Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics! pp 39-41

Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:

No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.

If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

**Azreal13**

shade1313 wrote:
Nocturnus wrote:
shade1313 wrote:
gorgon wrote:

Like I said, I'm hoping for a plastic Spartan.

To me, that doesn't seem like an outlandish possibility, given GW's love of bigger kits and the fact that both 30K and 40K players could use them in their armies.

My pipe dreams for future releases are the Spartan, and the Storm Eagle. Or an SE/Fire Raptor combo kit.

Lot of other stuff I could add, but those are the big bits of wishful thinking for me.

I wouldn't hold your breath, especially for a plastic Spartan. As was mentioned, FW just redid the track sections.

Yes, thank you, I know. Part of why I said "pipe dreams".

Then again, what sort of reaction would you have got if you'd come on here 5 years ago claiming there'd be rules and models for Primarchs and that GW proper would be making pastic Heresy compatible miniatures?

I wouldn't take anything for granted, after all, which one of the old guard was it that said that if we were to see the Heresy on the tabletop it would be a sign GW were circling the drain?

**Gimgamgoo**

Well... GW are going to have a bumper couple of financial reports after releasing Primarchs (even if it is through FW), HH space marines vs more space marines (SM are always their best seller) and they've brought Space Marines (of a kind) as the main Fantasy Army. Win win situation for the financials I guess. All those hoping to see GW go down will have to wait a fair bit longer.

I'm looking forward to seeing some clear pics of the HH box set and hoping it will bring some new blood to mini gaming in my school if it has a decent price.

**casvalremdeikun**

Contemptor Dreadnought confirmed. 100% going to buy.

**The_Stormrider**

Quite exciting! Just the thing to round out my XIII legion force.

**Imateria**

Have we seen any pics of the Chaplin yet? As far as I know there are no specific Chaplins in 30K and you have to take a Legion Centurion with the Chaplin consul upgrade, since I would rather run him as a Champion or Forge Lord I'm wondering how much conversion work will be needed.

**angelofvengeance**

Imateria wrote:
Have we seen any pics of the Chaplin yet? As far as I know there are no specific Chaplins in 30K and you have to take a Legion Centurion with the Chaplin consul upgrade, since I would rather run him as a Champion or Forge Lord I'm wondering how much conversion work will be needed.

Yes- the sprue pics we had ages ago. See the OP and you should see the Terminator character (who we now know to belong to the XIII Legion- The Ultramarines) next to the Chaplain character of the XVII Legion.

**krazynadechukr**

Azreal13 wrote:
Did you hear the whistling noise as the point he was making went sailing over your head?

"The fallacy that what we're currently paying for GW figure boxes is normal price, so these starter sets must be a bargain."

I only read the words written and detected sarcasm, a touch of bitterness, and no "point" was gleaned from this statement at all. Unless you are reading into it and seasoning to your own taste.

The point I got, if there was a point to even get, is that the OP feels too many in this hobby set GW prices as the benchmark for said product, and when a new starter comes out, many will equate the contents to individual boxes and say "Yippie! I am getting a deal!" Not considering many starters are static poses and sometimes cookie cutter 3 parters that snap together. I get that point.

**Manchu**

And again:

Manchu wrote:
Just a reminder that we need to stay on-topic. This is not the place to have a discussion about GW's prices generally. We don't even know the cost of this product yet, much less whether it will spawn a line of Catphract unit boxes, etc. Going by the AoS starter, we might speculate that it will be "cheaper" to buy the contents in the starter than in separate unit boxes. Whether those prices are low enough is a subject for another thread, which someone can feel free to start in the General Discussion board. Thanks.

**Nocturnus**

Azreal13 wrote:
shade1313 wrote:
Nocturnus wrote:
shade1313 wrote:
gorgon wrote:

Like I said, I'm hoping for a plastic Spartan.

To me, that doesn't seem like an outlandish possibility, given GW's love of bigger kits and the fact that both 30K and 40K players could use them in their armies.

My pipe dreams for future releases are the Spartan, and the Storm Eagle. Or an SE/Fire Raptor combo kit.

Lot of other stuff I could add, but those are the big bits of wishful thinking for me.

I wouldn't hold your breath, especially for a plastic Spartan. As was mentioned, FW just redid the track sections.

Yes, thank you, I know. Part of why I said "pipe dreams".

Then again, what sort of reaction would you have got if you'd come on here 5 years ago claiming there'd be rules and models for Primarchs and that GW proper would be making pastic Heresy compatible miniatures?

I wouldn't take anything for granted, after all, which one of the old guard was it that said that if we were to see the Heresy on the tabletop it would be a sign GW were circling the drain?

LOL fair enough.

**shade1313**

Azreal13 wrote:

Then again, what sort of reaction would you have got if you'd come on here 5 years ago claiming there'd be rules and models for Primarchs and that GW proper would be making pastic Heresy compatible miniatures?

I wouldn't take anything for granted, after all, which one of the old guard was it that said that if we were to see the Heresy on the tabletop it would be a sign GW were circling the drain?

Heck with that, 15 years ago I posted that I'd seen a poster in GW Cambridge which confirmed that the 3rd edition Space Wolves codex would include the Leman Russ Exterminator, and promptly got called a liar.

As for more kits going plastic, such as the Spartan and/or the flyers, I'd dearly love those, but don't expect them any time soon. I'd expect Deimos Rhinos and Preds first, for example. Which is a shame, given how much the Spartan, Storm Eagle, and Fire Raptor could benefit from being in plastic.

**Rayvon**

I think the Deimos chasis would be a prime candidate for plastic, I quite often see those side parts warping quite a bit.

**combat engineer**

I would assume that both HQs would be Praetors, as you need the Master of the Legion rule to use Rites of War (Unless it's a Delegatus.).

