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Upside to superglueing them is that it actually holds much better (and sets quicker, too IME) on restic than it does on metal, and that annoying tendency of HIPS models to 'sag' or split or bend on the glue joins for many minutes after you've glued them doesn't occur with CA. I do prefer plastic glue on HIPS on balance, but honestly once you get used to it (and buy a pot or two of decent, high-viscosity CA! Can't stress this enough!) it's not that much more inconvenient, actually.

And for convenience, this works like a charm at bargain basement pricing:
http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__7174__HobbyKing_Super_Glue_CA_50g_1_7oz_Thick.html

I used plastic cement or whatever you call it on my 3rd edition dark eldar, and the empire and dudes I got back around 4/5/6th edition. That's it. Everything since has been super glue. Cheap dollar store super glue. It has some cons, sure, but I'm familiar with it and used to them.

One trick I tend to use with super glue is kind of an inverse pin with blue tack. Put a teeny dot of it on one of the join surfaces and make sure you're generous enough with the glue to compensate for the tack spreading out and what not. Not even necessarily enough blue tack to fully hold the pieces in place from gravity over time, you just need enough to do the holding chore for you from the inside for a few seconds so the CA (much easier than typing super glue ) can set up. Wider/bigger joins I usually go around the outside again with another layer later to help solidify things.

I think it's a slight step back in terms of strength, but it's a lot easier than holding fiddly little parts together over and over while they keep popping loose in your twitchy hands. Another kind of bonus, if one of those joins ever breaks, it's really easy to pop both ends of the join with superglue again and stick it right back together, using that blue tack again to hold it while it sets.

 Bolognesus wrote:
Upside to superglueing them is that it actually holds much better (and sets quicker, too IME) on restic than it does on metal, and that annoying tendency of HIPS models to 'sag' or split or bend on the glue joins for many minutes after you've glued them doesn't occur with CA. I do prefer plastic glue on HIPS on balance, but honestly once you get used to it (and buy a pot or two of decent, high-viscosity CA! Can't stress this enough!) it's not that much more inconvenient, actually.

And for convenience, this works like a charm at bargain basement pricing:
http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__7174__HobbyKing_Super_Glue_CA_50g_1_7oz_Thick.html

I've built hundreds of multipart miniatures, plastic and metal and I've never had issues supergluing them. Sometimes you do have to hold them a bit longer to make sure they set but I use locktite control gel and a small dab will usually attach an arm after maybe 10 seconds for a infantry sized model. Runny superglue might have those types of issues though but I tend to stay away from it.

EDIT:
I will say that it did seem like the restic "sucked up" the superglue and normally I have a split second to reposition with the gel glue on HiPs or metal.. this was not the case with the restic in the DZ figures. It seemed to set instantly.

Oooh, they said there will be a Martian list.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Oooh, they said there will be a Martian list.

Does that mean a list for the existing board game pieces or proper multi-part plastics?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Oooh, they said there will be a Martian list.

Ooooh, maybe I can shoehorn my Tau into Warpath after all.

 MLaw wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:
Upside to superglueing them is that it actually holds much better (and sets quicker, too IME) on restic than it does on metal, and that annoying tendency of HIPS models to 'sag' or split or bend on the glue joins for many minutes after you've glued them doesn't occur with CA. I do prefer plastic glue on HIPS on balance, but honestly once you get used to it (and buy a pot or two of decent, high-viscosity CA! Can't stress this enough!) it's not that much more inconvenient, actually.

And for convenience, this works like a charm at bargain basement pricing:
http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__7174__HobbyKing_Super_Glue_CA_50g_1_7oz_Thick.html

I've built hundreds of multipart miniatures, plastic and metal and I've never had issues supergluing them. Sometimes you do have to hold them a bit longer to make sure they set but I use locktite control gel and a small dab will usually attach an arm after maybe 10 seconds for a infantry sized model. Runny superglue might have those types of issues though but I tend to stay away from it.

EDIT:
I will say that it did seem like the restic "sucked up" the superglue and normally I have a split second to reposition with the gel glue on HiPs or metal.. this was not the case with the restic in the DZ figures. It seemed to set instantly.

Ah right, that loctite stuff is something entirely in its own class as far as setting times are concerned. Try a 'regular' superglue with restic, maybe? With normal high-viscosity CA I get plenty of time to adjust restic parts. It does set rather fast, but certainly not instantly.

I also use Loctite control gel, or ultra control if I have it, and screwed up my strider because the limbs hardened instantly into place before I could adjust the pose.

