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I am really looking forward to seeing some better shots of the stuff, like the faction dice and etc.

As for now, I am keeping my eye on the weight so I dont get into the 2kg but am pretty happy with what is in there so far.

Will we be able to upgrade or add-on print copies of specific faction books?

I went in for a print core book and all PDFs but I might want to grab a print Nomad book also.

I am assuming so, but until they are unlocked and get put into the pledge calculator it looks like we will have to wait and see.

 -Loki- wrote:
The email the other day said they wouldn't be charging shipping. But then in the pledge manager area it says you can organise to pay for shipping.

Confused - is shipping a standard thing and Modiphius are just paying it for each backer, or did they change their mind?

They didn't change their mind. The email said they wouldn't be charging shipping *during the campaign*, but would be doing so afterwards. This is becoming a standard Kickstarter thing for 2 reasons. 1) It means that they can accurately charge you what the parcel will cost based on what you pick in the pledge manager, so you are not paying £30 postage for one figure and a dice and 2) It means that kickstarter doesn't try to take a large chunk of the postage and packing costs


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 Dentry wrote:
Will we be able to upgrade or add-on print copies of specific faction books?

I went in for a print core book and all PDFs but I might want to grab a print Nomad book also.

Yes you will. When it gets unlocked it will appear in the pledge calculator so you can see the costs and work it into your pledge amount.


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Also, the Shadow Affairs campaign is now unlocked thanks to the overnight excitement with more Bostria levels and some geomorphic tiles have been added as the £115k level.

The tiles are of a devastated Paradiso and are being created by Hennig Ludvigsen, who did the A!C tiles, Descent, Imperial Assault and Mansions of Madness; so we know they will be very pretty! IF this is anything like the A!C campaign, these will be in the pdf pledge and as an add-on.

 endtransmission wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
The email the other day said they wouldn't be charging shipping. But then in the pledge manager area it says you can organise to pay for shipping.

Confused - is shipping a standard thing and Modiphius are just paying it for each backer, or did they change their mind?

They didn't change their mind. The email said they wouldn't be charging shipping *during the campaign*, but would be doing so afterwards. This is becoming a standard Kickstarter thing for 2 reasons. 1) It means that they can accurately charge you what the parcel will cost based on what you pick in the pledge manager, so you are not paying £30 postage for one figure and a dice and 2) It means that kickstarter doesn't try to take a large chunk of the postage and packing costs

Fair enough, this will be my first kickstarter, so I'm not familiar with the intricacies of shipping and ever changing packages rewards cause.

Depending on whether the tiles use a grid, and how obtrusive it is, they might be good for use in the wargame, too.

-Loki- wrote:Does the PDF master count as having a core? Or do you need to spring for a printed core book?

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Question about character design:

A lot of noise has been made about the (admittedly fantastic) RPG miniatures. However, does character creation lend itself towards the current military units in the game?

If for example, I wanted to run a campaign where my players were a Hassassin team working their way through some areas of Bourak infiltrated by Nomad military forces trying to steal Silk, would the character creation tools cover what's available for Infinity, or would we have to put together 'best fits' of what's there?

The PDF Master does unlock the minis add ons, you don't need a printed core book. Yes absolutely you can build exactly what you want - I'd suggest getting the supplement for what you want as it will contain most of the forces specialist info, but even with the core book you'll be able to stat them up easily.

Alpharius wrote:Hell of a first day - congrats!

And so, I take this back:

 Alpharius wrote:
Don't know if we'll unlock all 8 (?) sourcebooks at that pace!

We should see all 8 and then some unlocked!

Yes lots to come yet :-0)

Dentry wrote:Will we be able to upgrade or add-on print copies of specific faction books?

I went in for a print core book and all PDFs but I might want to grab a print Nomad book also.

Yes as we unlock each one, just add the print cost (we update the Add Ons and send in an update) to include it in your pledge, or choose one of the ALL THE BOOKS pledges coming soon

Vain wrote:I am assuming so, but until they are unlocked and get put into the pledge calculator it looks like we will have to wait and see.

We'll get them added to the calculator today!

AndrewGPaul wrote:Depending on whether the tiles use a grid, and how obtrusive it is, they might be good for use in the wargame, too.

We're designing them so they have dual uses!

Apologies if this is answered in the Kickstarter page; what sort of background info will be in the core book and in the supplements? I'm really interested in the day-to-day details of Yu Jing (since that's the army I have for the wargame), and the sort of thing I'm after is the daily life of their citizens - architecture, government, culture, etc. Is that ort of thing likely to be in the core book, or should I look to the "nation" books (if that's the way you're organising things)?

