it's different enough from current 40k/heresy rules to feel like a unique game/approach to the Warhammer universe.

On top of that, it'll be great to have easy access to proper 'Chaos' pattern armor without all the ornate/chaosy stuff going on so I can use these guys for the standard troopers and use the DV chaos stuff as chosen and special characters and the like.

Now if only Forgeworld would get around to releasing the Thousand Sons so I can go sufficiently broke, that would be great.

Will this be limited?

I love the look of it.

Space Hulk was limited. The 2009 edition sold out pretty fast.

 krazynadechukr wrote:

rtb02 wrote:
If it's 100 quid and contains 20/5/1 then I'll be definitely buying two and it gives me spare money to buy a load of other bits.

Helz yeah! The FW equivalent is $595 usd (389 GBP) for all those minis! Not to mention what the costs of the FW books are too! I might buy 3!

Bear in mind the rumour (both the original and the poster from the last page quoting a GW manager) said it was 20/5/1/1 per side, not overall. Frankly for £100 I wouldn't expect anything less if they want this to be considered good value, although the recent box sets have proven that GW have now realised that bundling 2-3 overpriced kits now means you can go 'look, discount!' and still have the set be poor value.