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New stretchgoals for the Forge Fathers. I am a bit disappointed that they are going so far with the viking dwarfs in space theme. It is not very imaginative. The sculpt even has a winged helmet and metal umlauts in its name. I mean do englishspeakers even understand how silly a name like Bröno sounds?

I likee!

Yeah basically it's stretch goal padding rather than look for $25k for the VeerMyn creepers with nothing in between they split it and put the Steel Warriors extra sprue in at the $10k point they are already paid for from DZI so the actual cost to Mantic is quite low - same with the Pathfinders

How exclusive are Mantic KS exclusives? Are they really only ever available to KS backers during the campaign? Or do they add them to pledge managers for other campaigns later? Or do they just sell them to the public when it is convienent regardless of what they previously promised like Palladium and Prodos?

The odd one or 2 have ended up as part of the Mantic points scheme they have never sold them publicly or added them to later KS PMs to the best of my knowledge. Also in some cases it's the resin version that was exclusive and the same mini appears later in metal this happen with the DS Legendary heroes but for Warpath there only seems to be metal versions so the pose is exclusive they reserve the right to release an alternate pose version of the mini later they did this with the DZ Survivor mini.

What does Kickstarter Exclusive mean?

Here at Mantic we don't want to release figures through Kickstarter that will then penalise customers who miss out on the campaign. However, we do want to keep our Kickstarter exclusives a little bit special. Therefore, although our exclusive releases will never be sold at retail, they will be available later via the Mantic Points Scheme on our website, or offered as promotional figures at conventions that we attend.

In the case of the exclusive heroes available in the Warpath Kickstarter, it is these specific poses that are Kickstarter exclusive - when it comes to releasing the model at retail we will launch an alternately posed version of the character, with optional parts to make a generic hero of that type (Forward Observer/Forge Lord/etc).

I know it is only $5 but I hate seeing 'early bird'. Bleh.

 Ahtman wrote:
I know it is only $5 but I hate seeing 'early bird'. Bleh.

I agree, especially one that's limited by absolute numbers, instead of time limited.

It's a very "kickstarter" kickstarter, in that it's all the annoying aspects of current kickstarters.

My guess is the first week maybe will be them offering up variations of DZ stuff plus vehicles we've seen art for plus special characters. They'll probably start throwing out faction starters and boosters too at some point. I would guess whatever sold best out of the various KS will be saved for the middle sag to try to keep the momentum going.

 MLaw wrote:
My guess is the first week maybe will be them offering up variations of DZ stuff plus vehicles we've seen art for plus special characters. They'll probably start throwing out faction starters and boosters too at some point. I would guess whatever sold best out of the various KS will be saved for the middle sag to try to keep the momentum going.

I guessing we'll see the usual faction dice this wednesday, maybe they will save the scenery till the mid week sag since that will sell well. Plus we'll have the multi base movement tray for the mass battle rules. I'd also guess more suppression markers.

I hope they have the plague beast from dzi as an addon, I missed picking up on of those.

I wonder what that dropship will be at retail. $35 seems reasonable, although higher than ideal considering its size, which means the KS price won't save me any money over waiting for Miniature Market. $40 seems a bit high, which might make me view it more harshly and choose not to buy it...

Either way, $30 for a KS campaign add on just seems a bit bold. I wonder if they will reduce the price or double up the kits like they did for the enforcer jetbikes in the last DZ campaign.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I wonder what that dropship will be at retail. $35 seems reasonable, although higher than ideal considering its size, which means the KS price won't save me any money over waiting for Miniature Market. $40 seems a bit high, which might make me view it more harshly and choose not to buy it...

Either way, $30 for a KS campaign add on just seems a bit bold. I wonder if they will reduce the price or double up the kits like they did for the enforcer jetbikes in the last DZ campaign.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a three for $75 addon box to come as one of the battalion choices, same for the ff tanks.

I like the kickstarter so far. Nice smooth additions that make sense.
Not sure what to get yet. I do have enough Raging Heroes ladies to stand in as Enforcers.. but .. you knoooooww... we all need more.

3 for $75 is a really tough sell for me. Maybe if they do a mix-and-match set, so I could buy two dropships and a tank that would be more attractive. ($25 for a bearded tank seems high when I can get one at the club for the cost of a daiquiri from Robogear for $6.) Of course, 2 dropships for $30 would be the kind of amazeballs can't-miss deal that would get people talking. Just pointing that out should any Mantic employees be reading this.

At least they aren't pulling a Reaper and increasing the price when an item proves popular.

I'm a bit worried that the FF tanks are going to run $30 each via kickstarter which is a bit of a non-starter for me. Since that means they'll be close to retailing for more than a GW Rhino/Razorback.

Especially considering this is for 1-year out.

Was looking to do a force of FF as I think the plastics look stunning, but the tank concept art is simply awful!!!

I have to agree on the $30 vehicle option. They did the same thing with the jetbikes on DZ:I and when they caught public backlash they opened it up to a twofer. Considering the faceship is something I could easily replace with a GotG toy or similarly priced Puppetswar flyer, I can't get on board. Adding the fact that I have my Titanforge dropship already.. eh..