Essentially, how much information will the core book and/or supplements give me about this scene? https://warpsignal.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/infinity___citizens_by_elpinoy.jpg
or what the civilians in the background of this picture will be thinking and how they'll react? http://orig02.deviantart.net/e1ba/f/2013/364/b/d/cb_infinity_haqqislamhassassin_lowresfinal_by_chesterocampo-d7042vl.jpg

Secondary to that would be details on the military - how many troops are there in a Celestial Guard, Zanshi or Zúyong squad, what sort of special weapons to they carry, are hackers, doctors, etc embedded at squad level or are they higher-level assets? How many squads to a platoon, platoons to a company, etc? What to the various military units do in peacetime (would civilians be used to seeing HI troops on city streets, for example?)

How come it says 21 days left in the thread title but 31 days left on Kickstarter? Is that just a typo in the title?

Does anyone who have any experience with the 2D20 system know if the damage location dice are useful?

I'm also kind of tempted by the faction dice, but I don't know what they'll look like.

I'm hoping they're like the dice in the USARF and Operation: Icestorm boxes.

 Daba wrote:
Does anyone who have any experience with the 2D20 system know if the damage location dice are useful?

I'm also kind of tempted by the faction dice, but I don't know what they'll look like.

No clue to the first one I'm afraid.

WRT the second, just a guess, but I'd be surprised if the dice deviate much from what's been released already (PanO, Nomad and Ariadna), that is faction coloured with a faction symbol in place of the 1.

It'd be nice to get a little more variety, like the sectorial symbols too.

It looks like the £130k goal has been stuck into the graphic now. It is a Paradiso gazetteer, covering Paradiso and the star system around it as well as mass space battle rules.

The social goals have also unlocked another one: 8 pages of an original adventure played by the CB team. This will be expanded with future social goals


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 Daba wrote:
Does anyone who have any experience with the 2D20 system know if the damage location dice are useful?

There is supposed to be a primer pdf going up in the next week or two that shows the system off. You could also look up some reviews of the Mutant Chronicles RPG 3rd Edition as this uses the same 2D20 mechanics, or ask on their forum: http://www.modiphius.com/forum.html#/

 ImAGeek wrote:
How come it says 21 days left in the thread title but 31 days left on Kickstarter? Is that just a typo in the title?

Yup - a typo.

Now fixed!

Sorry, I tried to fix it and the net panicked and died, only just fixed it up. Thanks Alph

Earlier on today in the comments Chris mentioned that some Dire Foes packs may be unlocked during the campaign as add-ons. He didn't say if these were existing or new ones though. I guess we will find out when we get there

£100k is now breached and the Nomads book is unlocked!

So at this point, if I want actual print books (rather than the PDFs) I'm better off going for the basic £20 or £40 'print book' levels (depending on what bonus add-ons I want) and then selecting the other books as add-ons?

And there will eventually be an 'all the books in print' pledge - which I'd love to get but I think it will be a bit too much for me right now.

 Pacific wrote:
So at this point, if I want actual print books (rather than the PDFs) I'm better off going for the basic £20 or £40 'print book' levels (depending on what bonus add-ons I want) and then selecting the other books as add-ons?

At this point, yes. If you only want PDFs of the books you buy, go for the cheaper level. If you want pdfs of everything as well as any print books you add on, then o for the higher.

The £100k has added 8 pages of additional character options to the Player book (and should also have unlocked an A!C adventure. The £140k level has been added to the image too. When we get up there, a free printed Player's book comes with every hard copy core rulebook. We are supposed to be getting a new, bigger, pledge level tonight. I'm not sure if it is the box set or the Master Print (all print books) at the moment, but either way it should give the campaign a nice boost.

I wish I'd gone for the master print level in the A!C campaign as the books are soooo pretty.

OK thanks Endtransmission, will go for the £40 for now (just to do my little bit! ) and see how it develops.

Must say I'm impressed by how quickly this has got up to this total. I know it will level off in the coming week but it's definitely a promising start.

AndrewGPaul wrote:Apologies if this is answered in the Kickstarter page; what sort of background info will be in the core book and in the supplements? I'm really interested in the day-to-day details of Yu Jing (since that's the army I have for the wargame), and the sort of thing I'm after is the daily life of their citizens - architecture, government, culture, etc. Is that ort of thing likely to be in the core book, or should I look to the "nation" books (if that's the way you're organising things)?

