Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge

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**Naw**

CrashGordon94 wrote:
Naw wrote:
My vote goes to 6x Gabriel Seth. If he can't do it, then nobody can!

Wouldn't he be Unique due to being a Special Character?

You mean I can't field 6 at the same time???

I'm also pretty sure those big stompy robots can do anything he can't do.

Our Gabe doesn't go nucular when he dies. He's got extra safety built in right there!

**CrashGordon94**

Naw wrote:
You mean I can't field 6 at the same time???

...Go look up the Unique USR in the BRB.

Naw wrote:
Our Gabe doesn't go nucular when he dies. He's got extra safety built in right there!

You realize that would could be a boon, since it would hurt something unfriendly they're close to?
Like say, the Tau Titan they're trying to melee!

**ORicK**

My vote goes to the genestealers infiltrating around it.
Just because it is the most beautifull solution...

**Selym**

ORicK wrote:
My vote goes to the genestealers infiltrating around it.
Just because it is the most beautifull solution...

My vote.goes to the 300 points of cannon fodder preventing that. And stomp...

**GoliothOnline**

This thing still looks slowed... And that base is about as fitting as religion in a political debate.

**Furyou Miko**

Yoyoyo wrote:
How about 11 Penitent Engines, all in separate squadrons?

Die bubblewrap die!

That could be amusing, but since standard Tau guns can glance them to death, unlikely to be effective.

**Yoyoyo**

Furyou Miko wrote:
That could be amusing, but since standard Tau guns can glance them to death, unlikely to be effective.

I was hoping he brought Kroot!

**DarthSpader**

Ferros wrote:
DarthSpader wrote:
I notice your countering a lot of "drop in and shoot" style approaches but have yet to say anything regarding the revenant. It's a valid counter. LOW vrs LOW.

one on one - your tau "supremacy" armor is going to learn real quick what REAL supremacy is.

My revenant has taken down warhounds, stompas, bio Titans, baneblades all in single turns. It's even managed to take out a reaver titan (took 3 turns, had some flier support and it was pretty bashed up itself, but in the end the rev "limped" off field while the reaver was a smoldering crater.) he's also wracked up more MC and General kills then I care to count, including multiple wraith knights. (Once he tallied 3 in one game)

I have zero concern this new tau suit will provide anything more then a mild annoyance and another tick on the scorecard for the rev. (Wich is converted to dark eldar standards)

Bragging about a titan which is universally declared the most overpowered Titan in the game for a long while now and how it's a counter seems.. at best, silly, and at worst, moronic.

"WHO CARES ABOUT THE SECOND MOST RIDICULOUS UNIT WHEN I HAVE THE FIRST AND IT'S SUPER AMAZING GUYS."

You asked for a counter to the supremacy armor. And posts offering said counter have been met with "nah your wrong, supremacy armor is bestest" - now when offers up an actual legit counter your argument is "oh well yea but it's the most cheesy broken unit in the game" followed by personal attacks.

The question presented was not what's cheesiest, rather what can beat it. Since I've provided the answer and you have nothing to respond with aside from mockery and insults - that leads me to determine this thread is nothing but troll bait, and given the personal attacks violate a core dakka rule - I'm done with this thread and request it should be locked.

**Selym**

For a better counter than the wraithknight, just add invisibility, and some form of shooting buff

**effreem**

Shadowseer with mask of -LD in squad with DE char with WWP and armor of -LD. WWP within 6 inches and Mirror of Minds it to death (at -5LD he cant win vs shadowseers LD10).

Fog of Dreams also neuters it by making it snapshot.

**Desubot**

effreem wrote:
Shadowseer with mask of -LD in squad with DE char with WWP and armor of -LD. WWP within 6 inches and Mirror of Minds it to death (at -5LD he cant win vs shadowseers LD10).

Fog of Dreams also neuters it by making it snapshot.

prepare for imminent intercept.

**greyknight12**

For pure GK, 3 Dreadknights with teleporters, swords and 1 gun of choice is roughly 600 pts.

On the charge: 10 hits, plus 2 more for mastercrafted. 12 hits, 8 wounds, 5.33 unsaved. Force turns that into an average of 10.67 wounds at I4. If he doesn't die, he won't be able kill all the dreadknights due to their base size.

Or, 6 ML3 Librarians fishing for vortex of doom, and hoping something sticks...