Curious to see what the cards actually do. Unit stat cards? Dice look snazzy.

**Thanatos73**

You would think a Storm Eagle would be a fairly easy kit to make in plastic as it's based off the Storm Raven design which is already plastic.

I'm glad to hear the Spartan was redisigned as I want to get one but have always hesitated because I didn't want to deal with resin track assemblies.

**Manchu**

Rayvon wrote:
I think the Deimos chasis would be a prime candidate for plastic

Yes please! Can't have legions without transports. If this box set is the beginning of a product line, I don't see how they could avoid making at least the Deimos.

**rowboatjellyfanxiii**

Either that or this is a gateway set.

**Nicky J**

I don't think its any coincidence that most of the big chapters (UM, DA, BA, etc) have had forgeworld upgrade packs released in the last few months, despite FW not having books that cover those legions yet...

slightly OT, but I hope we do get plastic deimos rhino, as I've always wanted to recreate this pic:

Spoiler:

**Jehan-reznor**

Nicky J wrote:
I don't think its any coincidence that most of the big chapters (UM, DA, BA, etc) have had forgeworld upgrade packs released in the last few months, despite FW not having books that cover those legions yet...

slightly OT, but I hope we do get plastic deimos rhino, as I've always wanted to recreate this pic:

Spoiler:

What are those mutants in those pics they don't exist!

Any clarification on what the real price will be?

**Alpharius**

Not yet - though I'm fairly confident that as soon as there is, it will be posted here.

**Theophony**

Jehan-reznor wrote:
Nicky J wrote:
I don't think its any coincidence that most of the big chapters (UM, DA, BA, etc) have had forgeworld upgrade packs released in the last few months, despite FW not having books that cover those legions yet...

slightly OT, but I hope we do get plastic deimos rhino, as I've always wanted to recreate this pic:

Spoiler:

What are those mutants in those pics they don't exist!

Any clarification on what the real price will be?

THis is 30K they exist. But they are being marinated right now,

**StarHunter25**

Anyone else feeling a bit annoyed by the situational irony in this? Games Workshop always touting how they aren't a gaming company but simply a mini manufacturer. Then they promptly begin spamming overpriced board games. How about you actually finish a codex cycle first gee dubs.

**Jehan-reznor**

From spikey bits

http://www.spikeybits.com/2015/10/breaking-unseen-horus-heresy-box-set-pics.html

Spoiler:

**Peregrine**

Nicky J wrote:
I don't think its any coincidence that most of the big chapters (UM, DA, BA, etc) have had forgeworld upgrade packs released in the last few months, despite FW not having books that cover those legions yet...

It's a coincidence. People have been asking about getting upgrade packs for a long time, and FW openly said a while ago that they were going to put out some basic upgrades for fans of the legions that haven't been featured in their own fluff book yet instead of making them wait years to start their 30k armies. And HH4 had some relics and campaign rules for the legions that hadn't had anything yet, while the next book is supposed to have at least brief legion rules for everyone as a temporary solution until they get their own books. So, I seriously doubt that this has much to do with the plastic 30k "game".

(Also, Ultramarines got a whole book recently, with full legion-specific rules/units/etc.)

**Eldarain**

Maybe it's just the picture but something seems off with the Contemptors proportions. It looks narrower below the waist and taller than the resin kit.

Could just be that I am building mine climbing over rubble and I don't have a ready standing straight up comparison I guess.

**Crimson Devil**

Probably just the angle of the picture.

**Talys**

@Jehan-reznor - Yay, some not totally distorted photos

You can see a bit more of the heads and space marine sprues than before, I think. The contemptor in that photo does look weird. The Cataphracti, though, look fantastic!

**Matt.Kingsley**

I really hope this thing isn't Limited Edition.

But deep down I know it will be, because GW is stupid.

At the very least it better not sell out before Christmas, but again I know it will 10 seconds after Preorders go live.

**Sidstyler**

Marines look kinda boring. Well, they always do, but I thought the models in this set were supposed to be your "standard" multi-part plastic kit? Everything in that photo looks like it's in the exact same pose, except with some dudes turning their heads a different way. Is that really the best they can do?

**Talys**

Sidstyler wrote:
Marines look kinda boring. Well, they always do, but I thought the models in this set were supposed to be your "standard" multi-part plastic kit? Everything in that photo looks like it's in the exact same pose, except with some dudes turning their heads a different way. Is that really the best they can do?

Not really -- they're mostly holding their guns a little differently, much the same as you'd seen in the configurations for Tactical squads. If you look at the sprues (the old leaks), you'll see that it's done the same way, with matching left/rights. It looks like they have all the standard poses -- at ready, looking down the barrel of the rifle, holding the gun at chest level, and then holding the gun at waist level; and then upper torso straight with lower and upper torso twisted. Plus the different leg configurations. Sort of your standard fare for Space Marines, except they all have bolters (which is the way it's supposed to be).

But anyways, Space Marines are a love-them-or-hate-them kinda thing. I've painted probably 300+ of the "basic power armor guys" (over 25 years, mind you), and every one is still unique to me.

Edit - oh yeah, they have the cool heads with the horizontal plume, like what you get in the Ultramarines upgrade kit, too! And of course, lots of Mk4 goodness. Mk4 parts really sparse in standard 40k kits.

**TheCustomLime**

Sidstyler wrote:
Marines look kinda boring. Well, they always do, but I thought the models in this set were supposed to be your "standard" multi-part plastic kit? Everything in that photo looks like it's in the exact same pose, except with some dudes turning their heads a different way. Is that really the best they can do?

Judging by the sprue pics I would chalk that up to lazy/bad assembling more than anything else.

**Ashiraya**

What Limey said. The Marines look fine.

The usual monopose characters make me sad though.