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 namiel wrote:

Sad Panda wrote:

 Vash108 wrote:
I wonder if this will lead into a 30k game that will use more of an AoS rule system?

There is no separate 30K wargame. There is no third GW main game.

I think people still underestimate how much GW is into AoS. AoS is going to be big - very big - for christmas. And early 2016. AoS is still the main show.

I think gw still underestimates how little a VAST majority of us care...

They won't have to estimate anything come February as they'll have the numbers by then and will have to post them for us soon after. I doubt they'll break up the sales between the various lines (they've never done that in the past) but it would be nice to see how AOS fares against the shrinking 40k fanbase.

@Sad Panda: I'm not sure what you mean above. Are you pointing out that thinking of HH/30k as a third keystone system to replace LOTR is incorrect? Or that the HH/30k game is just a one off board game like that assassin thing and not a new whole line of products?

 krazynadechukr wrote:
box cover (?)

http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Horus-Heresy2.jpg

I was going to guess cover art for the new BFG game....

T

Sad Panda wrote:

 Vash108 wrote:
I wonder if this will lead into a 30k game that will use more of an AoS rule system?

There is no separate 30K wargame. There is no third GW main game.

I think people still underestimate how much GW is into AoS. AoS is going to be big - very big - for christmas. And early 2016. AoS is still the main show.

The proof will be in the pudding, so to speak. I'll bet that HH boxed set + Tau 4 weeks will exceed all the AoS sales for the half year. Not that we'll ever know, since it isn't broken down by GW, and I am glad that GW is willing to stand by its new product. No matter how much new cover art they rebox, I'm still not buying Seraphon, though

timd wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:
box cover (?)

http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Horus-Heresy2.jpg

I was going to guess cover art for the new BFG game....

T

Oh, if only...

 Talys wrote:

Sad Panda wrote:

 Vash108 wrote:
I wonder if this will lead into a 30k game that will use more of an AoS rule system?

There is no separate 30K wargame. There is no third GW main game.

I think people still underestimate how much GW is into AoS. AoS is going to be big - very big - for christmas. And early 2016. AoS is still the main show.

The proof will be in the pudding, so to speak. I'll bet that HH boxed set + Tau 4 weeks will exceed all the AoS sales for the half year. Not that we'll ever know, since it isn't broken down by GW, and I am glad that GW is willing to stand by its new product. No matter how much new cover art they rebox, I'm still not buying Seraphon, though

Indeed - we'll definitely need to wait for the full year report. And even then, I can easily see an early 2016 CSM release boosting up sales just enough...

Just like it happened with WHFB

timd wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:
box cover (?)

http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Horus-Heresy2.jpg

I was going to guess cover art for the new BFG game....

T

I got into the Hobby after BFG was gone, I keep hearing so much about it. I really want to try it now.

Quick photoshopping of the warped picture:

Hopefully they will not be legion specific so that we can use them for any army. If they come with legion markings ill be less excited

 namiel wrote:
Hopefully they will not be legion specific so that we can use them for any army. If they come with legion markings ill be less excited

No markings.

Must say, it's hard to understand why GW would accept such gakky pics as their customers' first glimpse of their new products. Then again, what do I know? If I was in charge of GW, I wouldn't totally eclipse AoS by releasing plastic HH, either. I honestly suspect the two issues are related: maybe GW believes that communicating with customers in the long term undermines their releases; like, people won't buy any AoS if they know they need to save pennies for HH.

@namiel - If the miniatures are Legion-specific, I will be buying 0 rather than 2 or 3.

@jojo_monkey_boyMade in ca - thanks I will add it to the OP

 Vash108 wrote:

timd wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:
box cover (?)

http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Horus-Heresy2.jpg

I was going to guess cover art for the new BFG game....

T

I got into the Hobby after BFG was gone, I keep hearing so much about it. I really want to try it now.

You should probably check out the Dropfleet Commander, aka BFG version 2, Kickstarter that starts in a couple of days...

I don't get the price issues.
£90 is a steal for it.

Just the TAC marines alone would run you £144 plus weapons.
Yes there is mono pose stuff, but still a great deal.
I'll be picking up 2-3 sets I think to expand what I have.
The contemptor looks easy enough to chop and re-pose.

 Mymearan wrote:

 Vash108 wrote:

timd wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:
box cover (?)

http://www.beastsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Horus-Heresy2.jpg

I was going to guess cover art for the new BFG game....

T

I got into the Hobby after BFG was gone, I keep hearing so much about it. I really want to try it now.

You should probably check out the Dropfleet Commander, aka BFG version 2, Kickstarter that starts in a couple of days...

But but... there are no Battle Barges :(

I'm tempted I must admit.

Merely tempted? Consider yourself lucky!

Manchu wrote:
Merely tempted? Consider yourself lucky!

Yeah, I'm in full on negotiations with my wife about this already. I've been trying to tell her that I'm being good on cutting back on hobby spending, but this is so very, very good.

Need to see some clearer pics first, odds on I might go down to the local GW on the 7th.. if I like what I see I'll order a copy or two.

