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Warhams-77 wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
Is there any concrete information if this is going to be a one shot release?

Browse throught these posts, skip the Tau ones, and you have a good view of what is going to come in 14 days.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/listByUser/0/92272/6.page

He was always spot on, including several topics others were not yet aware of. TLDR A boardgame based on a Calth-related HH incident.

Ah, so not a 30k-esque game then. But, $150 for those models is actually quite a good price, depending on what is on the sprues. It might be worthwhile for someone looking to start a SM or CSM army in that style.

From my source: This is a big release. GW reps are getting two days of training on the product line and rules, as they did with Age of Sigmar.

My opinion: This implies it will be the launch of a whole separate product line, and not just an accessory to 40k.

If this is all correct, and the box set comes with a ton of generic 30K marines, I can easily see a lot of 40K players getting one or more boxes, and then flocking to Forge World to immediately buy a few hundred bucks worth of Legion-specific shoulderpads, icons, maybe a tank, etc. I suspect that if everything goes right, this is going to make GW a TON of money. Now they just have to have the smarts to either a) not make it limited edition or b) if it IS limited, then releasing the plastic contents in their own boxes quickly afterward.

This will sell, no matter what the bitter cynics say.

I'm pretty sure nobody said it wouldn't?

Just in case.

Doesn't sound like a board game...

 Paradigm wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:

rtb02 wrote:
If it's 100 quid and contains 20/5/1 then I'll be definitely buying two and it gives me spare money to buy a load of other bits.

Helz yeah! The FW equivalent is $595 usd (389 GBP) for all those minis! Not to mention what the costs of the FW books are too! I might buy 3!

Bear in mind the rumour (both the original and the poster from the last page quoting a GW manager) said it was 20/5/1/1 per side, not overall. Frankly for £100 I wouldn't expect anything less if they want this to be considered good value, although the recent box sets have proven that GW have now realised that bundling 2-3 overpriced kits now means you can go 'look, discount!' and still have the set be poor value.

I don't believe for 100 quid we'll get 40/10/2/2. If it was a normal box,possibly but these are models currently only available via fw and resin. Personally 100 quid for 20/5/1/2 plus board (speculation) is immense. Currently it'd cost a fortune via fw. Additionally the board sections if they exist could be used for zone mortalis.


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 Paradigm wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:

rtb02 wrote:
If it's 100 quid and contains 20/5/1 then I'll be definitely buying two and it gives me spare money to buy a load of other bits.

Helz yeah! The FW equivalent is $595 usd (389 GBP) for all those minis! Not to mention what the costs of the FW books are too! I might buy 3!

Bear in mind the rumour (both the original and the poster from the last page quoting a GW manager) said it was 20/5/1/1 per side, not overall. Frankly for £100 I wouldn't expect anything less if they want this to be considered good value, although the recent box sets have proven that GW have now realised that bundling 2-3 overpriced kits now means you can go 'look, discount!' and still have the set be poor value.

I don't believe for 100 quid we'll get 40/10/2/2. If it was a normal box,possibly but these are models currently only available via fw and resin. Personally 100 quid for 20/5/1/2 plus board (speculation) is immense. Currently it'd cost a fortune via fw. Additionally the board sections if they exist could be used for zone mortalis.

rtb02 wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:

rtb02 wrote:
If it's 100 quid and contains 20/5/1 then I'll be definitely buying two and it gives me spare money to buy a load of other bits.

Helz yeah! The FW equivalent is $595 usd (389 GBP) for all those minis! Not to mention what the costs of the FW books are too! I might buy 3!

Bear in mind the rumour (both the original and the poster from the last page quoting a GW manager) said it was 20/5/1/1 per side, not overall. Frankly for £100 I wouldn't expect anything less if they want this to be considered good value, although the recent box sets have proven that GW have now realised that bundling 2-3 overpriced kits now means you can go 'look, discount!' and still have the set be poor value.

I don't believe for 100 quid we'll get 40/10/2/2. If it was a normal box,possibly but these are models currently only available via fw and resin. Personally 100 quid for 20/5/1/2 plus board (speculation) is immense. Currently it'd cost a fortune via fw. Additionally the board sections if they exist could be used for zone mortalis.

I could believe it, but in that case we're probably talking no options for weapons or upgrades. Just straight, put together plastic sprues. Which is fine, as conversions are a thing.

40/10/2/2 for $150/‎£100 seems like 'too good a deal'.

20/5/1/1 seem more along the lines of what GW would offer us.

Still, if that's just one side, well, it is hard to sell half a game to at least some segment of your target market?

I just want to see pictures now. Really interested in the dreads. If they have the same range of poses as the fw ones I'll be drooling with anticipation.

I'd think it's 40/10/2/2

As others have said when they've converted other FW stuff over there has been a huge price reduction. This being a starter set, there'll be yet more reduction.


Just my thoughts.

 Alpharius wrote:

Still, if that's just one side, well, it is hard to sell half a game to at least some segment of your target market?

...This is GW. Hard selling a game to a portion of their market is their stale bread and rancid butter.

 Alpharius wrote:
40/10/2/2 for $150/‎£100 seems like 'too good a deal'.

20/5/1/1 seem more along the lines of what GW would offer us.

Still, if that's just one side, well, it is hard to sell half a game to at least some segment of your target market?