**Naw**

CrashGordon94 wrote:
Naw wrote:
You mean I can't field 6 at the same time???

...Go look up the Unique USR in the BRB.

I clearly need to work on my jokes.

Naw wrote:
Our Gabe doesn't go nucular when he dies. He's got extra safety built in right there!

You realize that would could be a boon, since it would hurt something unfriendly they're close to?
Like say, the Tau Titan they're trying to melee!

Sorry, Gabriel Seth must be the most useless character in the universe nowadays, being a Lord of War.

Edit: Quoting with phone can be a pain.

**stripeydave**

Lolukas the trickster?

**Yoyoyo**

Naw wrote:
I clearly need to work on my jokes.

I didn't think you were that subtle

**Lobokai**

stripeydave wrote:
Lolukas the trickster?

Is his "I go, you go" backdraft rule still a thing in 7th?

**SicSemperTyrannis**

No problem. Let me just use my overlords mindshack-.... oh wait......

**Djbillson**

I would go with three hemlock fighters. Takes out the main weapon from shooting, going after fear I think to drop the Ld and Physic Shriek. Also not the greatest but the D blast would also slowly take wounds off.

If that does not work then you have a great defense and the mobility to always be targeting it.

**Smitty**

Let's see, legal list? No Allies? No Unbound?

*plays with calculator*

Hmmm...by my calculations, a legal army that could possibly get this done would be...

6 vindicare assassins using hellfire rounds over the course of a couple of rounds of shooting. Yes, that should do it.

Survivability of the vindicares will be tricky though, because they only have a 4+ invuln and the KX139 has ignores cover weapons and D weapons. That being said, if the Tau player wiffs like a champ, those vindicares will eat him alive.

**locarno24**

Marker Light specifically say they can be used to modify snap shots

Yes, but they don't let you fire something which lacks the option to snap fire, like the KX-139's triple mass driver. Knock that thing out of the equation and its firepower is a lot less scary.

To be honest, anything decent reaching combat is going to handle it quite roughly. Even a few ironclads - who can take the inevitable web of overwatch and can heavy flamer their way through a skirmish screen.

For that matter, I'd give even the much lambasted Lord Of Skulls decent odds. It's unlikely to take it down in one turn of shooting barring a 'deathblow' hit (which you can never allow for when superheavies face off) - maybe two, if it has a melta cascade arm and gets lucky with explodes - and it can steamroller through any defensive line of kroot or fire warriors.

**Igenstilch**

Chaos Daemons
HQ -Herald - which ever flavor
Troop - Nurglings x2
LoW - Zarakynel

90+ points left over for what ever
If Zara gets into melee its all over.

**Gunnvulcan**

gmaleron wrote:
Demon Prince flying circus spam is one option because it would totally negate the D weapon since its a template and cannot target flying units. Also psychic powers, as far as I am aware Gargantuan Creatures are not immune to psychic powers so you could do some horrible damage to it. Also it is somewhat unfair to compare an older codex for a unit that is looking more and more like it was intended for the new book.

How is it unfair? Both codices are going to be legal simultaneously, so you could potentially see a csm player up against one of these super-suits.

I feel like that, unless you design a large chunk of your army to fighting superheavies these days, you are going to lose. But, if you have some expensive super-heavy hunter and your opponent doesnt have one, you are vastly outnumbered.

Kinda screwed either way.

**Selym**

Gunnvulcan wrote:

Kinda screwed either way.

Just As Planned.

GW's been trying to cover the balance issues by making it impossible to optimize a list. They failed, ofc, but at least in the average pickup game, nobody can account for everything.

**CrashGordon94**

I'm guessing that might be part of why some aren't twigging on the balance issues as much as others.

**hiveof_chimera**

I nominate

**Selym**

hiveof_chimera wrote:
I nominate

Spoiler:

**raverrn**

An Inquisitorial Henchmen squad with two acolytes and a sanctioned psyker is 18 points and knows Psychic Scream.

I'll take those odds.

**CrashGordon94**

raverrn wrote:
An Inquisitorial Henchmen squad with two acolytes and a sanctioned psyker is 18 points and knows Psychic Scream.

I'll take those odds.

Presumably lots and lots and lots of times?
That WOULD add up pretty quick with enough of those...

**Oberron**

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