The FF tank is another one.. I think the design is alright (a bit on the nose) but again, it's in the price range I would expect from retail. That said, Mantic "has" been raising their prices. A lot of their stuff has made a drastic shift from "budget alternative" to "overpriced other guys". I hate to be so blunt about it but that's where it's at IMO.

They have confirmed $75 vehicle bundle deals are coming, and that there will be something special about them, so there's savings to be had.

 DaveC wrote:
The odd one or 2 have ended up as part of the Mantic points scheme they have never sold them publicly or added them to later KS PMs to the best of my knowledge. Also in some cases it's the resin version that was exclusive and the same mini appears later in metal this happen with the DS Legendary heroes but for Warpath there only seems to be metal versions so the pose is exclusive they reserve the right to release an alternate pose version of the mini later they did this with the DZ Survivor mini.

What does Kickstarter Exclusive mean?

Here at Mantic we don't want to release figures through Kickstarter that will then penalise customers who miss out on the campaign. However, we do want to keep our Kickstarter exclusives a little bit special. Therefore, although our exclusive releases will never be sold at retail, they will be available later via the Mantic Points Scheme on our website, or offered as promotional figures at conventions that we attend.

In the case of the exclusive heroes available in the Warpath Kickstarter, it is these specific poses that are Kickstarter exclusive - when it comes to releasing the model at retail we will launch an alternately posed version of the character, with optional parts to make a generic hero of that type (Forward Observer/Forge Lord/etc).

Thanks for the clarification.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The next SG is metal upgrade bits for plastic minis... yea.

Mantic really should stop doing these metal, plastic hybrids. At the very worst, at least use resin for the upgrades pack, since it has pretty much the same density as plastic, unlike metal which is way heavier and destabilise the miniature

 Hulksmash wrote:
I'm a bit worried that the FF tanks are going to run $30 each via kickstarter which is a bit of a non-starter for me. Since that means they'll be close to retailing for more than a GW Rhino/Razorback.

I'm a bit lost on the scale I think, from the illustrations, and the guy next to it, I thought the tank was getting on for landraider sized, and the flyer thing was valkyrie sized. Are they smaller than that?

I've built hundreds of combined models and ignoring the VERY FEW bad ones, it has never been a problem.
Yes, you need to pin them, but otherwise it is a cheap yet effective way to increase your model range.

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Or $30 each.

Ouch....The kickstarter price on a transport is basically 25% off a GW vehicle of the same cost. Which makes me wonder what these are going to retail for.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Ouch....The kickstarter price on a transport is basically 25% off a GW vehicle of the same cost. Which makes me wonder what these are going to retail for.

Well, keep in mind that Mantic discounts are much easier to get than GW discounts once they hit retail. I forsee quite a few of these selling once that happens.

Depends. If they retail for $40 (which they should since you'd expect at least a 25% discount on the actual kickstart item) then I don't see them moving massive numbers. If they sell them at $35 or so then they again undercut their Kickstarters with standard pricing.

And discounts deeper than 20-25% are harder to come by now that MM isn't over buying and purging with regularity

I get the impression that the forgefather vehicles are much bigger than a Rhino, in which case the comparison doesn't make much sense. The vehicle is 60% off of the price GW charges for a landraider, which may be a better comparison.

 MLaw wrote:

The FF tank is another one.. I think the design is alright (a bit on the nose) but again, it's in the price range I would expect from retail. That said, Mantic "has" been raising their prices. A lot of their stuff has made a drastic shift from "budget alternative" to "overpriced other guys". I hate to be so blunt about it but that's where it's at IMO.

I've noticed their prices going up, too. The metals and restics always seemed to be priced higher than I would appraise them (although I admit to being a cheap bastard), but the plastics went nuts when the Peacekeepers were going for something like $4 per mini. I get that they wanted to promote the big-savings box sets, and that those were more profitable for Mantic, but they just don't have many impulse-buy kits to draw in new customers at retail. The pledge managers, on the other hand, have had 20 for $20, or even 20 for $15, deals that have been very competitive, so long as you can meet the pledge manager window, buy items unseen, and can wait a year for them to arrive.

I haven't really thought about buying any Mantic products at retail since I saw the huge price hike on the Mars Attacks Giant Bugs. Well, I'll probably get some of their more-than-famous goblins just to try them out.

Sorry if this has been answered, but are orx still around?

I have the old "Fate of the Forge Star" (?) Warpath Starter Set, and like the orc sculpts quite a bit!

I got it on clearance from FRPGames a few years back, so if anyone knows where I can get orx at a deep discount, I'd appreciate it!

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Or $30 each.

if you compare the current Hailstrum cannons to the turret you may get an idea of size.

decker_cky wrote:
I get the impression that the forgefather vehicles are much bigger than a Rhino, in which case the comparison doesn't make much sense. The vehicle is 60% off of the price GW charges for a landraider, which may be a better comparison.

Considering the picture presented is a current FF steel warrior they are comparable to a Rhino. 3 models wide and 4 models deep is basically a rhino. And it looks about as tall on the average of a rhino. But we'll see.