With restics and certain resins, the CA glue seems to bond instantly, but for Trollcast it takes minutes if I don't use an accelerator, even though Trollcast seems to be a type of restic. Bones minis take about five to thirty seconds to set with CA depending on the shape of the join and the surface area, which seems like the perfect amount of time to me.

Ahh, interesting stuff. It's gonna set in a few seconds or I get antsy and keep messing it up until I put it down and come back later. Once in a blue moon I can force myself to sit perfectly still and count to 60 or a hundred, but it's rare. I prefer my blue tack method, for all its pros and cons.

 MLaw wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Oooh, they said there will be a Martian list.

Does that mean a list for the existing board game pieces or proper multi-part plastics?

Will Mars Attacks get a conversion into the Warpath ruleset?

Stew commented
Yesterday, 07:17 PM
Yes. It won't be in the main rulebook, but at the very least we will put up a list for free online so you can play with your Martian armies

So yeah, more like stats for what already exists. I don't think they'd be able to so easily make anything new without clearing it with Topps first. Still want to see them run a second Mars Attacks kickstarter to fit in all that other stuff they never got to like the human mutant experiments and all that Jazz.

How many EBs are we all going to have to fight over?

I'm hoping none, but every Mantic campaign still has them. At least last time it was a measly 5 bucks difference.

Still, that 5 bucks can get me another sprue of guys...

They said a "limited number" of EB.

Make of that what you will.

This past deadzone Kickstarter I decided to only go in for 20-30~ bucks if I remember correctly. I hope this has more enticing things for me personally. What that is? I'll know it when I see it.

I however would love for their ORX's to be reworked in the style of the dreadball power armor orcs, clean and barebones tech/armor. So sick of the savage scrap armor orxs. I want some nice working tech versions. =/

Apparently it's not a full twilight kin style overhaul at the moment.

Just been told on the FB page tthat there will be no new Marauders.

Also there seems to be a distinct lack of Marauder items listed on the Mantic webshop, wonder if Mantic are thinking of dropping them from Warpath? )Sincerely hope not, but the signs do not look good.)

Just listened to the podcast on the Mantic blog, Marauders will be done later on but they wanted to concentrate on the races with current plastics to properly round them out.

Marauders may still be on the table if the funding goes mental, otherwise they will come down the line, perhaps in a mini-kick.

Ronnie did mention that if you currently have them, you will be able to play them, whether they are in the book or if they put out a "get you by" list online.

Surely, I mean absolutely SURELY, Marauders should be in the book. I mean leaving Marauders out would be worse than, well, anything!

Also on FB been assured now that Marauders are here to stay, but if they are here to stay then why would there even be a question of them not being in the book??????

Is there a placeholder page up yet that I can furiously F5?

its live

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1744629938/warpath-the-sci-fi-battle-game?ref=hero_thanks

Managed to see the page with 0 backers. By the time I'd pledged and gone back to the page, it was on 55!

I pledged and will likely pull it if I'm being honest but I figured just in case I'd grab an EB. We'll see how this shapes up.

TinHat wrote:
Surely, I mean absolutely SURELY, Marauders should be in the book. I mean leaving Marauders out would be worse than, well, anything!

Also on FB been assured now that Marauders are here to stay, but if they are here to stay then why would there even be a question of them not being in the book??????

If by the time of printing deadline they aren't happy with where the faction is, then they'll get the "Twilight Kin" treatment of an online PDF until the faction can be launched properly.

Well, sad to see they're going at it like usual instead of setting a high initial goal that would fund a meaningful amount of new kits right off the bat. Here, pledge for all this crap you already own and maaaybe if enough of you do that, we'll make something new!

I'm in as well just to see how it goes. Went ahead and grabbed an EB.

Thanks for the heads up, caught an eb before work. We'll see if they encourage me to hang in there but most likely.

Well, I already own everything in all 3 of the army deals, so unless they unlock new deals with new models I'll be dropping out on the last day.

I own (or will own) lots of the stuff in the Battlegroups, but pledged for them all anyway as we'll need more stuff to play big games of Warpath.

I'm very happy with it all so far!

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Well, I already own everything in all 3 of the army deals, so unless they unlock new deals with new models I'll be dropping out on the last day.

I'm with you here, it's kinda disappointing that there are no new models at all. I stocked up on alot of these plastic kits from the deadzone kickstarters already. I hope we plough through the stretch goals but there isn't a lot of candy to entice backers of previous campaigns.

I think the make up of the army deals is why there are still EBs left. I got one but there's nothing there I want after 2 Deadzone KS so I'm hoping Asterians will have a Battlegroup later otherwise it's down to Warfare and A La Carte the rest.

I hope that Enforcer mini isn't tied to getting an Enforcer battlegroup/ starter