I am in the same camp as Alpharius. Consider Age Of Stinkmore's releases. They have been some of the most expensive models GW has released. Their pricing madness will continue to rise. And with these models being multipart kits, not the usual starter models, I am sure that's how GW will "justify" the price. Look at the new Raven Guard box. It's supposed to be the same price, and what do you get? 11 infantry models and 1 landspeeder. There is no way it will be 40/10/2/2. I would love to be wrong but I don't think it will turn out that way.

 Alpharius wrote:
40/10/2/2 for $150/‎£100 seems like 'too good a deal'.

20/5/1/1 seem more along the lines of what GW would offer us.

I'd be shocked if it was the former. And where was that rumor from, BOLS? Everyone should probably get ready for a much lower miniature count in the box.

I think we can expect 30K plastic products to be premium-priced, since the resin pricing is what it is, and demand looks to be high.

Lords of Wargaming reporting 30 MkIV marines 5 Cataphractii 1 Contemptor 1 Praetor 1 Chaplain as the contents.

 Eldarain wrote:
Lords of Wargaming reporting 30 MkIV marines 5 Cataphractii 1 Contemptor 1 Praetor 1 Chaplain as the contents.

They've been pretty accurate with rumours:

Lords of Wargaming - Total rumors: (48 TRUE) / (3 FALSE) / (2 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)

Interesting about the Chaplain? Not the most popular Centurion Consul choice, at least for me. Though, I suppose it is the Word Bearers...

PENDING Horus Heresy Rumors - Oct 2015

I guess anyone can email in as an “anonymous source” and be completely wrong about stuff. Here is the low down:
- It is a Boxed game with tiles. (Yes it’s just a box game)
- NO -------- XENOS! This is about the galactic civil war of man. That means no bs Eldar, Tau, Orks,
Necrons, etc. If you hear anyone say there will be rules for Xenos, they are lying to you and they’re a major bs artist. This isn’t 40k, this is 30k and we don’t give a gak what color your Eldar dress is.
- THIS IS NOT A LIMITED RELEASE – this is a boxed game and the models maybe used for Forge World’s Age of Darkness. If you don’t own their books you are missing out.
- Follow up to the last point, BUY THE FORGE WORLD BOOKS THEY ARE OUTSTANDING AND WORTH EVERY DIME OR PENCE (for my English friends).
- The sales of the box will dictate what will be released next, how it will be released and when it will be released. ONCE AGIN, IF THESE SITES SAY THEY KNOW WHAT IS COMING OUT, THEY’RE LYING.
Contents of the Box:
30x Tactical marines MK IV ONLY!
5x Catapharctii Terminators
1x Contemptor with Lascannon and CCW (FW Contemptor arms are interchangeable with the new plastics)
1x Praetor
1x Chaplain
The game box will be the only way to get the models for the initial release. The more you buy the faster the minis will come out in squad form.
PS. If I seem salty, I am. I’m tired of these sites playing with your hobby emotions and it pisses me off!
Don’t hate the media, become the media!

Urgh, I'm pretty darn interested in getting this and starting some Space Marines... but I dunno if I can start another army right now...

Bleh.

It's hard to argue that the AoS starter box was anything but a great deal. I hope the same applies to Betrayal at Calth.

God, the hype is real for me. I really, really hope GW doesn't muck this up.

Pretre posted it already - Lords of War Gaming - screenshot via B&C



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 TheCustomLime wrote:
God, the hype is real for me. I really, really hope GW doesn't muck this up.

Feeling the same way. I'm trying to not to get excited, but the little child in me is getting all giddy...
Need to keep hold of that cynicism. This is GW after all. Though if Forgeworld have had control of the production of this... No, keep to being a cynic!

I don't know, I find it pretty hard to believe they would give us a fully pose-able Contemptor that is also compatible with the FW resin one.

But still, I am excited to see this. I hope it's not limited release as I probably won't be home when it comes out.

Great content

 SickSix wrote:
I don't know, I find it pretty hard to believe they would give us a fully pose-able Contemptor that is also compatible with the FW resin one.

But still, I am excited to see this. I hope it's not limited release as I probably won't be home when it comes out.

Yeah. If this was LE you could refresh the page a second after pre-orders go live and it would be sold out. Plastic Heresy Marines are a god send to 30k players. Tactical squads are really expensive now. They go for like $90 for 10 guys and you don't just need 10 guys.

Hmmmm...so, better than the 20/5/1/1, not as good as the 40/10/2/2 rumors.

So, it's probably just about right.

Soooo, three boxes, that's 90 marines, 15 Cataphracts, etc...

 zedmeister wrote:
Not the most popular Centurion Consul choice, at least for me.

Assuming those even exist in GW's take on the HH.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Not the most popular Centurion Consul choice, at least for me.

Assuming those even exist in GW's take on the HH.

They may as well put packing peanuts for all that I care of the rest of the box's contents or what the Citadel design team is doing.

Right good point, this set will hopefully be fodder for existing 30k players using FW's beautiful books and toys as much as it will be whatever board game or somesuch as rumored. Oh man, I am really hoping this is not another Execution Force.

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
Not the most popular Centurion Consul choice, at least for me.

Assuming those even exist in GW's take on the HH.

They may as well put packing peanuts for all that I care of the rest of the box's contents or what the Citadel design team is doing.

Er...OK?

Just out of curiosity then - why are you posting in this thread?