I've went from definitely ordering two or three to may or may not get one. Its just very dull

 Polonius wrote:

Manchu wrote:
Merely tempted? Consider yourself lucky!

Yeah, I'm in full on negotiations with my wife about this already. I've been trying to tell her that I'm being good on cutting back on hobby spending, but this is so very, very good.

I am poised to take unilateral action. Damn the torpedoes!

Manchu wrote:
Merely tempted? Consider yourself lucky!

Indeed. I'm getting two. 60 Tacticals, 10 Terminators, 2 Contemptors and a couple of Praetors for $300? It nearly costs that much to get 30 tacticals from FW.

 Motograter wrote:
Its just very dull

I think there are three issues at play: First, a plastic HH release is an event of near-mythical for a lot of us; we have to understand that whatever GW does is not going to measure up to so many years of dreaming. Second, no matter how you look at it, this is a SM release and that ground is well-trodden to say the least. Third, all we have right now is a lame teaser and some incredibly bad photos. Once we have actual professional photos of this stuff, including 360 degree spin photos, I think it will be a lot more exciting!

Manchu wrote:

 Polonius wrote:

Manchu wrote:
Merely tempted? Consider yourself lucky!

Yeah, I'm in full on negotiations with my wife about this already. I've been trying to tell her that I'm being good on cutting back on hobby spending, but this is so very, very good.

I am poised to take unilateral action. Damn the torpedoes!

Oh you poor, poor man.

RIP Manchu.

I'm not interested but I'm happy for those who want it. The 3rd box I won't be buying from GW, 30k is just not interesting to me sorry especially as its just marines vs marines

I can only hope we get Sisters or more Aliens eventually. If not ill just be spending elsewhere.

Can't wait for FLG to start allowing preorders. I'll get at least one.

I'll get one, and if it's not a limited thing I'll probably get another at a later date.

I'm just glad people want to buy it, just better chances they'll come out with an MKIII box so I can start my Iron Hands without messing with too much resin.

Manchu wrote:

 Motograter wrote:
Its just very dull

I think there are three issues at play: First, a plastic HH release is an event of near-mythical for a lot of us; we have to understand that whatever GW does is not going to measure up to so many years of dreaming. Second, no matter how you look at it, this is a SM release and that ground is well-trodden to say the least. Third, all we have right now is a lame teaser and some incredibly bad photos. Once we have actual professional photos of this stuff, including 360 degree spin photos, I think it will be a lot more exciting!

I do wonder if the boat has sailed though, and some time ago.

I had years of creating my own Pre-Heresy stuff (when the TCG and first books came out), then converting FW semi-PH stuff (the mkIV armour) etc. That was what, probably getting on for 10 years ago now (?!) Arguably even the FW releases were late in the context of how long the fluff had been about, the art book etc. And now these plastic minis have arrived, finally.

If this had come out in the late 00's? I would have crawled a mile through broken glass to get my hands on it. But now I've made the army, read the Heresy books until they started to turn into the literary equivalent of Lost, played with them through several editions of 40k (until 6th edition killed the game for me), and sold the lot of it. We're talking about a quite extended period of time if you can fall in love with something, play it to death, then eventually move on to something else (as most people do ).

What was also noticeable for me was how much less I got for my Pre-Heresy stuff (sold within the last year) when compared to what I got 3-4 years ago for a previous force. So, I don't think I can be the only one who thinks the same as this..

Great that GW are doing something 'new', but boy have they been slow to cotton on to it.

 Vash108 wrote:
I wonder if this will lead into a 30k game that will use more of an AoS rule system?

You forget to add this pic to the end of your post Vash108..

 Jackal wrote:
I don't get the price issues.
£90 is a steal for it.

Just the TAC marines alone would run you £144 plus weapons.

Ah yes... the fallacy that what we're currently paying for GW figure boxes (such as terminators etc) is normal price, so these starter sets must be a bargain. Same with the AoS box set.

:-(

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 Jackal wrote:
I don't get the price issues.
£90 is a steal for it.

Just the TAC marines alone would run you £144 plus weapons.

Ah yes... the fallacy that what we're currently paying for GW figure boxes (such as terminators etc) is normal price, so these starter sets must be a bargain. Same with the AoS box set.

:-(

If you want 30 Mk.4 Tactical marines right now it costs $250. It is a damn good bargain..

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 Jackal wrote:
I don't get the price issues.
£90 is a steal for it.

Just the TAC marines alone would run you £144 plus weapons.

Ah yes... the fallacy that what we're currently paying for GW figure boxes (such as terminators etc) is normal price, so these starter sets must be a bargain. Same with the AoS box set.

:-(

It may not be 'normal' as in 'what you'd pay for an equivalent amount of plastic in other shapes', but when these are PA and TDA Marines and GW are the only company that makes completely equivalent PA and TDA Marines, then the comparison has validity. If you want MkIV Marines, your options are either this for £90 or several hundred quid from Forge World. Thus, this is inherently better value than the only alternative.

I'm not trying to defend the GW idea of bargains (look up my previous post a page or so back on the new RG/Tau box sets) but there is a lot in this set for the money, and it's a price I and many others are happy to pay.