Essentially, how much information will the core book and/or supplements give me about this scene? https://warpsignal.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/infinity___citizens_by_elpinoy.jpg
or what the civilians in the background of this picture will be thinking and how they'll react? http://orig02.deviantart.net/e1ba/f/2013/364/b/d/cb_infinity_haqqislamhassassin_lowresfinal_by_chesterocampo-d7042vl.jpg

Secondary to that would be details on the military - how many troops are there in a Celestial Guard, Zanshi or Zúyong squad, what sort of special weapons to they carry, are hackers, doctors, etc embedded at squad level or are they higher-level assets? How many squads to a platoon, platoons to a company, etc? What to the various military units do in peacetime (would civilians be used to seeing HI troops on city streets, for example?)

Yes it's more cultural, secret organisations, planet info, plots etc. Not so much the military units that you already have lots of info on. The nation or Faction books massively expand on that along with dedicated character generation and new rules, planets and much more. It's not a military sourcebook though, the purpose of these books is to give you lots of storyline on the universe, and reveal stuff - ships, vehicles, planets, plots etc

Daba wrote:Does anyone who have any experience with the 2D20 system know if the damage location dice are useful?

I'm also kind of tempted by the faction dice, but I don't know what they'll look like.

We're hopefully showing off samples later tomorrow. You don't need hit location dice - the character sheets will have the d20 roll and there's optional rules to simplify and do without hit locations

AndrewGPaul wrote:I'm hoping they're like the dice in the USARF and Operation: Icestorm boxes.

They're different designs - by Q-Workshop who make excellent designer dice.

The "Get 'em All In Print" pledge is going to be £200+, isn't it?

We seem to be on 69 retweets (if I'm reading twitter right) so more community unlocks coming up soon I guess, 50 and 100 retweets are two of the goals

 Alpharius wrote:
The "Get 'em All In Print" pledge is going to be £200+, isn't it?

I would suspect significantly more at the rate we're going
Mutant Chronicles "all in" book pledge was £400 for 18 books, including the ltd edition core book (plus all the A!C books in pdf, a pdf art book and a Savage Worlds conversion guide for MC)

I also missed that as part of the £100k goal, the Player's guide and character sheet is going to be translated in to Spanish. Future goals will hopefully expand this out to the core rulebook as well.

Print copies of the players guide for all printed core book recipients. I like it. Still a bit to unlock that particular goal.

Any chance there are surprise miniatures in the works? Maybe a child VIP ( for the feels)?

 motyak wrote:
We seem to be on 69 retweets (if I'm reading twitter right) so more community unlocks coming up soon I guess, 50 and 100 retweets are two of the goals

If someone kept the title of this thread updated, I bet that would help!

Pacific wrote:So at this point, if I want actual print books (rather than the PDFs) I'm better off going for the basic £20 or £40 'print book' levels (depending on what bonus add-ons I want) and then selecting the other books as add-ons?

Alpharius wrote:The "Get 'em All In Print" pledge is going to be £200+, isn't it?

£300 - update coming ....

Nice! exactly what I wanted!

Bargain! The print level includes:

- Collectors edition core
-GM Guide
-Shadow Affairs campaign
-Paradiso Planet guide
-Nomad guide
-Ariadna guide
-PanO guide
-Aleph guide
-Yu Jing guide
-Haqq guide
-Tohaa guide
-Combined Army guide
-Technology of the Human Sphere
-Ships of the Human Sphere
-Tactical Armoured gears
-The O-12 files
-War Market Mercs sourcebook
-Acheron Cascade campaign
-Adventures in the Human Sphere collection
-Nebula of Mirrors campaign
-Hypercorps
-Player's Guide

*phew* That is a long list. There is a note that some of these may be combined, but there will be at least 112 pages *per title* listed above, so that is a minimum of ((112 x 21)+368) = 2720 pages of goodness in print.. plus all 6 models *and* all the pdfs. You will get all those, even if they are not unlocked during the campaign as they are going to be produced too. I think I can easily wave goodbye to The Others for that

I like the other new pledge level too.

Now for Faction Fanatics (tabletop Infinity Players) - you can now get the £18 FACTION FANATIC pledge which gets you a Printed Faction book of your choice (for example Nomad, or PanOceania) to fill you in on your favourite group, an RPG miniature of your choice plus the Player's Guide in PDF which is now going to include the conversion rules to take your RPG characters on to the tabletop! So create a hero with the Player's Guide, then convert them to a tabletop character to fight in your next game! In addition you will also be able to purchase extra Add On's of Miniatures for £6.50 each (along with any other Add-On's you want).

Is there going to be an "all in print" without the Collector's Edition in it?

Plus - a book just about T.A.G.s?

Yes!

I can see some of the 'tech' books getting combined though...but still, this is looking fantastic!